Bullpup stock for FAL? Is there any .308 Bullpup?

thaddeus · March 01, 2003, 21:25

Does anyone make a bullpup stock for the FAL? If not, why not?

Is there any such thing as any .308 Bullpup?

larphred · March 01, 2003, 23:46

I know of a couple of local guys here in Utah who are working on one. I think they want to keep it undercover until they can get a prototype. If I find anything out once R&D has finished I'll post.

thaddeus · March 02, 2003, 00:56

Please let me know about it. I will buy and test a beta version if they want and give them a feedback review.

thaddeus2@cox.net

chuck1 · March 02, 2003, 01:43

One company did make a bullpup M14. If I remember right someone on this board bought one. Can't remember who but a search might bring it up.

panchop · March 02, 2003, 01:59

AWC G3, was I who had it. traded it of for a NIB Blue label Gov carbine, a NIB PWA carbine, and a NIB SKS M. handy little thing but i don't like bullpups.

tunashark · March 02, 2003, 02:36

I just want an FN F2000. Finally a bullpup for southpaws or those that are inferior with no change needed.
It would seem obvious that a FAL bullpup would have to be para based and involve lots of barrel clamping for the moved trigger mechanism. I remain skeptical.

0007 · March 02, 2003, 06:05

Chuck1 -That was me. About 15 years ago a company out in AZ called AWACS built several versions of bullpupped M-14's on spec for DOD as a carry-weapon for the spotter on a sniper team. Idea was commanallity of ammo, etc. It didn't fly, but they sold a few on the civilian side to recoup costs maybe(?). I seem to recall total build was somewhat <100. Total out the door was around $2,000 if you sent them your M1A. The only major modification to the parts was on the operating rod, the cocking knob was shifted backward. Pretty neat to have a full-size M1A that less then 33" overall. By the way a lot of the people at AWACS all went on to bigger and better things. Bullpupped FALs would be really neat. And probably easier to do then on the M-14/1A series.

0007 · March 02, 2003, 06:07

Damn - panchop I thought I was the only one...

panchop · March 02, 2003, 09:21

when yopu consideer how many they made, then how many members we have. it is kinda unusual. i wasn'ty to attached to mine though. do you still have yours?

0007 · March 03, 2003, 01:06

Yeah, still have it. Had to get a little rework done the first time I shot it. Wouldn't chamber the 2nd round. Whatever was wrong was repaired by AWACS and I think I've probably put all of 50 rounds out of it since then... Thinking about having it done in one of the Teflon finishes just to make it bug proof. What kind of sighting system did you have on yours? I've put a couple of different(low power) scopes on mine, but I'm really starting to lean toward some sort of reflex/optic what with the forward mount on the barrel.

FN74 · March 03, 2003, 06:37

Movie of the British Prototype Bullpup .280 FAL in action.... Thanks to Anders!

http://www.britishpathe.com/downloa...ame=1469_29.WMV

Sylvan · March 03, 2003, 06:56

Something like this...

Israeli Bullpup M-14 sniper config.

CDReid · March 03, 2003, 06:59

Tuna im with you id Love an FN2000. I believe theyre 9mm though? *shiver*A .308 g11 or fn2000 would be a dream

FN74 · March 03, 2003, 13:15

once the shop is in order I plan on buying a SAIGA .308 AK and converting it into a bullpup, and to take FAL mags.

We'll see how it turns out...

VoceNoctum · March 05, 2003, 11:32

Quote:

Originally posted by CDReid
Tuna im with you id Love an FN2000. I believe theyre 9mm though? *shiver*A .308 g11 or fn2000 would be a dream

The 2000 is a 223.
I was playing with one at SHOT, and played with the damn thing looking for the ejection port before finally breaking down and asking

Too cool of a gun though, I wish they'd build a SA version over here.

**Story** · September 24, 2010, 23:22

Bullpup Australian L1A1

http://www.nvtech.com.au/index-pastProjects.html

ftierson · September 25, 2010, 01:14

Assuming that you can really find one, there's always the Kel-Tec RFB...

I know that I'm waiting on one...

Forrest

Hellion Productions · September 25, 2010, 02:04

Arise, zombie thread, and do thy master's bidding!

A pre-war thread. I was still in my 20s!

ETA: The Ace Stock owner showed me a metric FAL bullpup prototype back in 2004 or 2005 at SHOT. Very cool. I never saw anything about it again, though.

Best,
JBR

Cmdr. Gravez0r · September 25, 2010, 10:09

The Kel-Tec RFB is the only Production 308 bullpup. Uses FAL mags.

Ironhandjohn · September 25, 2010, 23:26

Wow, 7 years...

Somebody's been doing some grave-digging, haven't they?

ftierson · September 26, 2010, 00:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Cmdr. Gravez0r
The Kel-Tec RFB is the only Production 308 bullpup. Uses FAL mags.

I'm not quite sure that I'd call it a production rifle yet, if you know what I mean...

Forrest

KBAR04 · September 26, 2010, 12:48

Quote:

Originally posted by tunashark
I just want an FN F2000. Finally a bullpup for southpaws or those that are inferior with no change needed.
It would seem obvious that a FAL bullpup would have to be para based and involve lots of barrel clamping for the moved trigger mechanism. I remain skeptical.

The Steyr AUG can also be switched to left hand fire but you have to have a left handed bolt. The FAMAS can be switched to left hand fire in the field. I like 223 bullpups and would be open to try a 7.62 version. Right now looks like the Kel Tec is the only offering (maybe).

raexcct2 · October 03, 2010, 12:48

The bullpup M14 was the AWC G2. I had one and foolishly traded it for two new in box HK 630's with scope mounts.

White · September 15, 2011, 17:24

Seriously though,
How would a guy go about moving the fire control group forward?

A Bullpup FAL would be awesome.

March 01, 2003, 21:25	#1
thaddeus Registered FALaholic #: 8056 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 24	Bullpup stock for FAL? Is there any .308 Bullpup? Does anyone make a bullpup stock for the FAL? If not, why not? Is there any such thing as any .308 Bullpup?

March 01, 2003, 23:46	#2
larphred Registered FALaholic #: 1555 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Sandy, Ut. Posts: 3,098	I know of a couple of local guys here in Utah who are working on one. I think they want to keep it undercover until they can get a prototype. If I find anything out once R&D has finished I'll post. __________________ Michael O'Sullivan was my great friend. But I don't ever remember telling him that. The words that are spoken at a funeral are spoken too late for the man who is dead. What a wonderful thing it would be to visit your own funeral. To sit at the front and hear what was said, maybe say a few things yourself. Michael and I grew old together. But at times, when we laughed, we grew young. If he was here now, if he could hear what I say, I'd congratulate him on being a great man, and thank him for being a friend. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --the forty-four spoke and it sent lead and smoke, and seventeen inches of flame. ----Marty Robbins

March 02, 2003, 02:36	#6
tunashark Registered FALaholic #: 624 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Greenland or Florida, depending on the month Posts: 603	I just want an FN F2000. Finally a bullpup for southpaws or those that are inferior with no change needed. It would seem obvious that a FAL bullpup would have to be para based and involve lots of barrel clamping for the moved trigger mechanism. I remain skeptical. __________________ "Well, in the first place an armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. ... But gunfighting has a strong biological use. We do not have enough things that kill off the weak and the stupid these days. But to stay alive as an armed citizen a man has to be either quick with his wits or with his hands, preferably both. It's a good thing." Robert Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon, 1948 WTB: anything from Hawes Firearms Co. http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member1115.png

March 02, 2003, 06:05	#7
0007 Registered FALaholic #: 8922 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: back in the States for a while Posts: 1,211	bullpups Chuck1 -That was me. About 15 years ago a company out in AZ called AWACS built several versions of bullpupped M-14's on spec for DOD as a carry-weapon for the spotter on a sniper team. Idea was commanallity of ammo, etc. It didn't fly, but they sold a few on the civilian side to recoup costs maybe(?). I seem to recall total build was somewhat <100. Total out the door was around $2,000 if you sent them your M1A. The only major modification to the parts was on the operating rod, the cocking knob was shifted backward. Pretty neat to have a full-size M1A that less then 33" overall. By the way a lot of the people at AWACS all went on to bigger and better things. Bullpupped FALs would be really neat. And probably easier to do then on the M-14/1A series. __________________ Oderint dum Metuant - Back in the USA again

March 02, 2003, 06:07	#8
0007 Registered FALaholic #: 8922 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: back in the States for a while Posts: 1,211	Damn - panchop I thought I was the only one... __________________ Oderint dum Metuant - Back in the USA again

March 02, 2003, 00:56	#3
thaddeus Registered FALaholic #: 8056 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 24	Please let me know about it. I will buy and test a beta version if they want and give them a feedback review. thaddeus2@cox.net

March 02, 2003, 01:43	#4
chuck1 Registered FALaholic #: 303 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: AZ/kali Posts: 290	One company did make a bullpup M14. If I remember right someone on this board bought one. Can't remember who but a search might bring it up.

March 02, 2003, 01:59	#5
panchop Registered FALaholic #: 1751 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: phx Posts: 1,442	AWC G3, was I who had it. traded it of for a NIB Blue label Gov carbine, a NIB PWA carbine, and a NIB SKS M. handy little thing but i don't like bullpups.

March 02, 2003, 09:21	#9
panchop Registered FALaholic #: 1751 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: phx Posts: 1,442	when yopu consideer how many they made, then how many members we have. it is kinda unusual. i wasn'ty to attached to mine though. do you still have yours?

March 03, 2003, 01:06	#10
0007 Registered FALaholic #: 8922 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: back in the States for a while Posts: 1,211	AWACS Yeah, still have it. Had to get a little rework done the first time I shot it. Wouldn't chamber the 2nd round. Whatever was wrong was repaired by AWACS and I think I've probably put all of 50 rounds out of it since then... Thinking about having it done in one of the Teflon finishes just to make it bug proof. What kind of sighting system did you have on yours? I've put a couple of different(low power) scopes on mine, but I'm really starting to lean toward some sort of reflex/optic what with the forward mount on the barrel. __________________ Oderint dum Metuant - Back in the USA again

March 03, 2003, 06:37	#11
FN74 Registered FALaholic #: 220 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Metro New Orleans, LA Posts: 3,070	Movie of the British Prototype Bullpup .280 FAL in action.... Thanks to Anders! http://www.britishpathe.com/downloa...ame=1469_29.WMV __________________ DEO VINDICE! YOU! - OUT OF THE GENE POOL!!! DABTL said on 7/15/06, "I rather think it is a good idea to shut down those machine gun kits such as the MG42 from coming into this country. I cannot imagine a good use to which they might be put. I can think of many ways they could be a problem" "An MG42 has an enormous rate of fire and in the wrong hands can and will do an enormous amount of damage, some day. If not bringing in any more of those will put that day off it will be worth it."

March 03, 2003, 06:56	#12
Sylvan Registered FALaholic #: 9397 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 121	Something like this... Israeli Bullpup M-14 sniper config.

March 03, 2003, 06:59	#13
CDReid Registered FALaholic #: 8095 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 232	Tuna im with you id Love an FN2000. I believe theyre 9mm though? shiverA .308 g11 or fn2000 would be a dream

March 03, 2003, 13:15	#14
FN74 Registered FALaholic #: 220 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Metro New Orleans, LA Posts: 3,070	once the shop is in order I plan on buying a SAIGA .308 AK and converting it into a bullpup, and to take FAL mags. We'll see how it turns out... __________________ DEO VINDICE! YOU! - OUT OF THE GENE POOL!!! DABTL said on 7/15/06, "I rather think it is a good idea to shut down those machine gun kits such as the MG42 from coming into this country. I cannot imagine a good use to which they might be put. I can think of many ways they could be a problem" "An MG42 has an enormous rate of fire and in the wrong hands can and will do an enormous amount of damage, some day. If not bringing in any more of those will put that day off it will be worth it."

September 24, 2010, 23:22	#16
Story Old Fart Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 7638 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Right here Posts: 5,205	Bullpup Australian L1A1 http://www.nvtech.com.au/index-pastProjects.html __________________ The wartime diary of Kriegsmarine Oberleutnant z.S. Max von Zatorski. https://www.facebook.com/SeeklarDiaries

September 25, 2010, 01:14	#17
ftierson Registered FALaholic #: 13827 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 11,040	Assuming that you can really find one, there's always the Kel-Tec RFB... I know that I'm waiting on one... Forrest

September 25, 2010, 02:04	#18
Hellion Productions Registered FALaholic #: 4517 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Pahrump, NV Posts: 1,074	Arise, zombie thread, and do thy master's bidding! A pre-war thread. I was still in my 20s! ETA: The Ace Stock owner showed me a metric FAL bullpup prototype back in 2004 or 2005 at SHOT. Very cool. I never saw anything about it again, though. Best, JBR __________________ www.johnbearross.com I'm not "that" John Ross...I'm "this" John Ross... Dan Fong Lives...

September 25, 2010, 10:09	#19
Cmdr. Gravez0r Registered FALaholic #: 33649 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SC Posts: 268	The Kel-Tec RFB is the only Production 308 bullpup. Uses FAL mags. __________________ Liberty is not the gift of the State, and its protection cannot be outsourced completely to the Government.

September 25, 2010, 23:26	#20
Ironhandjohn Registered FALaholic #: 11561 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: 1187 Hundertwasser Posts: 2,351	Wow, 7 years... Somebody's been doing some grave-digging, haven't they?

October 03, 2010, 12:48	#23
raexcct2 Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2784 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UTAH Posts: 1,537	The bullpup M14 was the AWC G2. I had one and foolishly traded it for two new in box HK 630's with scope mounts. __________________

September 15, 2011, 17:24	#24
White Registered FALaholic #: 62134 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 155	Trigger placement Seriously though, How would a guy go about moving the fire control group forward? A Bullpup FAL would be awesome.

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