Help me decide Leupold M8 or Nikon Monarch

Tony. · November 21, 2003, 15:28

I am trying to decide on a low magnification scope for my 20" Steyr Prohunter in .376 Steyr, I think it would make a great short range dangerous game rifle. I have narrowed the field to the Leupold M8 2.5x20 and the Nikon Monarch 1x20.

The Leupold is $179 and the Nikon $159, I normally shy away from cheap glass, but with these two scope I don't think quality is an issue, just cheaper because of the single magnification.

Any recomendations?

Sword of Laban · November 21, 2003, 16:42

Leupold if you are looking at a scope. 2.5 is at least magnified the 1 X is an unmagnified red dot. Having said this I have an unmagnified 20mm red dot on my G1 and it is fun, just not as accurate for me as the iron sights. Iron I can shoot MOA or MOA plus a bit, redot puts me at around 4 MOA. Funny thing about that is that my red dot is a 3 MOA dot so I am not getting the groups I believe I should be. I am looking for a reliable and economical 4X for my baby right now. QD rings for all kinds of glass fun.

Tony. · November 21, 2003, 16:52

Thanks for the info. The Nikon I am referring to is a regular duplex reticle.

raeldridge · November 21, 2003, 19:27

Leupold, but just from customer loyalty standpoint.

sent them a f@$ked up scope I got at yard sale, asked them about getting it repaired.

was returned to me within weeks, calibration and test paperwork, new box, darn near new looking.

*no charge*

I'll never buy another brand of scope again.

nvcdl · November 21, 2003, 20:06

I just got an M8, nice little scope and not very expensive. Don't see the point of a 1X scope unless it is an Aimpoint.

Right Side Up @ 1000 MPH · November 21, 2003, 20:18

Tony, just an FYI. I traded for a Nikon 4-12 Monarch awhile back from a guy on this board. Scope was in good shape when I got it. I put it on my oldest deer rifle. It has Redfield bases and rings on it. I've had about 5 other scopes on this gun, never a problem.

I went to the range to sight it in and I couldn't hit paper. Got home, took the scope off, and saw that the rings had crushed the main tube badly and obviously that bent the scope. That's why it wouldn't get on paper before running out of adjustment. I put one of my Leupolds that had been on it before back on. No problemo.

Only thing I could figure was the main tube is soft. I'm going to send it back, but I'm doubtful that I'll get any joy out of it as it's technically my boo-boo.

I used the same amount of torque on it as I do my Leupolds.

It's very hard, heck it's impossible, to go wrong with Leupold.

Oregon-Jet · November 21, 2003, 20:29

Go for the Leupold and don't look back, a great scope company that put's their money where their mouth is, one of the Best warrenty on the Planet.....

Tony. · November 22, 2003, 00:52

Thanks guys! I think the decision is made. Leupold it is.

Gunga Din · November 22, 2003, 00:58

I've always wondered how Nikon could really test their scopes adequately, considering they are manufactured in a gunless country.
(My cameras are Nikons.)

November 21, 2003, 15:28	#1
Tony. Registered FALaholic #: 755 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 682	Help me decide Leupold M8 or Nikon Monarch I am trying to decide on a low magnification scope for my 20" Steyr Prohunter in .376 Steyr, I think it would make a great short range dangerous game rifle. I have narrowed the field to the Leupold M8 2.5x20 and the Nikon Monarch 1x20. The Leupold is $179 and the Nikon $159, I normally shy away from cheap glass, but with these two scope I don't think quality is an issue, just cheaper because of the single magnification. Any recomendations?

November 21, 2003, 16:42	#2
Sword of Laban Registered FALaholic #: 8248 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 812	Leupold if you are looking at a scope. 2.5 is at least magnified the 1 X is an unmagnified red dot. Having said this I have an unmagnified 20mm red dot on my G1 and it is fun, just not as accurate for me as the iron sights. Iron I can shoot MOA or MOA plus a bit, redot puts me at around 4 MOA. Funny thing about that is that my red dot is a 3 MOA dot so I am not getting the groups I believe I should be. I am looking for a reliable and economical 4X for my baby right now. QD rings for all kinds of glass fun. __________________ "Butt kicking for goodness!" “When they’re using a mosque to do command and control for insurgents and kill my fellow Marines and soldiers and airmen that are out here — no holds barred, the gloves are off,” said Marine Staff Sgt. Sam Mortimer.

November 21, 2003, 19:27	#4
raeldridge Registered FALaholic #: 3340 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wilmington, OH Posts: 1,557	Leupold, but just from customer loyalty standpoint. sent them a f@$ked up scope I got at yard sale, asked them about getting it repaired. was returned to me within weeks, calibration and test paperwork, new box, darn near new looking. no charge I'll never buy another brand of scope again. __________________ "You wanna dance? Well, then, let's dance." Sgt. R. Gregory "I don't get mad if I just have to waste time gettin' over it." T. Caldwell "You may find me one day dead in a ditch somewhere. But by God, you'll find me in a pile of brass." Tpr. M. Padgett

November 21, 2003, 20:18	#6
Right Side Up @ 1000 MPH Registered FALaholic #: 9286 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,754	Tony, just an FYI. I traded for a Nikon 4-12 Monarch awhile back from a guy on this board. Scope was in good shape when I got it. I put it on my oldest deer rifle. It has Redfield bases and rings on it. I've had about 5 other scopes on this gun, never a problem. I went to the range to sight it in and I couldn't hit paper. Got home, took the scope off, and saw that the rings had crushed the main tube badly and obviously that bent the scope. That's why it wouldn't get on paper before running out of adjustment. I put one of my Leupolds that had been on it before back on. No problemo. Only thing I could figure was the main tube is soft. I'm going to send it back, but I'm doubtful that I'll get any joy out of it as it's technically my boo-boo. I used the same amount of torque on it as I do my Leupolds. It's very hard, heck it's impossible, to go wrong with Leupold. __________________ " I think that this would be the true way to go to paradise; learn the way to Hell in order to flee it". *~Machiavelli~*

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November 21, 2003, 16:52	#3
Tony. Registered FALaholic #: 755 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 682	Thanks for the info. The Nikon I am referring to is a regular duplex reticle.

November 21, 2003, 20:06	#5
nvcdl Registered FALaholic #: 1312 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 995	I just got an M8, nice little scope and not very expensive. Don't see the point of a 1X scope unless it is an Aimpoint.

November 21, 2003, 20:29	#7
Oregon-Jet Registered FALaholic #: 3381 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Eastern Oregon, Blue Mnts Posts: 503	Go for the Leupold and don't look back, a great scope company that put's their money where their mouth is, one of the Best warrenty on the Planet.....

November 22, 2003, 00:52	#8
Tony. Registered FALaholic #: 755 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 682	Thanks guys! I think the decision is made. Leupold it is.

November 22, 2003, 00:58	#9
Gunga Din Registered FALaholic #: 7437 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pgh., PA Posts: 3,853	I've always wondered how Nikon could really test their scopes adequately, considering they are manufactured in a gunless country. (My cameras are Nikons.)