Broke My Gun

FALx2 · February 02, 2004, 19:46

Oh, no! I broke my MAC-10! I noticed it didn't fire on semi-auto the other day when I went to the range with my Mac and my new Gemtech Viper-9. When I got home I figured it had to do with the extra fouling, but when I took it apart, I found that the selector switch broke clean in half, inside the sear!! Snapped the shaft right in half, right in the middle of the sear. Gun still worked on full auto, though. Lucky I had spares on hand.

I just filled out my Form 1 to make a full auto FAL, supposedly legal here in the 9th district court jurisdiction. Now, for CLEO signoff!

GUNNER0311 · February 02, 2004, 19:59

Great metalurgy on that part.....

FAL guy · February 02, 2004, 20:12

Quote:

Originally posted by FALx2
I just filled out my Form 1 to make a full auto FAL, supposedly legal here in the 9th district court jurisdiction. Now, for CLEO signoff!

It hasn't been legal for an individual to make a machine gun since 1986, it doesn't matter what court jurisdiction you are in. If you think ATF will approve it though, give it a try.

Now, if you are a class II manufacturer making a post dealer sample, that is a different story.

garandguy10 · February 02, 2004, 20:37

i think that the 9th circuit court of appeals has recently ruled that individuals can manufacture"homemade "machine guns without registering them or paying any taxes.the individuals must however not be manufacturing for sale or transfer and have been convicted of a felony to qualify

i kid you not.

instr8 · February 02, 2004, 21:38

Hmmm! My ugly one is still working.

Court in Fl · February 02, 2004, 22:19

The selector breaking is a common problem.
I have broke 2 over the years.
In semi auto the sear pivots on the rod and trips the little hook on the trigger.

Court in Fl.

FAL guy · February 03, 2004, 07:32

Quote:

Originally posted by garandguy10
i think that the 9th circuit court of appeals has recently ruled that individuals can manufacture"homemade "machine guns without registering them or paying any taxes.the individuals must however not be manufacturing for sale or transfer and have been convicted of a felony to qualify i kid you not.

Yeah...I heard all about that.........

You first.

FALx2 · February 03, 2004, 08:04

Dropped off papers for CLEO signoff and got my photos today...Sherrif is good about signing. We'll know if the BATFE guys approve it in about 3 months or so.

splattermatic · February 03, 2004, 09:25

keep us updated on how it goes, if you get it approved,i'm next in line..

Court in Fl · February 03, 2004, 15:18

Did you send a check with your form 1 ?
It will be interesting to see if or when they deposit the check.

I always tell my customers to send a personal check to cover the transfor tax,
that way when you get the canceled check back you know it's in the hands of the NFA Branch.

Years ago we had a dealer here in Florida who was keeping the $200.00
for himself and making his own tax stamps and putting them on your form 4's
and holding them for 3 or 4 months then we would tell you you are approved and come get your gun. He did this most of the time on forms where he could not get a CLEO sign off.

But sometimes he did get a CLEO sign off and those
form 4's where sent to the ATF.

So if you have a gun from him you don't know if it's regestered to you or not.

Real Scarey $hit.

Sorry, I got kind of off topic.

Court in FL.

slash-5 · February 03, 2004, 15:22

Quote:

Originally posted by garandguy10
i think that the 9th circuit court of appeals has recently ruled that individuals can manufacture"homemade "machine guns without registering them or paying any taxes.the individuals must however not be manufacturing for sale or transfer and have been convicted of a felony to qualify i kid you not.

This has been abridged to say that you can manufacture a NEW weapon design, NOT modify an existing semi-auto rifle.

At least that was what I was told.

February 02, 2004, 19:46	#1
FALx2 Registered FALaholic #: 12948 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bellevue, Idaho Posts: 126	Broke My Gun Oh, no! I broke my MAC-10! I noticed it didn't fire on semi-auto the other day when I went to the range with my Mac and my new Gemtech Viper-9. When I got home I figured it had to do with the extra fouling, but when I took it apart, I found that the selector switch broke clean in half, inside the sear!! Snapped the shaft right in half, right in the middle of the sear. Gun still worked on full auto, though. Lucky I had spares on hand. I just filled out my Form 1 to make a full auto FAL, supposedly legal here in the 9th district court jurisdiction. Now, for CLEO signoff!

February 02, 2004, 19:59	#2
GUNNER0311 Registered FALaholic #: 10471 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 289	Great metalurgy on that part..... __________________ You can accomplish more with a kind word and a gun, than a kind word alone!

February 02, 2004, 21:38	#5
instr8 Registered FALaholic #: 12904 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,654	Hmmm! My ugly one is still working. __________________ I'll have another......

February 03, 2004, 09:25	#9
splattermatic "THUG" MODERATOR FALaholic #: 2223 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: southwestern,usa Posts: 6,791	keep us updated on how it goes, if you get it approved,i'm next in line.. __________________ the worst thing about making it to middle age, is watching people you know and love, start dying off. i miss you cubby 10-10-08 kim, thanks for being my friend.

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February 02, 2004, 20:37	#4
garandguy10 Registered FALaholic #: 10840 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: some where Posts: 2,796	i think that the 9th circuit court of appeals has recently ruled that individuals can manufacture"homemade "machine guns without registering them or paying any taxes.the individuals must however not be manufacturing for sale or transfer and have been convicted of a felony to qualify i kid you not.

February 02, 2004, 22:19	#6
Court in Fl Curio & Relic FALaholic #: 5046 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,150	The selector breaking is a common problem. I have broke 2 over the years. In semi auto the sear pivots on the rod and trips the little hook on the trigger. Court in Fl.

February 03, 2004, 08:04	#8
FALx2 Registered FALaholic #: 12948 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bellevue, Idaho Posts: 126	Dropped off papers for CLEO signoff and got my photos today...Sherrif is good about signing. We'll know if the BATFE guys approve it in about 3 months or so.

February 03, 2004, 15:18	#10
Court in Fl Curio & Relic FALaholic #: 5046 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,150	Did you send a check with your form 1 ? It will be interesting to see if or when they deposit the check. I always tell my customers to send a personal check to cover the transfor tax, that way when you get the canceled check back you know it's in the hands of the NFA Branch. Years ago we had a dealer here in Florida who was keeping the $200.00 for himself and making his own tax stamps and putting them on your form 4's and holding them for 3 or 4 months then we would tell you you are approved and come get your gun. He did this most of the time on forms where he could not get a CLEO sign off. But sometimes he did get a CLEO sign off and those form 4's where sent to the ATF. So if you have a gun from him you don't know if it's regestered to you or not. Real Scarey $hit. Sorry, I got kind of off topic. Court in FL.