Polytech M 14 s ??

detroit360 · October 19, 2003, 06:15

I saw a Polytech M 14 s and I was wondering about getting one of these, I have heard different opinions on these, some good some bad, but I heard they have good receivers, forged,I thought meybe if the gun was lousy in some other way it could be rebuilt to bring it up to par, what do you all think, is it worth it???

bulletcatchR · October 19, 2003, 08:53

I'm selling one so take my opinion with a grain of salt....
I'm not getting rid of it cause she's a dog,it's cause I got the FAL fever,an Izzy....who knows what next.You be the judge of that decision.

Polytech recievers are forged,if you want to build,the most current reciever options are at Battlerifles.com,a squared away site,IMO.

Chinese bolts are notoriously soft,and you can lose headspace,I got a spare right away,but never shot enough to warrant any swap.I've shot and owned M1A's all my life,my first touch on a battlerifle was a BM59,an M1A E2 was my next....the one 'thing' I never got out of M1A was feeding the NEED to build.

I got this cause it was cheap,and I knew from the start I would be building an E2 Scout,I was gonna chop the E2 stock and bolt on a 'fixed folder stock' 'but' I just never got around to it.As a matter of fact I was gonna chopsaw the sucker and shoot the piss out of it,all the time monitoring my headspace,and only build after it (the bolt) got trashed.I had some issues trying to figure out what I needed to dial in to make sure the pistolgrip was legal,and just plain decided about 8 years ago to wait till the ban expired.(without the folder IDGAF).It's been sitting in the safe,I got an AK(legal folder) to 'blast' with and I never had the $$ to build my second plan,a more expensive HB match rifle.
There are some excellent Garand smiths rebarrelling Polytechs to this day.

If you're gonna build start with a forged reciever,building OR buying you REALLY have to do your HOMEWORK,cause the field is muddied up with all kinds of CRAP PARTS.I've seen some SA that looked worse than my Chinese.

The whole story of how the Chinese got the parts and machines is interesting.When I was young they were practically giving M1As away....

BulletcatchR

detroit360 · October 19, 2003, 10:55

thank you, I appreciate that, Ill check out Battlerifles

dragunov308 · October 19, 2003, 15:22

I'd have to agree with these guys. Ive been thru this whole thing with my own Springfield, Inc. M1A. My take on it is buy the POLY if you plan on rebuilding it. It is a true forged receiver and I have not heard any negative feedback on it alone. As far as the rest of the parts, your guess is as good as mine. My rifle is over ten years old and has alot of GI parts on it. Which is not what is being used now. Some repro parts are good and some are not so good. The only problem that I see is that getting GI parts ain't as easy these days and is expensive. You will quickly get into alot of money in redoing one. It aint like the FAL which you can get premium parts fairly cheap. You would certainly be into it for what alot of good factory rifles cost. If I wanted a good .308 rifle for a decent price I think that I would just buy a DSA std. SA58. I think for the money, the level of quality that you would get and access to cheap mags it is worth it.

16R40 · October 19, 2003, 16:11

if I was to get a M14 clone, my choice would be the SPRINGFIELD M1A1, instead of a chinese copy, with questionable parts.

Powerkicker · October 19, 2003, 19:05

The Polytech M14 is a fine rifle.I've had mine for years and have shot thousands of rounds through it.Headspace has never budged and the gun consistantly shoots 2-3" groups with surplus ball.It has NEVER jammed in all that time. As for "questionable" parts,you will find that new SA's are made with cast parts and bolts and are known to have many problems of their own. The POlytechs get a bad rap because they're not paying gun magazines for advertisement,Springfield is.

mp · October 19, 2003, 19:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Powerkicker
The POlytechs get a bad rap because they're not paying gun magazines for advertisement,Springfield is.

That and the fact they were built by 8 year old kids chained to a machine.

detroit360 · October 19, 2003, 20:50

I have already built 3 good fals G.L. Imbels,love Im, but I want a good M 14, I really like forged receivers though, just a thing with me. I think a M 14 build is more difficult ??

yovinny · October 19, 2003, 23:04

You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger proponent of the Chinese M-14's than myself. That said, you should consider a few things about them before making a decision. They can and most do have "issues" that range from excessive headspace, new out of the box, to minor inconvenience's. The price you pay and how much of the work you can do yourself need to be the deciding factors. Being able to completely inspect the gun first hand and/or acquiring it from someone who can be trusted and knows something about guns, should be at the top of the list also. There are many other things to add to the decision, not the least of which is resale value. Rebuilding a match rifle on one and trying to sell it can be an eye opening experience. In the day, when they sold for 1/3-1/2 the price of the others they were an incredable bargain. For the prices I see them bringing now as compaired to used service grade Springfield guns, you'r probably better off with the Springfield, a "good one" from a known source. Just my $.002 BW, YOOO VINNY

I've had a few and worked on a few more. Right now have a pre-ban Poly that has had 0 problems, shoots 2" groups and functions flawlessly and a post ban Norinco that needed a little work before it did the same. Also have a Poly that's been rebuilt with the best grade parts and a older Springfield made M-21.

Court in Fl · October 20, 2003, 00:29

I have one of the Polytech M 14 s and I'm happy with it.
It's no match gun but it works great and is fun to shoot.
The Chinese mags are well made and last time I checked
not priced to bad.

I put mine in a US M-14 fiberglass stock and I think it helped the accuracy
a little.

Court in Fl.

madecov · October 20, 2003, 09:32

I have a Norinco. It's been gone through by Smith Enetrprise. Love the gun. It's never failed. and is very sccurate

bulletcatchR · October 20, 2003, 12:19

I should have mentioned Smith Enterprises.Their site has a primo primer on the M1A and parts.A public service for all M1A enthusiasts.

http://www.smithenterprise.com/gen_info.htm

I can see their webmaster checking all the hits from FALers,,,he is supposed to make a non-bipod FH for the Izzy HB.

Their flashiders are #1 in my book.

BulletcatchR

yovinny · October 20, 2003, 12:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Court in Fl

The Chinese mags are well made and last time I checked
not priced to bad.

Yes, yes !!! but where did you find some ?? I havent seen any in years except once in awhile on the auctions and overpriced.

Powerkicker · October 20, 2003, 16:40

Quote:

Originally posted by mp

That and the fact they were built by 8 year old kids chained to a machine.

By what mechanism does that make Polytech M14's less effective weapons?

Hootbro · October 20, 2003, 17:02

Quote:

Originally posted by mp

That and the fact they were built by 8 year old kids chained to a machine.

Mighty skilled kids IMHO then. Hopefully the kid making the soft bolts is being flogged as we speak.

These guns have been bought and paid for the last 10 years. Any moralistic crusade is moot.

Court in Fl · October 20, 2003, 17:20

Hello yovinny,

Last time I saw the mags for sale maybe 2 years ago a friend
of mine had a box of about 40 of them
at the Gun Show, I think he was asking around $10.00 each.

I asked him about it a few weeks ago and he said a guy walked up and bought the entire box.

I should have bought them my self.

Court in Fl.

bbgun · October 20, 2003, 18:26

Court in Fl,

I wish you had a bought 'em too!!

I'd given you $15 apiece for some!!

Oh well!

bbgun

762minigun · October 20, 2003, 18:54

Quote:

Originally posted by mp

That and the fact they were built by 8 year old kids chained to a machine.

I see no real problem with this.

We as a nation need to stop worrying about other peoples problems. We have more than enough problems around our part of the world.

**kev** · October 20, 2003, 21:24

Yovinny,......I've got a bunch of the Chinese M14 mags; bought back when they were 'reasonable'. Since I haven't got much in them, I'd be happy to trade them straight across for your FNC mags.

We'd both make out OK, whaddya say?

I too have an early Poly Tech and can't say enough good about it. It did come in with a truly crummy stock on it and the flash hider had been hacked off, but since this was well before the ban and US parts were easy to find, it was put into proper configuration before 'the day'. At the time I still had about a dozen beautiful take-off stocks from Knob Creek. Excellent condition walnut M14 stocks w/hardware and buttplates were available for $5 each down there around that time. Wish I'd filled the truck up with those, too. So, a $5 stock, a $5 USGI mag(at that time)and a flash hider and you were good to go on your US parts count.

Personally, I don't buy into any of the crap you see on-line about these guns/receivers, especially the re-heat treatment garbage. I'm willing to believe that some of the guns might have soft bolts or H/T/S sets, but nobody is getting rich off of re-heat treating these. Anyway, AFAIK and can decipher, there are several different versions of the Chinese guns.

The best are the pre-ban Poly Techs and early guns that had to be neutered for import. They were probably already here when the ban came thru and that's where the bobbed F/H and crummy stocks came in. Mine is one of these. Serial number and Poly Tech is on the heel of the receiver; same placement as a real M14 or Garand. Serial numbers seem to go up to around 2000 or so. Later import Norincos were in the same configuration, but the markings were on the side of the receivers. Had a couple of those at one time too, but they were much rougher guns and didn't compare to the early Poly's. I was happy to sell those for what I had in them, and it wasn't easy or quick to do so either. Later when word got around that the Poly's were far better than the current Norinco's that everyone had to sell, I believe it became common to stamp the Norinco's with Poly Tech. This was around the time of the 'solid' flash hider guns. Anyhow, even tho the later guns might have had some problems and were nowhere near the quality of the early Poly's, they're still pretty decent and well worth the effort to upgrade. We spent a few years hashing this info out over on one of the old M14 forums before it went under and this seems to be the way it was. I know several guys with +/-2000 serial numbered Poly's that wouldn't trade them for two equivilent Springfields, and they haven't had any work done to the guns at all.

gunhead · October 20, 2003, 21:49

"That and the fact they were built by 8 year old kids chained to a machine."

Now these same kids are 18-20 & we're still buying thier crap.
There was a Revelation last week on the TUBE(tv).
Some newscaster just heard about the 1:5 trade deficit with china, DUH, I think its more like 1:100 IMHO!

We better wake up soon

Rich

detroit360 · October 20, 2003, 22:14

Im sold , I think I will get this gun.

yovinny · October 20, 2003, 22:48

Yovinny,......I've got a bunch of the Chinese M14 mags; bought back when they were 'reasonable'. Since I haven't got much in them, I'd be happy to trade them straight across for your FNC mags. We'd both make out OK, whaddya say?

Hey Kev, you'r killing me here

straight across ?? That was my BIG score for the year !! Real FN made ! all steel ! I could probably think up a real good "story" for them, then they'd be worth even more, ask anyone !!

Yea, yea, that's it, see these were the personal mags of the famous soldier of fortune Col. Izzy Dinsky

foxtrot351 · October 21, 2003, 14:14

Hey kev, I have a polytech in the low ser. no. range that I would like to put into a USGI stock. I read somewhere that there is one other USGI part I need, I think it goes on the op rod? Do you know which part it is? Thanks, foxtrot351

**kev** · October 21, 2003, 14:45

No idea. The gun should drop right in to aUSGI stock. Can't see any reason or need to replace any parts. The Chinese M14 clones use metric threads so certain parts like barrels and gas systems don't swap part for part. If you install a USGI F/H you need to use the Chinese castle nut. That's the only issue I'm aware of.

Offctr · October 21, 2003, 16:06

Barrels should swap on chinese receivers the only diffrence is the chinese barrel is staked in place by a set screw-visble on the receiver ring-that the USGI receivers dont use. once you do that everything is back to USGI parts, except the bolt USGI bolts wont fit without modifying the inside heel of the receiver --dont grind on the bolt--. I have put a couple of USGI barrels on Chinese receivers and getting proper headspace is the only issue.

Powerkicker · October 21, 2003, 16:23

Quote:

Originally posted by foxtrot351
Hey kev, I have a polytech in the low ser. no. range that I would like to put into a USGI stock. I read somewhere that there is one other USGI part I need, I think it goes on the op rod? Do you know which part it is? Thanks, foxtrot351

The part that you will need is a new connector lock and pin.This is the dowel that slides into the receiver/ recoil spring guide retaining hole with the smaller pin holding it from falling out.Chicom stocks fit tighter here than GI so the actual pin is shorter.The shorter Chicom pin "may" allow the connector lock to walk out of the side of the receiver under recoil allowing your recoil spring guide to dis-engage.On my Polytech, I simply installed a 1/8" thick wood-stock shim in the right side stock recess of my USGI wood and "voila",the pin is now long enough and I didn't have to modify the rifle in any way.

Also,the hole for the connector lock in the receiver of the chicom rifle is smaller in diameter that GI so you would have to open the hole up a bit to get the GI part installed...Thats why I just built out the stock.

foxtrot351 · October 22, 2003, 14:42

Thanks for the info guys. I'll give the USGI stock a try this weekend. foxtrot351

October 19, 2003, 15:22	#4
dragunov308 Registered FALaholic #: 11848 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: SE Posts: 125	RE: CHICOM M14s I'd have to agree with these guys. Ive been thru this whole thing with my own Springfield, Inc. M1A. My take on it is buy the POLY if you plan on rebuilding it. It is a true forged receiver and I have not heard any negative feedback on it alone. As far as the rest of the parts, your guess is as good as mine. My rifle is over ten years old and has alot of GI parts on it. Which is not what is being used now. Some repro parts are good and some are not so good. The only problem that I see is that getting GI parts ain't as easy these days and is expensive. You will quickly get into alot of money in redoing one. It aint like the FAL which you can get premium parts fairly cheap. You would certainly be into it for what alot of good factory rifles cost. If I wanted a good .308 rifle for a decent price I think that I would just buy a DSA std. SA58. I think for the money, the level of quality that you would get and access to cheap mags it is worth it. __________________ Don't mistake CHANGE for progress...

October 19, 2003, 19:05	#6
Powerkicker Registered FALaholic #: 11684 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 361	The Polytech M14 is a fine rifle.I've had mine for years and have shot thousands of rounds through it.Headspace has never budged and the gun consistantly shoots 2-3" groups with surplus ball.It has NEVER jammed in all that time. As for "questionable" parts,you will find that new SA's are made with cast parts and bolts and are known to have many problems of their own. The POlytechs get a bad rap because they're not paying gun magazines for advertisement,Springfield is. __________________ FALfiles' Resident Swordsman

October 19, 2003, 23:04	#9
yovinny Registered FALaholic #: 7679 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY transplant to central Illinois, Now in Kentucky Posts: 3,411	You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger proponent of the Chinese M-14's than myself. That said, you should consider a few things about them before making a decision. They can and most do have "issues" that range from excessive headspace, new out of the box, to minor inconvenience's. The price you pay and how much of the work you can do yourself need to be the deciding factors. Being able to completely inspect the gun first hand and/or acquiring it from someone who can be trusted and knows something about guns, should be at the top of the list also. There are many other things to add to the decision, not the least of which is resale value. Rebuilding a match rifle on one and trying to sell it can be an eye opening experience. In the day, when they sold for 1/3-1/2 the price of the others they were an incredable bargain. For the prices I see them bringing now as compaired to used service grade Springfield guns, you'r probably better off with the Springfield, a "good one" from a known source. Just my $.002 BW, YOOO VINNY I've had a few and worked on a few more. Right now have a pre-ban Poly that has had 0 problems, shoots 2" groups and functions flawlessly and a post ban Norinco that needed a little work before it did the same. Also have a Poly that's been rebuilt with the best grade parts and a older Springfield made M-21. Last edited by yovinny; October 20, 2003 at 05:21.

October 20, 2003, 09:32	#11
madecov Registered FALaholic #: 6539 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,378	I have a Norinco. It's been gone through by Smith Enetrprise. Love the gun. It's never failed. and is very sccurate __________________ In god we trust........... All others are suspects. There are no problems in life that can't be fixed with High explosives or small arms. $10.00 transfers in the Houston area.

October 20, 2003, 18:26	#17
bbgun Registered FALaholic #: 6000 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 121	Court in Fl, I wish you had a bought 'em too!! I'd given you $15 apiece for some!! Oh well! bbgun __________________ "Defense win championships" Tom Landry

October 19, 2003, 06:15	#1
detroit360 Registered FALaholic #: 7685 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,111	Polytech M 14 s ?? I saw a Polytech M 14 s and I was wondering about getting one of these, I have heard different opinions on these, some good some bad, but I heard they have good receivers, forged,I thought meybe if the gun was lousy in some other way it could be rebuilt to bring it up to par, what do you all think, is it worth it???

October 19, 2003, 08:53	#2
bulletcatchR Registered FALaholic #: 11952 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 'Driftless' WI Posts: 33	I'm selling one so take my opinion with a grain of salt.... I'm not getting rid of it cause she's a dog,it's cause I got the FAL fever,an Izzy....who knows what next.You be the judge of that decision. Polytech recievers are forged,if you want to build,the most current reciever options are at Battlerifles.com,a squared away site,IMO. Chinese bolts are notoriously soft,and you can lose headspace,I got a spare right away,but never shot enough to warrant any swap.I've shot and owned M1A's all my life,my first touch on a battlerifle was a BM59,an M1A E2 was my next....the one 'thing' I never got out of M1A was feeding the NEED to build. I got this cause it was cheap,and I knew from the start I would be building an E2 Scout,I was gonna chop the E2 stock and bolt on a 'fixed folder stock' 'but' I just never got around to it.As a matter of fact I was gonna chopsaw the sucker and shoot the piss out of it,all the time monitoring my headspace,and only build after it (the bolt) got trashed.I had some issues trying to figure out what I needed to dial in to make sure the pistolgrip was legal,and just plain decided about 8 years ago to wait till the ban expired.(without the folder IDGAF).It's been sitting in the safe,I got an AK(legal folder) to 'blast' with and I never had the $$ to build my second plan,a more expensive HB match rifle. There are some excellent Garand smiths rebarrelling Polytechs to this day. If you're gonna build start with a forged reciever,building OR buying you REALLY have to do your HOMEWORK,cause the field is muddied up with all kinds of CRAP PARTS.I've seen some SA that looked worse than my Chinese. The whole story of how the Chinese got the parts and machines is interesting.When I was young they were practically giving M1As away.... BulletcatchR

October 19, 2003, 10:55	#3
detroit360 Registered FALaholic #: 7685 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,111	thank you, I appreciate that, Ill check out Battlerifles

October 19, 2003, 16:11	#5
16R40 Banned TROLL FALaholic #: 8227 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,754	if I was to get a M14 clone, my choice would be the SPRINGFIELD M1A1, instead of a chinese copy, with questionable parts.

October 19, 2003, 20:50	#8
detroit360 Registered FALaholic #: 7685 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,111	I have already built 3 good fals G.L. Imbels,love Im, but I want a good M 14, I really like forged receivers though, just a thing with me. I think a M 14 build is more difficult ??

October 20, 2003, 00:29	#10
Court in Fl Curio & Relic FALaholic #: 5046 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,150	I have one of the Polytech M 14 s and I'm happy with it. It's no match gun but it works great and is fun to shoot. The Chinese mags are well made and last time I checked not priced to bad. I put mine in a US M-14 fiberglass stock and I think it helped the accuracy a little. Court in Fl.

October 20, 2003, 12:19	#12
bulletcatchR Registered FALaholic #: 11952 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 'Driftless' WI Posts: 33	I should have mentioned Smith Enterprises.Their site has a primo primer on the M1A and parts.A public service for all M1A enthusiasts. http://www.smithenterprise.com/gen_info.htm I can see their webmaster checking all the hits from FALers,,,he is supposed to make a non-bipod FH for the Izzy HB. Their flashiders are #1 in my book. BulletcatchR

October 20, 2003, 17:20	#16
Court in Fl Curio & Relic FALaholic #: 5046 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,150	Hello yovinny, Last time I saw the mags for sale maybe 2 years ago a friend of mine had a box of about 40 of them at the Gun Show, I think he was asking around $10.00 each. I asked him about it a few weeks ago and he said a guy walked up and bought the entire box. I should have bought them my self. Court in Fl.

October 20, 2003, 21:24	#19
kev Curio & Relic Contributor FALaholic #: 71 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Indiana and various others Posts: 3,775	Yovinny,......I've got a bunch of the Chinese M14 mags; bought back when they were 'reasonable'. Since I haven't got much in them, I'd be happy to trade them straight across for your FNC mags. We'd both make out OK, whaddya say? I too have an early Poly Tech and can't say enough good about it. It did come in with a truly crummy stock on it and the flash hider had been hacked off, but since this was well before the ban and US parts were easy to find, it was put into proper configuration before 'the day'. At the time I still had about a dozen beautiful take-off stocks from Knob Creek. Excellent condition walnut M14 stocks w/hardware and buttplates were available for $5 each down there around that time. Wish I'd filled the truck up with those, too. So, a $5 stock, a $5 USGI mag(at that time)and a flash hider and you were good to go on your US parts count. Personally, I don't buy into any of the crap you see on-line about these guns/receivers, especially the re-heat treatment garbage. I'm willing to believe that some of the guns might have soft bolts or H/T/S sets, but nobody is getting rich off of re-heat treating these. Anyway, AFAIK and can decipher, there are several different versions of the Chinese guns. The best are the pre-ban Poly Techs and early guns that had to be neutered for import. They were probably already here when the ban came thru and that's where the bobbed F/H and crummy stocks came in. Mine is one of these. Serial number and Poly Tech is on the heel of the receiver; same placement as a real M14 or Garand. Serial numbers seem to go up to around 2000 or so. Later import Norincos were in the same configuration, but the markings were on the side of the receivers. Had a couple of those at one time too, but they were much rougher guns and didn't compare to the early Poly's. I was happy to sell those for what I had in them, and it wasn't easy or quick to do so either. Later when word got around that the Poly's were far better than the current Norinco's that everyone had to sell, I believe it became common to stamp the Norinco's with Poly Tech. This was around the time of the 'solid' flash hider guns. Anyhow, even tho the later guns might have had some problems and were nowhere near the quality of the early Poly's, they're still pretty decent and well worth the effort to upgrade. We spent a few years hashing this info out over on one of the old M14 forums before it went under and this seems to be the way it was. I know several guys with +/-2000 serial numbered Poly's that wouldn't trade them for two equivilent Springfields, and they haven't had any work done to the guns at all. __________________ Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. RUE?

October 20, 2003, 21:49	#20
gunhead Registered FALaholic #: 2820 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Port Charlotte, Florida Posts: 2,395	"That and the fact they were built by 8 year old kids chained to a machine." Now these same kids are 18-20 & we're still buying thier crap. There was a Revelation last week on the TUBE(tv). Some newscaster just heard about the 1:5 trade deficit with china, DUH, I think its more like 1:100 IMHO! We better wake up soon Rich __________________ Gun-Head "Who ever said that Common Sense was so Common?" Last edited by gunhead; October 20, 2003 at 22:23.

October 20, 2003, 22:14	#21
detroit360 Registered FALaholic #: 7685 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,111	Im sold , I think I will get this gun.

October 20, 2003, 22:48	#22
yovinny Registered FALaholic #: 7679 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY transplant to central Illinois, Now in Kentucky Posts: 3,411	Yovinny,......I've got a bunch of the Chinese M14 mags; bought back when they were 'reasonable'. Since I haven't got much in them, I'd be happy to trade them straight across for your FNC mags. We'd both make out OK, whaddya say? Hey Kev, you'r killing me here straight across ?? That was my BIG score for the year !! Real FN made ! all steel ! I could probably think up a real good "story" for them, then they'd be worth even more, ask anyone !! Yea, yea, that's it, see these were the personal mags of the famous soldier of fortune Col. Izzy Dinsky

October 21, 2003, 14:14	#23
foxtrot351 Registered FALaholic #: 8644 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 24	Hey kev, I have a polytech in the low ser. no. range that I would like to put into a USGI stock. I read somewhere that there is one other USGI part I need, I think it goes on the op rod? Do you know which part it is? Thanks, foxtrot351

October 21, 2003, 14:45	#24
kev Curio & Relic Contributor FALaholic #: 71 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Indiana and various others Posts: 3,775	No idea. The gun should drop right in to aUSGI stock. Can't see any reason or need to replace any parts. The Chinese M14 clones use metric threads so certain parts like barrels and gas systems don't swap part for part. If you install a USGI F/H you need to use the Chinese castle nut. That's the only issue I'm aware of. __________________ Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. RUE?

October 21, 2003, 16:06	#25
Offctr Registered FALaholic #: 3326 Join Date: May 2001 Location: PA Posts: 1,228	Barrels should swap on chinese receivers the only diffrence is the chinese barrel is staked in place by a set screw-visble on the receiver ring-that the USGI receivers dont use. once you do that everything is back to USGI parts, except the bolt USGI bolts wont fit without modifying the inside heel of the receiver --dont grind on the bolt--. I have put a couple of USGI barrels on Chinese receivers and getting proper headspace is the only issue. __________________ The 2nd Ammendment -The Original "Homeland Security" Act !

October 22, 2003, 14:42	#27
foxtrot351 Registered FALaholic #: 8644 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 24	Thanks for the info guys. I'll give the USGI stock a try this weekend. foxtrot351

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