Savage model 99 question

Temp · December 31, 2003, 14:53

Big gunshow coing to town this weekend. For some time I've been coveting a Savage Model 99 in .308. It's fairly easy to find one of the later models with the detachable mag and the ugly pistol grip "hardwood" stock, but I want one with the rotary magazine and the straight walnut buttstock.

I've yet to find one of the earlier (classy) models in .308. Did they make a straight grip, non detachable magazine model in .308?

I turned down a beautiful straight grip example at the last gun show that I attended because it was a .300 Savage. (walnut furniture,... rifle looked like new for $500)

Anyway,.... I'm wondering what anyone can tell me about the availability of the earlier models in .308 before I give up and buy one in .300 Savage.

All feedback is greatly appreciated,...

masman · December 31, 2003, 14:57

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Originally posted by Temp
I've yet to find one of the earlier (classy) models in .308.

because you looking for the wrong classy lever action .308!buy a winchester model 88

Temp · December 31, 2003, 15:01

BAH!,... they ugly,....

Temp · December 31, 2003, 15:06

Seriously,... I once owned an old Savage 99 in .22 highpower and it was about as sleek a' hanndling rifle as one could ask for. I shoot lefty and to me, a Savage model 99 in .308 would be about the ultimate in a light, quick handling, all around big game rifle.

I'd be perfectly happy with one in .300 Savage except for the price of ammo. It'd be particularly happy with a 99 that would digest these battle packs of Port that I got layin' around.

**bykerhd** · December 31, 2003, 15:19

Savage 99 with rotary magazine in .308 was listed in 1960 & 1975 Gun Digests. Didn't have time to look much farther. Kind of assume late 50's to late 70's or early 80's for production years, There should be some around. I know that generally stocks got uglier each year. The earlier the better as far as quality & appearance.
They made the 99A ? in the mid 70's with a plain, staight stock. Don't know what kind of wood they used. .308 was a listed caliber.
Good luck.

**Falcon** · December 31, 2003, 15:20

From what I gather, by the time the .308 cartridge came about, the standard stock configuration was the pistol grip style. The straight grip stock could be had but was a special order item. I know of a newer model 99CD that is in 95% or better condition for $300. If your interested, email me and I'll provide his tel#, he is in IL.

Temp · December 31, 2003, 15:38

Great info. Thanks, Falcon,.... let me give the gun show a look, and if nothing interesting turns up, I'll get with you about that 99CD.

**idsubgun** · December 31, 2003, 18:52

Word of advice, don't take the rotary mag out unless absolutely necessary. I rebuilt one in .300 Savage about a dozen years ago. Tore it completely down and refinished the complete rifle, metal & wood. Turned out absolutely beautiful! But, getting that rotary mag timed just right was a bear! It took many, many, MANY times to get it right and have that number in the window, showing correctly.

skfullgun · December 31, 2003, 19:38

I have owned 99's in .300 Savage (original "takedown" model which I sold and will never regret) and a 99C in .243. I like the rifles and found them to handle really well. The trigger is the weakness and you have to look around for a smith that can do a nice trigger job on the 99.

GUNNER0311 · December 31, 2003, 20:04

Model 99 in 308 Win only in latter production guns with pistol grip. Mine is in
250-3000 Caliber(Mid 1950s production) with the "Snabel" forend and rotory
magazine. It works slick and shoots great too!

The best "Turn of the Century Technology!" Turn of the 19th to the 20th Century that is.

Chip · December 31, 2003, 22:34

I beg to differ with some of the posters. The 99A was chambered in 308 up through the mid 80s. It had the rotary mag, but by this time the mag was made of steel instead of brass. It had a straight pistol grip stock and schnabel fore-end made of walnut. It was probably the best looking 99 made in the post war years.Other calibers made in this model were,250-3000,243,and 375 Win. I sold many of these when I was running a large gun shop in Boise, Idaho. I have owned two 99s in the past. One was a 22 Hi-Power back in the early 50s and the other was an early 99A with brass mag in 300 Sav. Probably the finest lever action rifle ever made.

skfullgun · January 01, 2004, 01:09

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Probably the finest lever action rifle ever made.

I would have to agree.

And the .300 Savage is an awesome cartridge.

fry · January 01, 2004, 01:36

i have a 99C, clip ... 1965 .308... love it, only scoped rifle i have ever owned until last year, was a hand me down from my dad. it has a straight stock w/ pistol grip... a sportview 3X9,, kicks like a mule (light w/ straight stock) wont hit the broad side of a barn with 180g bullets dead nuts w/ 150's. i have taken a couple dozen big game animals with it.

the 99 seem s to very common around these parts....especially in 300 savage, i see them all over the guns shows for 200 to 300 bucks. everyone i have talked to that has a had a 300 savage likes it very much ... and as you know is about like a hopped up 30-30.

Talyn · January 01, 2004, 01:41

The 300 Savage is a great little cartridge, and just alittle less powerful than a 308 rather than a hopped-up 30/30. I've got 2 and they'll do alot more than any 30/30 will.

Talyn

newfalguy101 · January 01, 2004, 01:53

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Probably the finest lever action rifle ever made.
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I would have to agree.

And the .300 Savage is an awesome cartridge.

I agree also, even tho they are somewhat lacking in looks, they are wonderful rifles.

I havent seen a nice example around here for less than $500, with the nicer guns upwards of $600.

and I am not talking about the collecter guns, those prices are for shooters!!!!!!

I love my 99 in .308 and it loves the 130gr hornady bullets I like to run through it, unfortunetly, its down right now as need ( I believe anyway) a new extracter and I cant find one for a price I want to pay

fry · January 01, 2004, 02:55

i was once told they were designed as a saddle gun. why they look the way they do.. can anyone confirm or denia this?

Timber Wolf · January 01, 2004, 08:18

Right cheer in the safe is an example. A 99A Series A in .308. My all time hands down favorite rifle. I looked long and hard for one to buy and just got lucky in that this straight grip walnut one in .308 came along first as I was buying the first .308 99 I found at a decent price (I paid $350 with Weaver mounts and a cheap scope that had to be replaced). Seems to be about ten-to-one 300 Savage guns to .308 guns at the pawn/gun shops I have visited (very rare to see a .308 Sav 99 on the rack). Prices on these must be up as $500 for a nice gun seems high to me. I have not bought any lately but I picked up all three of mine in the last 5-7 years in the $3-400 range. I also have a magazine fed .284 Win. and a rotary mag re-bore to .358 Win. (don't know what the original chambering was). I bought a nice pre-64 .308 Winchester 88 a couple of years ago for $425 but that is a clip fed gun. If I were you I would pick up a nice shooter-grade .300 Sav to hunt with while I kept looking for a .308.

BTW mine is very accurate with Hornady 150 grain Light Magnums.

What are you guy's complaints about the looks? I think they are beautiful rifles!

Temp · January 01, 2004, 10:10

Just got on and it seems that people added some discussion to this thread. I think that some people view the 99 as being a bit homely because they're so used to the looks of a model 94 Winchester in a lever gun. I think that the straight grip models look very sleek,... and they handle like nothing else.

lol,.... seems as if the good news is,.. they *do* exist,.... the bad news is, people who have one in .308 don't seem too eager to part with them. Sounds like you have a very nice 99 collection, Timber Wolf. I can understand why you're enthusiastic about them.

As far as prices go,.... a nice early model 99 will bring about $600 around here and they're getting very difficult to locate. The later models go for much less.

Biotech · January 02, 2004, 19:34

I have a 99E in 308 with rotary mag it has a pistol grip stock though. I got it from a buddy while stationed in Alaska in 82. He wanted to move up to a 300 Win Mag for bear hunting and sold it for 200 to me.

**idsubgun** · January 02, 2004, 21:59

I traded a 283 Chevy short block for my .300 savage m99.

tulsamal · January 02, 2004, 22:29

Just wanted to agree with some of the above posters that there is nothing at all wrong with getting one in .300 Savage. I handload for all of my deer rifles so I wouldn't see the ammo as being an issue. I've had my .350 RM M700 for 15 years and it's never seen even one round of factory ammo.

I like the rotary mag M99's as well. I keep hoping that someday I will luck into one in .22 HiPower. I've always wanted to try reloading for that one. And then I would have to shoot a few deer with it.

Gregg

Temp · January 02, 2004, 22:35

I had my .22 highpower 99 for several years before I shot it because of the scarcity of ammo. Then, I did a bit of research and found that 25-35 Remington was just .22 Savage necked up to .25 caliber. I found bulk rate 25-35 brass, .22 Savage dies, and .227 diameter 70 grain bullets at Natchez Shooters supply and loaded up a bunch.

One pass through the dies is all that it took to form 25-35 to .22 Savage.

Chip · January 02, 2004, 23:25

For you folks that think a 300 Savage is a"little hotter than a 30-30" get the latest issue of Guns and Ammo Feb 2004 and read up on the 300Sav. How about a 150 grain at 2729FPS, or a 165 gr. at 2626 FPS? And the big boy, 180 gr. at 2479FPS. These are right in there with the 308. These are all hand loads that were fired in a Rem 700. But if I remember correctly the Rem 700 and the Savage 99 both have a 22 inch barrel. Anyway the 300 Sav should take any animal in the lower 48. It's a very good caliber.

fry · January 02, 2004, 23:27

the kewl ones have the counters in em to tell ya how many ya have left... or right

Michael Bush · January 03, 2004, 00:32

When did Savage stop putting metal buttplates on the 99?

Temp · January 03, 2004, 11:47

Just got back from the gunshow,.. saw several Model 99's there going for obnoxious prices ranging from $600 for a "rode hard, put up wet ", old 250-3000 to over $1500 for an example in .358. I had about given up when I walked by a table and say a couple of Model 99's buried in their rack. The first one I picked up was a very decelt pistol gripped .300 Savage for $500. I was mulling it over and then I picked up ther other one. It blew me away. Looks like new, straight grip walnut stock with lots of figure. (no cheesy stamped in checkering) Professionally installed quick detach swivels and weaver mounts,... just a beautifle little lever gun, totally flawless.... in .243,... $560 out the door.At first I was a bit put off by the caliber,.. but after considering it for a few minutes I concluded that .243 is a very appropriate caliber for a sleek little lever action rifle such as a 99,... so I bought it.

I'm kinda pumped about it. It's going to be an excellent addition to my collection. I see a 6X Leopold compact and a Boyd's leather sling in it's future.

,... oh yeah,.. I also bought the house next door today,.... it's a great old Craftsman style built in the 20's. It's nice but I'm more excited about my 99.

Timber Wolf · January 03, 2004, 18:25

Congrats on the new additions. The .243 should be a sweet shooter.

lutefisk · January 03, 2004, 21:25

Whew, all this Savage talk had me looking for a week to find it. Brass counter
300 Savage, #7554XX. Anyone know when it was born.

When my shoulders were a bunch younger I had run some pretty hot loads through it. As I recall, accuracy really went to pot...and it could have been because it smacked so hard.

I've got a cow tag left and that 1873 Springfield is getting heavy (and I don't want to get it wet AND this is a real storm-been plowing for 6 hours today). I think I'll mount a Marbles peep on this and take it out on snowshoes tomorrow.

FYI, this has the original 24" Hi-Pressure Steel barrel - not 22".

fry · January 04, 2004, 00:45

thats really neat.. congrates on the 6mm. nice piece you'll enjoy it..... wish i had one in the stable.. should have bought that Remington boltgun in 6Rem from the X inlaw when he offered it up for cheap!

**LAFAL** · January 04, 2004, 01:35

Whew, all this Savage talk had me looking for a week to find it. Brass counter
300 Savage, #7554XX. Anyone know when it was born?

My Dad left me his Savage 99 in .30-30. It has the counter, metal buttplate, fold down sights at muzzle, midbarrel and a lyman flipup peep at the back. He won several gentleman's bets about this rifle during the 60s and 70s cause folks didn't know that Savage made a .30-30 that long ago. I found a savage collectors' website and typed in the serial number. It came back with a date of 1907. Just search for Savage collector association and hopefully you'll find the site too.

Temp · January 04, 2004, 08:43

You guys who have an old 99 gathering dust should know that they're worth some money, these days. Don't let 'em go cheap.

Yes,.. Savage made the 99 in 30-30. I've seen a few.

**Falcon** · January 04, 2004, 09:06

Here it is...Savage99.com

Munster30 · January 04, 2004, 09:58

N8Gnnr had two of them for sale in his shop in Hadlock. One was a .308 and the other .300 Savage. IIRC the prices were good.
Contact Nate, he might still have them.

**bykerhd** · January 05, 2004, 09:48

I've got an old 99A in .303 Savage that my grandfather gave me almost 40 years ago. He got it when he was a boy around 1910 when an uncle who owned it passed away. The rifle was produced in 1908 as I remember from checking the serial number. It has the straight stock, curved steel buttplate, schnabel forend, folding Lyman tang sight and slots for two folding rear sights(both gone missing). It supposedley accounted for quite a few deer & at least one bear. Unfortunately the rifling is in very poor condition. I shot it when I was a kid but probably wouldn't now. Also, .303 savage is getting very hard to come by now. I won't part with it though.

gordo63 · January 05, 2004, 12:12

I have to chime in on praising the .300 Savage. I, too, had one with the brass rotary magazine and it was a fine rifle/caliber. I found that the cheap Winchester 150g power-point bullets on top of a load of Win748 powder was a great shooting load (less than 1" at 100). What helped mine, too, was that it had a Williams rear peep sight.

I had no trouble finding .300 Savage brass so the reloading was very cheap. About the only difference between the .300 Savage and the .308 is the length of the neck so the .308 can be loaded a little hotter.

The .300 Savage has taken its share of Elk and deer since it came about in, I believe, the 20's so it is a classic.

I only got rid of mine because I don't care much for lever actions. I sure liked it much better than the tube fed lever guns.

December 31, 2003, 14:53	#1
Temp Registered FALaholic #: 10384 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: right of center Posts: 4,212	Savage model 99 question Big gunshow coing to town this weekend. For some time I've been coveting a Savage Model 99 in .308. It's fairly easy to find one of the later models with the detachable mag and the ugly pistol grip "hardwood" stock, but I want one with the rotary magazine and the straight walnut buttstock. I've yet to find one of the earlier (classy) models in .308. Did they make a straight grip, non detachable magazine model in .308? I turned down a beautiful straight grip example at the last gun show that I attended because it was a .300 Savage. (walnut furniture,... rifle looked like new for $500) Anyway,.... I'm wondering what anyone can tell me about the availability of the earlier models in .308 before I give up and buy one in .300 Savage. All feedback is greatly appreciated,... __________________ Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.

December 31, 2003, 15:01	#3
Temp Registered FALaholic #: 10384 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: right of center Posts: 4,212	BAH!,... they ugly,.... __________________ Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.

December 31, 2003, 15:06	#4
Temp Registered FALaholic #: 10384 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: right of center Posts: 4,212	Seriously,... I once owned an old Savage 99 in .22 highpower and it was about as sleek a' hanndling rifle as one could ask for. I shoot lefty and to me, a Savage model 99 in .308 would be about the ultimate in a light, quick handling, all around big game rifle. I'd be perfectly happy with one in .300 Savage except for the price of ammo. It'd be particularly happy with a 99 that would digest these battle packs of Port that I got layin' around. __________________ Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.

December 31, 2003, 18:52	#8
idsubgun "Comfortably Numb" Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 3100 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Idaho Posts: 9,193	Word of advice, don't take the rotary mag out unless absolutely necessary. I rebuilt one in .300 Savage about a dozen years ago. Tore it completely down and refinished the complete rifle, metal & wood. Turned out absolutely beautiful! But, getting that rotary mag timed just right was a bear! It took many, many, MANY times to get it right and have that number in the window, showing correctly. __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum "If you wish for peace, prepare for war"

December 31, 2003, 19:38	#9
skfullgun Moderator FALaholic #: 3756 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,740	I have owned 99's in .300 Savage (original "takedown" model which I sold and will never regret) and a 99C in .243. I like the rifles and found them to handle really well. The trigger is the weakness and you have to look around for a smith that can do a nice trigger job on the 99. __________________ I'd like to spit some Beechnut in that dude's eyes, and shoot him with my ole .45!

December 31, 2003, 15:19	#5
bykerhd Dinosaur Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2798 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Vermont area Posts: 13,262	Savage 99 with rotary magazine in .308 was listed in 1960 & 1975 Gun Digests. Didn't have time to look much farther. Kind of assume late 50's to late 70's or early 80's for production years, There should be some around. I know that generally stocks got uglier each year. The earlier the better as far as quality & appearance. They made the 99A ? in the mid 70's with a plain, staight stock. Don't know what kind of wood they used. .308 was a listed caliber. Good luck.

December 31, 2003, 15:20	#6
Falcon FAL Cognoscenti Contributor FALaholic #: 2049 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,770	From what I gather, by the time the .308 cartridge came about, the standard stock configuration was the pistol grip style. The straight grip stock could be had but was a special order item. I know of a newer model 99CD that is in 95% or better condition for $300. If your interested, email me and I'll provide his tel#, he is in IL.

December 31, 2003, 15:38	#7
Temp Registered FALaholic #: 10384 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: right of center Posts: 4,212	Great info. Thanks, Falcon,.... let me give the gun show a look, and if nothing interesting turns up, I'll get with you about that 99CD. __________________ Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.

December 31, 2003, 20:04	#10
GUNNER0311 Registered FALaholic #: 10471 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 289	Model 99 in 308 Win only in latter production guns with pistol grip. Mine is in 250-3000 Caliber(Mid 1950s production) with the "Snabel" forend and rotory magazine. It works slick and shoots great too! The best "Turn of the Century Technology!" Turn of the 19th to the 20th Century that is. __________________ You can accomplish more with a kind word and a gun, than a kind word alone!

December 31, 2003, 22:34	#11
Chip Registered FALaholic #: 4508 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,351	I beg to differ with some of the posters. The 99A was chambered in 308 up through the mid 80s. It had the rotary mag, but by this time the mag was made of steel instead of brass. It had a straight pistol grip stock and schnabel fore-end made of walnut. It was probably the best looking 99 made in the post war years.Other calibers made in this model were,250-3000,243,and 375 Win. I sold many of these when I was running a large gun shop in Boise, Idaho. I have owned two 99s in the past. One was a 22 Hi-Power back in the early 50s and the other was an early 99A with brass mag in 300 Sav. Probably the finest lever action rifle ever made. __________________ Liberals-- a form of mental disease

January 01, 2004, 01:36	#13
fry Registered FALaholic #: 5498 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SW WA Posts: 3,520	i have a 99C, clip ... 1965 .308... love it, only scoped rifle i have ever owned until last year, was a hand me down from my dad. it has a straight stock w/ pistol grip... a sportview 3X9,, kicks like a mule (light w/ straight stock) wont hit the broad side of a barn with 180g bullets dead nuts w/ 150's. i have taken a couple dozen big game animals with it. the 99 seem s to very common around these parts....especially in 300 savage, i see them all over the guns shows for 200 to 300 bucks. everyone i have talked to that has a had a 300 savage likes it very much ... and as you know is about like a hopped up 30-30. __________________ The sea stalks the unwary and relentlessly pursues the careless ... ....o_o_o_o ./\| ,[_____], \|¯l¯¯L-O\|\|\|\|\|O_ ()_)¯()_)¯¯¯ )_)

January 01, 2004, 01:41	#14
Talyn Registered FALaholic #: 1702 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,154	The 300 Savage is a great little cartridge, and just alittle less powerful than a 308 rather than a hopped-up 30/30. I've got 2 and they'll do alot more than any 30/30 will. Talyn __________________ NRA Life Member "Those without swords can still die upon them" An armed country is a free country. If guns kill people I can blame my pencil for causing misspelled words.

January 01, 2004, 02:55	#16
fry Registered FALaholic #: 5498 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SW WA Posts: 3,520	i was once told they were designed as a saddle gun. why they look the way they do.. can anyone confirm or denia this? __________________ The sea stalks the unwary and relentlessly pursues the careless ... ....o_o_o_o ./\| ,[_____], \|¯l¯¯L-O\|\|\|\|\|O_ ()_)¯()_)¯¯¯ )_)

January 01, 2004, 08:18	#17
Timber Wolf Registered FALaholic #: 805 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Southern U.S. Posts: 2,809	Right cheer in the safe is an example. A 99A Series A in .308. My all time hands down favorite rifle. I looked long and hard for one to buy and just got lucky in that this straight grip walnut one in .308 came along first as I was buying the first .308 99 I found at a decent price (I paid $350 with Weaver mounts and a cheap scope that had to be replaced). Seems to be about ten-to-one 300 Savage guns to .308 guns at the pawn/gun shops I have visited (very rare to see a .308 Sav 99 on the rack). Prices on these must be up as $500 for a nice gun seems high to me. I have not bought any lately but I picked up all three of mine in the last 5-7 years in the $3-400 range. I also have a magazine fed .284 Win. and a rotary mag re-bore to .358 Win. (don't know what the original chambering was). I bought a nice pre-64 .308 Winchester 88 a couple of years ago for $425 but that is a clip fed gun. If I were you I would pick up a nice shooter-grade .300 Sav to hunt with while I kept looking for a .308. BTW mine is very accurate with Hornady 150 grain Light Magnums. What are you guy's complaints about the looks? I think they are beautiful rifles! __________________ First rule of gun fighting: "have a gun!" "Guns don't kill people. Daddys with good looking daughters do!"

January 01, 2004, 10:10	#18
Temp Registered FALaholic #: 10384 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: right of center Posts: 4,212	Just got on and it seems that people added some discussion to this thread. I think that some people view the 99 as being a bit homely because they're so used to the looks of a model 94 Winchester in a lever gun. I think that the straight grip models look very sleek,... and they handle like nothing else. lol,.... seems as if the good news is,.. they do exist,.... the bad news is, people who have one in .308 don't seem too eager to part with them. Sounds like you have a very nice 99 collection, Timber Wolf. I can understand why you're enthusiastic about them. As far as prices go,.... a nice early model 99 will bring about $600 around here and they're getting very difficult to locate. The later models go for much less. __________________ Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.

January 02, 2004, 19:34	#19
Biotech Registered FALaholic #: 6607 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 187	I have a 99E in 308 with rotary mag it has a pistol grip stock though. I got it from a buddy while stationed in Alaska in 82. He wanted to move up to a 300 Win Mag for bear hunting and sold it for 200 to me.

January 02, 2004, 21:59	#20
idsubgun "Comfortably Numb" Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 3100 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Idaho Posts: 9,193	I traded a 283 Chevy short block for my .300 savage m99. __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum "If you wish for peace, prepare for war"

January 02, 2004, 22:29	#21
tulsamal Registered FALaholic #: 1614 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vinita, OK Posts: 1,287	Just wanted to agree with some of the above posters that there is nothing at all wrong with getting one in .300 Savage. I handload for all of my deer rifles so I wouldn't see the ammo as being an issue. I've had my .350 RM M700 for 15 years and it's never seen even one round of factory ammo. I like the rotary mag M99's as well. I keep hoping that someday I will luck into one in .22 HiPower. I've always wanted to try reloading for that one. And then I would have to shoot a few deer with it. Gregg

January 02, 2004, 22:35	#22
Temp Registered FALaholic #: 10384 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: right of center Posts: 4,212	I had my .22 highpower 99 for several years before I shot it because of the scarcity of ammo. Then, I did a bit of research and found that 25-35 Remington was just .22 Savage necked up to .25 caliber. I found bulk rate 25-35 brass, .22 Savage dies, and .227 diameter 70 grain bullets at Natchez Shooters supply and loaded up a bunch. One pass through the dies is all that it took to form 25-35 to .22 Savage. __________________ Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.

January 02, 2004, 23:25	#23
Chip Registered FALaholic #: 4508 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,351	For you folks that think a 300 Savage is a"little hotter than a 30-30" get the latest issue of Guns and Ammo Feb 2004 and read up on the 300Sav. How about a 150 grain at 2729FPS, or a 165 gr. at 2626 FPS? And the big boy, 180 gr. at 2479FPS. These are right in there with the 308. These are all hand loads that were fired in a Rem 700. But if I remember correctly the Rem 700 and the Savage 99 both have a 22 inch barrel. Anyway the 300 Sav should take any animal in the lower 48. It's a very good caliber. __________________ Liberals-- a form of mental disease

January 02, 2004, 23:27	#24
fry Registered FALaholic #: 5498 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SW WA Posts: 3,520	the kewl ones have the counters in em to tell ya how many ya have left... or right __________________ The sea stalks the unwary and relentlessly pursues the careless ... ....o_o_o_o ./\| ,[_____], \|¯l¯¯L-O\|\|\|\|\|O_ ()_)¯()_)¯¯¯ )_)

January 03, 2004, 00:32	#25
Michael Bush Registered FALaholic #: 5641 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 316	Metal Buttplates When did Savage stop putting metal buttplates on the 99? __________________ Michael Bush Michael@mgstocks.com www.MGStocks.Com 208 25th Street Sacramento, CA 95816 "Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear - kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor - with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it." ~ General Douglas Macarthur, 1957

January 03, 2004, 11:47	#26
Temp Registered FALaholic #: 10384 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: right of center Posts: 4,212	Just got back from the gunshow,.. saw several Model 99's there going for obnoxious prices ranging from $600 for a "rode hard, put up wet ", old 250-3000 to over $1500 for an example in .358. I had about given up when I walked by a table and say a couple of Model 99's buried in their rack. The first one I picked up was a very decelt pistol gripped .300 Savage for $500. I was mulling it over and then I picked up ther other one. It blew me away. Looks like new, straight grip walnut stock with lots of figure. (no cheesy stamped in checkering) Professionally installed quick detach swivels and weaver mounts,... just a beautifle little lever gun, totally flawless.... in .243,... $560 out the door.At first I was a bit put off by the caliber,.. but after considering it for a few minutes I concluded that .243 is a very appropriate caliber for a sleek little lever action rifle such as a 99,... so I bought it. I'm kinda pumped about it. It's going to be an excellent addition to my collection. I see a 6X Leopold compact and a Boyd's leather sling in it's future. ,... oh yeah,.. I also bought the house next door today,.... it's a great old Craftsman style built in the 20's. It's nice but I'm more excited about my 99. __________________ Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.

January 03, 2004, 18:25	#27
Timber Wolf Registered FALaholic #: 805 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Southern U.S. Posts: 2,809	Congrats on the new additions. The .243 should be a sweet shooter. __________________ First rule of gun fighting: "have a gun!" "Guns don't kill people. Daddys with good looking daughters do!"

January 03, 2004, 21:25	#28
lutefisk Registered FALaholic #: 2495 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: sw colorado Posts: 2,883	Whew, all this Savage talk had me looking for a week to find it. Brass counter 300 Savage, #7554XX. Anyone know when it was born. When my shoulders were a bunch younger I had run some pretty hot loads through it. As I recall, accuracy really went to pot...and it could have been because it smacked so hard. I've got a cow tag left and that 1873 Springfield is getting heavy (and I don't want to get it wet AND this is a real storm-been plowing for 6 hours today). I think I'll mount a Marbles peep on this and take it out on snowshoes tomorrow. FYI, this has the original 24" Hi-Pressure Steel barrel - not 22".

January 04, 2004, 00:45	#29
fry Registered FALaholic #: 5498 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SW WA Posts: 3,520	thats really neat.. congrates on the 6mm. nice piece you'll enjoy it..... wish i had one in the stable.. should have bought that Remington boltgun in 6Rem from the X inlaw when he offered it up for cheap! __________________ The sea stalks the unwary and relentlessly pursues the careless ... ....o_o_o_o ./\| ,[_____], \|¯l¯¯L-O\|\|\|\|\|O_ ()_)¯()_)¯¯¯ )_)

January 04, 2004, 01:35	#30
LAFAL Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 85 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Pineville, LA Posts: 1,848	Whew, all this Savage talk had me looking for a week to find it. Brass counter 300 Savage, #7554XX. Anyone know when it was born? My Dad left me his Savage 99 in .30-30. It has the counter, metal buttplate, fold down sights at muzzle, midbarrel and a lyman flipup peep at the back. He won several gentleman's bets about this rifle during the 60s and 70s cause folks didn't know that Savage made a .30-30 that long ago. I found a savage collectors' website and typed in the serial number. It came back with a date of 1907. Just search for Savage collector association and hopefully you'll find the site too. __________________ -to AR is human. to FAL is divine!

January 04, 2004, 08:43	#31
Temp Registered FALaholic #: 10384 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: right of center Posts: 4,212	You guys who have an old 99 gathering dust should know that they're worth some money, these days. Don't let 'em go cheap. Yes,.. Savage made the 99 in 30-30. I've seen a few. __________________ Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.

January 04, 2004, 09:06	#32
Falcon FAL Cognoscenti Contributor FALaholic #: 2049 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,770	Here it is...Savage99.com

January 04, 2004, 09:58	#33
Munster30 Registered FALaholic #: 3198 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 9,550	N8Gnnr had two of them for sale in his shop in Hadlock. One was a .308 and the other .300 Savage. IIRC the prices were good. Contact Nate, he might still have them. __________________ “When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will take the strong horse” Osama bin Laden It has been the fault of both pacifism and liberalism in the past that they have ignored the immense burden of inherited evil under which society and civilization labour and have planned an imaginary world for an impossible humanity. We must recognize that we are living in an imperfect world in which human and superhuman forces of evil are at work and so long as those forces affect the political behaviour of mankind there can be no hope of abiding peace.

January 05, 2004, 09:48	#34
bykerhd Dinosaur Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2798 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Vermont area Posts: 13,262	I've got an old 99A in .303 Savage that my grandfather gave me almost 40 years ago. He got it when he was a boy around 1910 when an uncle who owned it passed away. The rifle was produced in 1908 as I remember from checking the serial number. It has the straight stock, curved steel buttplate, schnabel forend, folding Lyman tang sight and slots for two folding rear sights(both gone missing). It supposedley accounted for quite a few deer & at least one bear. Unfortunately the rifling is in very poor condition. I shot it when I was a kid but probably wouldn't now. Also, .303 savage is getting very hard to come by now. I won't part with it though.

January 05, 2004, 12:12	#35
gordo63 Registered FALaholic #: 7464 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: KY Posts: 291	I have to chime in on praising the .300 Savage. I, too, had one with the brass rotary magazine and it was a fine rifle/caliber. I found that the cheap Winchester 150g power-point bullets on top of a load of Win748 powder was a great shooting load (less than 1" at 100). What helped mine, too, was that it had a Williams rear peep sight. I had no trouble finding .300 Savage brass so the reloading was very cheap. About the only difference between the .300 Savage and the .308 is the length of the neck so the .308 can be loaded a little hotter. The .300 Savage has taken its share of Elk and deer since it came about in, I believe, the 20's so it is a classic. I only got rid of mine because I don't care much for lever actions. I sure liked it much better than the tube fed lever guns.

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