Izzy K98 Mauser in .308 Questions

AR Thumper · January 13, 2004, 12:32

I have been thinking of a Izzy K98 .308. Are these converted from German Mausers, Israili Mfg or what? Will German K98 parts interchange ? Thanks in advance , Thumper

dougjones31 · January 13, 2004, 12:49

Converted 98's. All 98 parts!

masman · January 13, 2004, 15:40

they're converted german and czech mausers and like doug said they're compatible.fn also made some built on short actions for the isrealis.

bausch · January 14, 2004, 10:43

Are these Mausers available now ? they sound like an interesting variation.
Regards Bausch

gunsmith_tony · January 14, 2004, 11:16

Most of the examples I've come accross were very nicely done. I think Paul and Ludwig would approve.

Calvert1 · January 14, 2004, 17:44

They aren't exactly rare, but not common either. Check the auction sites and gunshows if you want to find one.

AR Thumper · January 15, 2004, 11:24

Well I May live to regret it but I ordered a Gunsmith special from SOG yesterday.

ADDY said cracked stocks, missing small parts ,No bolt

I hope that all three dont apply! last time I ordered from the gunsmith special I was well pleased I got a nice Turk mauser& I could not find anything wrong.

It was burried in cosmoline! If the reciever is OK it should be worth $70.00 Don't you think?Could be another chance to rescue a old warhorse!I will post a report when it arrives, Wish me LUCK!

,Thumper

Queenie · January 15, 2004, 13:04

AR Thumper...I could be wrong, but there was a pretty good "run" on those SOG specials a few months ago when they had a bunch of complete guns for sale. A lot of people from other C&R gunboards bought them. I got one then and it was very nice. I think the ones they have left may indeed be the bottom of the barrel. Hope this isn't the case for you. Good luck.

AR Thumper · January 16, 2004, 12:19

Queenie,I hope I get a nice one just missing a bolt,if a 98 bolt will indeed fit. I have a bolt and a few small parts. I saw stocks in Shotgun news for $35 if that was all that it needs I'm all set. I just hope the barrel & reciever is good. Im keeping my fingers crossed!!!!!

,Thumper

2ifbyC · January 16, 2004, 13:32

At least expect pitting under the wood on the receiver. I've yet seen an Izzy that didn't have any. Good luck!

ProGun1 · January 16, 2004, 17:14

The one I got a few months back was not from the bottom of a barrel at all...it was from the bottom of the Dead Sea. The wood was soft and the barreled action was pitted beyond belief. If it were just a case of small missing parts or a cracked stock I could live with it. Other folks, maybe yourself may get a primo rifle for $70 but I didn't have that luck. I'd advise canceling that order and let them choke on the rest of the Izzys. IMO, when it comes to these Izzy rifles, it's best to pay $150 or more for an example you can see in a picture or first hand. In my opinion, the one I got was worth $25 for the bolt and bolt release pivot pin I salvaged and nothing else. Good luck.

AR Thumper · January 27, 2004, 20:54

OH Well. after over 2 weeks of waiting ,going to the gunshop, FFL going AWOL,and generally trying to catch my FFL in the shop(she sells real estate on the side!!)I finally got her to Phone & try to Track down The Izzy. Come to find out they had sold out except for a couple with wintertrigger models according to the nice lady on the phone. Well Progun1 kinda put a damper on my Enthusiasm and the long wait I decided to cancel the order.

Iwill save my pennies for another adventure later on!

Some days you eat chicken next day feathers!

,Thumper

JoeLad · January 27, 2004, 22:10

I bought mine from Gunplumber. He refinished the whole thing a nice, dark Park.
They're out there. Keep looking, you may find one on the auction boards.

JoeLad

mrf2 · January 28, 2004, 02:34

I got mine years ago in a small Arizona gunshop. $100 out the door and no rust/pitting or anything below the woodline

. The stock was beat, but looks ok and still shoots nice.

mrf2

spiny_norman · January 28, 2004, 02:51

I may have spent too much. but I got one this weekend at the gun show here in the People's Republic. It came with a grenade launcher and looks as if it has just been taken out of the arsenal. It has a blond stock, and appears to be unfired. I went to the gunshow expecting to sell 2 rifles, which I did. I didn't anticipate coming home with two different ones.

Mahatma · January 28, 2004, 12:45

Some Israeli Mausers were manufactured by FN in .308. These Mausers are in intermediate length action as opposed to the standard length German and Czech rifles. FN bolts and German/Czech bolts are not interchangable. FN bolts are not as easy as standard bolts to locate simply because FN did not produce near the numbers of Mausers as did the Germans and the Czechs.

Regards,
Mahatma Kayne Jeeves

January 13, 2004, 12:32	#1
AR Thumper Registered FALaholic #: 3478 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: L.A.(Lower Arkansas) Posts: 772	Izzy K98 Mauser in .308 Questions I have been thinking of a Izzy K98 .308. Are these converted from German Mausers, Israili Mfg or what? Will German K98 parts interchange ? Thanks in advance , Thumper __________________ I Got My Fals Named Ennie, Meenie, Miney, & Fred! Wife said I Can't Have "No Mo!!!!!

January 13, 2004, 12:49	#2
dougjones31 Registered FALaholic #: 6967 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 4,282	Converted 98's. All 98 parts! __________________ "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future." --Adolf Hitler, 1935

January 13, 2004, 15:40	#3
masman Registered FALaholic #: 781 Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 5,662	they're converted german and czech mausers and like doug said they're compatible.fn also made some built on short actions for the isrealis. __________________ somethings wrong with the world when the best rapper is white.the best golfer is black.the french think that the us is arrogant and the germans don't want to go to war

January 14, 2004, 17:44	#6
Calvert1 Registered FALaholic #: 11089 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 685	They aren't exactly rare, but not common either. Check the auction sites and gunshows if you want to find one. __________________ So help me God and keep me steadfast.

January 15, 2004, 11:24	#7
AR Thumper Registered FALaholic #: 3478 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: L.A.(Lower Arkansas) Posts: 772	Well I May live to regret it but I ordered a Gunsmith special from SOG yesterday. ADDY said cracked stocks, missing small parts ,No bolt I hope that all three dont apply! last time I ordered from the gunsmith special I was well pleased I got a nice Turk mauser& I could not find anything wrong.It was burried in cosmoline! If the reciever is OK it should be worth $70.00 Don't you think?Could be another chance to rescue a old warhorse!I will post a report when it arrives, Wish me LUCK! ,Thumper __________________ I Got My Fals Named Ennie, Meenie, Miney, & Fred! Wife said I Can't Have "No Mo!!!!!

January 14, 2004, 10:43	#4
bausch Registered FALaholic #: 6745 Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 448	Are these Mausers available now ? they sound like an interesting variation. Regards Bausch

January 14, 2004, 11:16	#5
gunsmith_tony Registered FALaholic #: 6564 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,521	Most of the examples I've come accross were very nicely done. I think Paul and Ludwig would approve.

January 15, 2004, 13:04	#8
Queenie Registered FALaholic #: 5544 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,025	AR Thumper...I could be wrong, but there was a pretty good "run" on those SOG specials a few months ago when they had a bunch of complete guns for sale. A lot of people from other C&R gunboards bought them. I got one then and it was very nice. I think the ones they have left may indeed be the bottom of the barrel. Hope this isn't the case for you. Good luck.

January 16, 2004, 12:19	#9
AR Thumper Registered FALaholic #: 3478 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: L.A.(Lower Arkansas) Posts: 772	Queenie,I hope I get a nice one just missing a bolt,if a 98 bolt will indeed fit. I have a bolt and a few small parts. I saw stocks in Shotgun news for $35 if that was all that it needs I'm all set. I just hope the barrel & reciever is good. Im keeping my fingers crossed!!!!! ,Thumper __________________ I Got My Fals Named Ennie, Meenie, Miney, & Fred! Wife said I Can't Have "No Mo!!!!!

January 16, 2004, 13:32	#10
2ifbyC Registered FALaholic #: 3612 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Florida Gulf Coast Posts: 288	At least expect pitting under the wood on the receiver. I've yet seen an Izzy that didn't have any. Good luck! __________________ Oh Lawdy, help me with my FAL addiction (let me win the Lottery!).

January 16, 2004, 17:14	#11
ProGun1 Registered FALaholic #: 44 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Georgia Posts: 780	The one I got a few months back was not from the bottom of a barrel at all...it was from the bottom of the Dead Sea. The wood was soft and the barreled action was pitted beyond belief. If it were just a case of small missing parts or a cracked stock I could live with it. Other folks, maybe yourself may get a primo rifle for $70 but I didn't have that luck. I'd advise canceling that order and let them choke on the rest of the Izzys. IMO, when it comes to these Izzy rifles, it's best to pay $150 or more for an example you can see in a picture or first hand. In my opinion, the one I got was worth $25 for the bolt and bolt release pivot pin I salvaged and nothing else. Good luck. __________________ "I'm A Proud RWE" "...my pistol of fine German steel" "Second star to the right and straight on till morning"

January 27, 2004, 20:54	#12
AR Thumper Registered FALaholic #: 3478 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: L.A.(Lower Arkansas) Posts: 772	OH Well. after over 2 weeks of waiting ,going to the gunshop, FFL going AWOL,and generally trying to catch my FFL in the shop(she sells real estate on the side!!)I finally got her to Phone & try to Track down The Izzy. Come to find out they had sold out except for a couple with wintertrigger models according to the nice lady on the phone. Well Progun1 kinda put a damper on my Enthusiasm and the long wait I decided to cancel the order. Iwill save my pennies for another adventure later on! Some days you eat chicken next day feathers! ,Thumper __________________ I Got My Fals Named Ennie, Meenie, Miney, & Fred! Wife said I Can't Have "No Mo!!!!!

January 27, 2004, 22:10	#13
JoeLad Registered FALaholic #: 3353 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SE PA Posts: 3,243	I bought mine from Gunplumber. He refinished the whole thing a nice, dark Park. They're out there. Keep looking, you may find one on the auction boards. JoeLad

January 28, 2004, 02:34	#14
mrf2 Registered FALaholic #: 261 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Quantico, VA Posts: 470	I got mine years ago in a small Arizona gunshop. $100 out the door and no rust/pitting or anything below the woodline . The stock was beat, but looks ok and still shoots nice. mrf2

January 28, 2004, 02:51	#15
spiny_norman Registered FALaholic #: 8110 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 35	I may have spent too much. but I got one this weekend at the gun show here in the People's Republic. It came with a grenade launcher and looks as if it has just been taken out of the arsenal. It has a blond stock, and appears to be unfired. I went to the gunshow expecting to sell 2 rifles, which I did. I didn't anticipate coming home with two different ones. __________________ After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. --William S. Burroughs

January 28, 2004, 12:45	#16
Mahatma Registered FALaholic #: 12313 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 150	Izzy Mausers Some Israeli Mausers were manufactured by FN in .308. These Mausers are in intermediate length action as opposed to the standard length German and Czech rifles. FN bolts and German/Czech bolts are not interchangable. FN bolts are not as easy as standard bolts to locate simply because FN did not produce near the numbers of Mausers as did the Germans and the Czechs. Regards, Mahatma Kayne Jeeves __________________ Regards, Kindly Uncle Mahatma "If the outcome was predictable, it wasn't an accident." -- my brother Michael

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