What's your choice for a scope on HK91

Barry Yeaman · January 27, 2004, 06:34

I have an EOTEC, but out past a 100yrds, it leaves alot to be desired. I really can't swing the $$ for an ACOG. What do any of you have on your 91.
I have already posted the question on the HK forum, but did not get any response yet.

16R40 · January 27, 2004, 10:34

I put a IOR M2 scope on my Hk clone

http://www.hunt101.com/img/048525.jpg

Barry Yeaman · January 27, 2004, 11:56

I mean do you get on target with it pretty quick?

16R40 · January 27, 2004, 12:23

about as quickly as with any other rifle scope, this is a 4 power rifle scope, not a CQB scope. if you want something that can be used past a 100 yards, your choices are either a ACOG, or a rifle scope....most of the red dots like AIM POINT, EOTEC don't have magnification to them. IOR has a BDC for 168 gr illuminated reticle.

JeffJ · January 27, 2004, 12:27

I have a tasco Super Sniper fixed power 10x on mine...I like it..

Barry Yeaman · January 27, 2004, 13:10

I tried using my EOTEC and like you said, not good past a 100yrds. Red dots or the like seem to lose it at about 100yrds and as mentioned, don't have any magnification either. I am gooing down to look at the ACOG again. The Tasco SS is kinda hard to find, just to hold and look at. I see that most every one who has one speaks pretty highly of them.

RS39 · January 27, 2004, 13:22

You can now get the IOR scope with a CQC reticle, donut of death center with crosshairs outside, and bullet drop lines below.

Jodi · January 27, 2004, 17:02

I went with the Hensoldt 10x42 MSG90 scope. Expensive, but what an incredible
scope. BDC'd to 1000 meters. For longer range shooting, get something more than a 4x power.

Sgt_Gold · January 27, 2004, 21:09

If you can find it, get the military surplus Hensoldt 4x scope. It's got a BDC that's matched for the NATO standard 7.62x51 147 gr round out of the G-3 barrel (18"?). I have one on my G-3 and it's very bright. I would stay with the 4x scopes because I think they offer the best flexability on a rack grade rifle.

Barry Yeaman · January 28, 2004, 06:15

Who has the best deal on IOR and Hensoldt scopes? Where is the best source for finding them?

Sgt_Gold · January 28, 2004, 08:59

The Hensoldt I have is a militars surplus scope. I got it through CDNN a couple of years ago. SWFA has prices as low any anyone. Do a google for IOR and see what turns up.

Ssarge · January 28, 2004, 12:35

Century has Hensholdt scopes and mounts right now. SOG also has them.
http://www.centuryarms.com/dealer/new_arrivals.htm
http://www.southernohiogun.com/unusual.html

fatboyclone · January 29, 2004, 10:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Ssarge
Century has Hensholdt scopes and mounts right now. SOG also has them.
http://www.centuryarms.com/dealer/new_arrivals.htm
http://www.southernohiogun.com/unusual.html

the century link requires a username and password.

Savary · January 29, 2004, 12:23

So how good is the Hensoldt 4x24 ?
Cost $500 with illuminator and G3 mount, you could re-sell the mount.
Or would it be better to spend $300 on an IOR?

Sgt_Gold · January 29, 2004, 16:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Savary
So how good is the Hensoldt 4x24 ?
Cost $500 with illuminator and G3 mount, you could re-sell the mount.
Or would it be better to spend $300 on an IOR?

I have the Hensoldt without the illuminator, it's an excellent scope. Remember that for an H&K you also need a quality claw mount, so factor that in with the price as well.

Ssarge · January 29, 2004, 18:24

Century has two. The first is listed as a G3 Scope and Mount $349.87 Code SC 1029.
The other is a Z24 scope and mount $399.87 Code SC 1060.
I have not called to find out the condition of differences between the two.

Volksjaeger · January 29, 2004, 18:26

Hensoldt is the military brand of Ziess and they are excellent scopes (Do the Germans ever skimp on quality?)...I've had the old and new styles and they were always bright and clean. Using one I was shooting 1/2 in. groups with my Springfield SAR-3. If you get one make sure the scope is mounted the right way as there was/is a plastic pad on the back of the mount (I believe the mounts on mine were for MP-5's originally but I could be wrong) that interferes with the sight drum on a G3/HK91 so the importers mounted the scopes backwards on them, making the sight picture canted. I don't know if this is the case with the new batch, but the ones from a few years ago were llike this. The illuminators were selling for $100 so that's not a bad price overall for what you're getting. I've also seen mounts for the FAL for them that would make them very handy.

Sgt_Gold · January 29, 2004, 20:48

Quote:

Originally posted by Volksjaeger
[BII've also seen mounts for the FAL for them that would make them very handy. [/B]

The Hensoldt scopes use STANAG mounts. They will fit any NATO STANAG mount for any rifle.

**Falcon** · January 29, 2004, 21:02

Zeiss Diavari DA 1.5 x 6 are excellent scopes and can be found in Europe for a reasonable price. They are issue for the SG1 series rifles. I bought this one with mount for $535. shipped

paddle3 · January 29, 2004, 21:12

Greetings:

I have a HK91, 4X Hendsoldt, factory claw Stanag, MSG90 stock and trigger group. Thus far, since I acquired the rifle a few months ago, and have only been able to send a few hundred rounds downrange, (damned cold here in MI of late!) - I've been very satisfied with performance of the system.

The optics are clear and bright - and have a drop compensator adjustable out to 600 yards.

.02 cents....

paddle3

Sgt_Gold · January 30, 2004, 09:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Falcon
Zeiss Diavari DA 1.5 x 6 are excellent scopes and can be found in Europe for a reasonable price. They are issue for the SG1 series rifles. I bought this one with mount for $535. shipped

Who did you get the Zeiss Diavari socpe from? I would like to get one myself.

**Falcon** · January 30, 2004, 09:25

I'll PM you with the details.

January 27, 2004, 06:34	#1
Barry Yeaman Registered FALaholic #: 7022 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N.C. Posts: 115	What's your choice for a scope on HK91 I have an EOTEC, but out past a 100yrds, it leaves alot to be desired. I really can't swing the $$ for an ACOG. What do any of you have on your 91. I have already posted the question on the HK forum, but did not get any response yet.

January 27, 2004, 11:56	#3
Barry Yeaman Registered FALaholic #: 7022 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N.C. Posts: 115	Does it come up pretty quick. I mean do you get on target with it pretty quick?

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January 27, 2004, 10:34	#2
16R40 Banned TROLL FALaholic #: 8227 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,754	I put a IOR M2 scope on my Hk clone http://www.hunt101.com/img/048525.jpg

January 27, 2004, 12:23	#4
16R40 Banned TROLL FALaholic #: 8227 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,754	about as quickly as with any other rifle scope, this is a 4 power rifle scope, not a CQB scope. if you want something that can be used past a 100 yards, your choices are either a ACOG, or a rifle scope....most of the red dots like AIM POINT, EOTEC don't have magnification to them. IOR has a BDC for 168 gr illuminated reticle.

January 27, 2004, 12:27	#5
JeffJ Registered FALaholic #: 5212 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 1,971	I have a tasco Super Sniper fixed power 10x on mine...I like it..

January 27, 2004, 13:10	#6
Barry Yeaman Registered FALaholic #: 7022 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N.C. Posts: 115	I tried using my EOTEC and like you said, not good past a 100yrds. Red dots or the like seem to lose it at about 100yrds and as mentioned, don't have any magnification either. I am gooing down to look at the ACOG again. The Tasco SS is kinda hard to find, just to hold and look at. I see that most every one who has one speaks pretty highly of them.

January 27, 2004, 13:22	#7
RS39 Registered FALaholic #: 5655 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 682	You can now get the IOR scope with a CQC reticle, donut of death center with crosshairs outside, and bullet drop lines below.

January 27, 2004, 17:02	#8
Jodi Registered FALaholic #: 3207 Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 100	I went with the Hensoldt 10x42 MSG90 scope. Expensive, but what an incredible scope. BDC'd to 1000 meters. For longer range shooting, get something more than a 4x power.

January 27, 2004, 21:09	#9
Sgt_Gold Registered FALaholic #: 6672 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Behind enemy lines Posts: 2,158	If you can find it, get the military surplus Hensoldt 4x scope. It's got a BDC that's matched for the NATO standard 7.62x51 147 gr round out of the G-3 barrel (18"?). I have one on my G-3 and it's very bright. I would stay with the 4x scopes because I think they offer the best flexability on a rack grade rifle.

January 28, 2004, 06:15	#10
Barry Yeaman Registered FALaholic #: 7022 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N.C. Posts: 115	Who has the best deal on IOR and Hensoldt scopes? Where is the best source for finding them?

January 28, 2004, 08:59	#11
Sgt_Gold Registered FALaholic #: 6672 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Behind enemy lines Posts: 2,158	The Hensoldt I have is a militars surplus scope. I got it through CDNN a couple of years ago. SWFA has prices as low any anyone. Do a google for IOR and see what turns up.

January 28, 2004, 12:35	#12
Ssarge Registered FALaholic #: 247 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 7,473	Century has Hensholdt scopes and mounts right now. SOG also has them. http://www.centuryarms.com/dealer/new_arrivals.htm http://www.southernohiogun.com/unusual.html

January 29, 2004, 12:23	#14
Savary Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 8780 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 564	So how good is the Hensoldt 4x24 ? Cost $500 with illuminator and G3 mount, you could re-sell the mount. Or would it be better to spend $300 on an IOR?

January 29, 2004, 18:24	#16
Ssarge Registered FALaholic #: 247 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 7,473	Century has two. The first is listed as a G3 Scope and Mount $349.87 Code SC 1029. The other is a Z24 scope and mount $399.87 Code SC 1060. I have not called to find out the condition of differences between the two.

January 29, 2004, 18:26	#17
Volksjaeger Registered FALaholic #: 8608 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Waterford, Michigan Posts: 596	Hensoldt is the military brand of Ziess and they are excellent scopes (Do the Germans ever skimp on quality?)...I've had the old and new styles and they were always bright and clean. Using one I was shooting 1/2 in. groups with my Springfield SAR-3. If you get one make sure the scope is mounted the right way as there was/is a plastic pad on the back of the mount (I believe the mounts on mine were for MP-5's originally but I could be wrong) that interferes with the sight drum on a G3/HK91 so the importers mounted the scopes backwards on them, making the sight picture canted. I don't know if this is the case with the new batch, but the ones from a few years ago were llike this. The illuminators were selling for $100 so that's not a bad price overall for what you're getting. I've also seen mounts for the FAL for them that would make them very handy.

January 29, 2004, 21:12	#20
paddle3 Registered FALaholic #: 10500 Join Date: May 2003 Location: MI Posts: 148	Greetings: I have a HK91, 4X Hendsoldt, factory claw Stanag, MSG90 stock and trigger group. Thus far, since I acquired the rifle a few months ago, and have only been able to send a few hundred rounds downrange, (damned cold here in MI of late!) - I've been very satisfied with performance of the system. The optics are clear and bright - and have a drop compensator adjustable out to 600 yards. .02 cents.... paddle3

January 30, 2004, 09:25	#22
Falcon FAL Cognoscenti Contributor FALaholic #: 2049 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,768	I'll PM you with the details.