Rich@CGW Izzy heavy-barrel carbine

R4 fan · October 04, 2003, 18:20

I just recently received my Israeli FAL build from Rich Saunders of Century Gun Works: Rich@CGW

Please excuse the photos, as I was using a rather poor quality camera. First off, I want to say that Rich was great to deal with, and a pleasure to talk to. He kept me informed of the status of my rifle, and listened to my numerous concerns and requests during this build. Personally, I believe that Rich really goes above and beyond to make sure that the customer is satisfied. I have absolutely no complaints about my rifle, except that it actually looks too nice to shoot (but I will).

Here's the info on the rifle itself and supplied parts:

All new/excellent Israeli heavy barrel kit with open ear gas block (from John Hudgens).

Barrel cut down to 18 inches, just behind the bipod coupler notch in the top of the barrel. Barrel also has an 11 degree recessed target crown.

Furniture stripped and coated with tung oil. Needs some more coats but looks good for now.

Original new Israeli pistol grip.

Israeli light barrel carry handle and semi-auto selector.

Original Israeli bolt with one-piece extractor exchanged for new two-piece extractor bolt.

DSA type-2 receiver (Israeli type-2 lower receiver).

DSA Izzy gas tube.

All metal Duracoated with the satin HK-type black finish.

US parts are the DSA receiver, DSA gas piston, DSA magazine floorplate and a FSE hammer, trigger and sear.

Rifle is heavy, but balances nice. Also balances well using the carry handle.

The only "used" part on this whole rifle is the buttplate washer from an Imbel kit.

I haven't shot the thing yet, but everyone I show it to is amazed. They also can't believe how freakin' heavy it is!

Anyway, here's the photos...

R4 fan · October 04, 2003, 18:23

Included this photo, but it is really poor. The rifle looks 1000% better than this. I definately need a new camera.

madhatter · October 04, 2003, 18:24

more pic.. nice

R4 fan · October 04, 2003, 18:24

R4 fan · October 04, 2003, 18:27

R4 fan · October 04, 2003, 18:34

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R4 fan · October 04, 2003, 18:37

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R4 fan · October 04, 2003, 18:40

...couldn't resist the gas plug Rich.

cadillac · October 04, 2003, 18:58

Wow! His work is really great. Can I borrow that

Did Rich fill in the letters and numbers? Or did you? Beautiful either way!

R4 fan · October 04, 2003, 19:10

Why Cadillac, sure you can borrow it.

I filled in the letters/numbers under Rich's tutelage.

Thanks Rich!

cadillac · October 04, 2003, 19:41

Ok Rich, it's my turn...

cadillac · October 04, 2003, 19:43

R4

I did just noticed the light barrel carry handle. Does that provide a good balance point w/ the short heavy out front?

Rich@CGW · October 04, 2003, 19:46

Hey, That lettering jod did`nt turn out to bad for a rookie

Interested in doing any lettering work on a sublet basis ??

I can send you all of the gas nuts you can handle..
Hows about .10 a peice ?? Thats about the profit margin on one.

Rich@CGW · October 04, 2003, 19:56

Hey, I just noticed the hand cuffs hangin off the bench.

Just Keep those SWAT guys away from it.. They might drop it.

What ya gunna do when they come for you ! Bad Boy! Bad Boy !

masman · October 04, 2003, 20:12

even though i think the idea of a izzy heavy carbine is stupid(call me old fashioned) thats a really sharp looking piece

good job on the detail.

R4 fan · October 04, 2003, 22:18

Cadillac, I was kind of worried about that myself, but the the light barrel carry handle works out great. With the 18 inch heavy-barrel the balance point is exactly where it should be.

Rich, The lettering was fairly easy, except for the "1" on the gas nut. When wiping the paint off, it is easy to just wipe it right out since it's basically a straight line. On the gas nut I used a Q-tip with the swab end cut off at an angle, and applied the paint. Then I just wiped it with a paper towel. It just comes easy for me as I have patience for gun stuff, but not for chores around the house.

No thanks for mass lettering gas nuts. Doing my own was enough.

I showed the rifle to some guys at work, they loved it. I almost fell out of my chair when I read "Bad Boy! Bad Boy!"

That's seating by reservation only.

masman, Thanks for the compliment. I'm old fashioned myself, and prefer original and correct FALs. The Izzy HB carbine is seriously the only "mutt" rifle I really like (not including camo'ed rifles). I tried to keep it all original Israeli parts though, except for the bolt since I wanted a two-piece extractor. It's a heavy rifle that has no real purpose, but I wouldn't trade it for anything. Gotta have at least one "look what I got" rifle.

Plus if I ever get tired of it, I have another new Izzy barrel and bipod assembly if I want to make it original.

madhatter · October 04, 2003, 22:30

that is sweet

**EMDII** · October 04, 2003, 22:38

Rich produces another work of art!

**Hebrew Battle Rifle** · October 04, 2003, 23:32

That is one beautiful rifle.

Just FYI, Krylon is now marketing a new spray paint that is formulated for plastic. It is called FUSION and it really is pretty good stuff. I tried it out on a RAMLINE gunstock and once cured, it produced a very tough finish.

SmokeEater2 · October 05, 2003, 15:54

NICE rifle!!

I like the finish on that
I might just have to paint the kit I got like
this one. HK type paint You say?

cadillac · October 05, 2003, 16:06

Quote:

Originally posted by SmokeEater2
NICE rifle!! I like the finish on that
I might just have to paint the kit I got like
this one. HK type paint You say?

I believe the black finish on the metal of R4's carbine is probably GunKote.

R4 fan · October 05, 2003, 16:15

Nope... not GunKote. I splurged and got *everything* coated inside and out with the semi-gloss Duracoat. The Duracoat came out nice, and compared to some other spray finishes I've seen so far, it looks really good.

Lauer (manufacturers of Duracoat) list the color as Semigloss Black (HK).

cadillac · October 05, 2003, 16:40

I shoulda' known. Duracoat is what Rich used on our "Tiger". It is good stuff.

mkm · October 06, 2003, 22:24

You guys are killin' me with these pics or your Izzy builds, but I'm gonna get you back, real soon. Just wait and see!

R4 fan · October 08, 2003, 12:46

Hopefully I'll be taking the Izzy out this weekend to try her out!

I just wanted to add that I am a left-handed shooter, and the Israeli semi-auto selector is right under my trigger finger in the "fire" position. Not enough to bother me (unless I have a death-grip on the rifle), but I'll have to see when I actually fire it. The nice thing is that the Israeli semi-auto selector is easily manipulated with the trigger finger of a left-handed shooter. I might have to have some more Izzy's built if they turn out to be left-handed friendly.

Silver Fox · October 08, 2003, 13:11

R4,

I saw the same carbine heavy barrel you did and I too have been inspired. I am going to build one ugly heavy carbine, just the opposite of yours. Thanks for the pics they have fueled my desire even more.

SF-

R4 fan · October 08, 2003, 13:35

Silver Fox,

Thanks for the kind words.

I saw Mr. Pogo's Izzy HB carbine photos numerous times, and I just knew that I needed one. I just didn't care for the Smith muzzle brake. With the 18 inch barrel, it looks good and a muzzle device could always be added later. As heavy as this front end is, I seriously doubt I'd ever need any type of muzzle attachment.

Also, Rich does fantastic work. The rifle with the black semi-gloss finish looks spectacular. My photos above are really terrible. I took over 20 photos and only kept these. I think the photo of the close-up of the front end is the only one that comes close to the actual color of the rifle.

**BUFF** · October 09, 2003, 03:17

That is a nice rifle. I have a gen-youuu-whine Hesse-made Izzy HB carbine with a Hesse brake. It looks a lot like yours only all beat up!

They are a pain to tote around but they can be fired very rapidly. With the brake on mine, muzzle rise is zilch. The HB keeps the gun from heating up as fast, but then it takes longer for it to cool down!

They would make great pin guns.

*Templar* · October 10, 2003, 06:52

WOW!!!!

R4 and Rich, beautiful rifle. I can't wait for my Para carbine to get back to me! Seeing those pics makes me shake!

R4 fan · October 10, 2003, 10:38

Hey Templar,

Remember discussing the Arsenal Classic, as compared to the quality of the Galils? Well this rifle is in the same class. It is cosmetically perfect, and actually looks too good to shoot!

Using a quality parts kit, I'd rather have one of Rich's builds than a pre-ban. I've been to a lot of gun shows, and I've seen a lot of rifles that don't even come close to mine. This Izzy makes my DSA SA58 look like a CAI (Century Arms International) rifle!

Rich does *excellent* work, and is exceptional to deal with.

*Templar* · October 10, 2003, 15:57

Thanks R4, that makes me feel really good.

I sent Rich my pre-ban Springfield Armory SAR-48 Para, the one with a 21" barrel, along with a new Argie 21" barrel (closed ear block, chrome lined) that he was going to cut down to 18" and install, along with a refinnish and a folding cocking handle.

Can't wait to get it back.....should hopefully be sometime next week.

You're rifle may look too good to shoot, but shoot the damn thing. A bigger crime would be not shooting it!

R4 fan · October 11, 2003, 21:53

Well, I had to work all day today, but I managed to go shoot my rifle before I headed home. First off, I had the Izzy for a week, and completely dissassembled and degreased it. I then lubed everything including the gas piston/tube with a light coat of Mil-Comm MC-2500 oil. I should have wiped the gas system down before firing, but oh well.

The gravel pit I went to was filled with dirt-bikes, so I went to another small county range mostly used by hunters for sighting in their deer season rifles. The rifle range is approximately 25 yards, and scattered with shot-up targets and such. I loaded up some Radway Green, and shot about 100 rounds off and on, trying to not let the barrel get too hot. I had to set the rifle down on a nylon guncase, and didn't want to melt it.

I had ZERO malfunctions (gas setting on 4), and at this range the rifle was deadly on left behind pumpkins, clay pigeons and other junk. The rifle was pleasant to shoot, but heavy. Shooting with the sling wrapped around your arm made the gun more pleasant to shoot offhand. The selector didn't even bother me shooting left-handed.

The rifle started not being able to extract the spent brass casing, or the bolt/bolt carrier wouldn't fully lock up for the next shot. I also had some feeding problems with this magazine I was using (other 3 were okay). I'm not exactly sure, as (around 120 rounds by now) I wasn't really paying attention, just having a blast shooting. I turned the gas setting to 3 1/2, and resumed firing. No more problems at all. I shot about 80 more rounds without a hiccup and wish I'd brought more. The Duracoat had some *slight* brass kisses but no damage to the finish.

Overall this rifle is great to shoot, even though it's a little heavy. Rich did a great job as this gun runs flawlessly. Especially since the entire gas system was wet and I didn't wipe it down before firing. Hardly any recoil and almost zero muzzle flip. I agree with Buff that this rifle would make a great pin gun. I was blasting off 20 rounds as soon as I could regain sight picture, which was quick. I originally had this rifle built as a novelty/safe queen, but this Izzy will be shot regularly! If you've been thinking about building a heavy barrel carbine, DO IT!

I will definately be having some more FALs built by Rich in the future.

**Andy the Aussie** · October 11, 2003, 23:23

Damn I wish I could find on of these laying on my desk at work...!!!!!!

Great looking cannon R4.

Andy

R4 fan · October 16, 2003, 12:58

Thanks Andy. It's definately a cannon (or weighs as much as one).

R4 fan · October 23, 2003, 17:43

Here's a photo of my rifle (on top) as compared to George Gouger Izzy HB carbine (on bottom), which I got my idea from. Everything is basically the same, except I didn't want a Smith brake on mine, and got a target crown instead. I included this side-by-side comparison pic for those that may want to have one of these built. It took me forever to decide whether I wanted a muzzle brake on my rifle or not, and had no reference photos to help me decide.

Rooster · October 23, 2003, 18:06

Thanks for the consideration R4 fan. I will be building my Izzy here in the near future hopefully.

Rooster · October 23, 2003, 20:14

Post fixed, thanks for the heads up.

milhol · October 24, 2003, 09:14

R4 I think you have done quite well for yourself, Rich obviously does good work.

October 04, 2003, 18:24	#3
madhatter Registered FALaholic #: 1822 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: woodbridge,va Posts: 317	more pic.. nice __________________ "But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" asked Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." --Lewis Carroll

October 04, 2003, 18:58	#9
cadillac Registered FALaholic #: 3235 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lincoln County, MT Posts: 3,495	Wow! His work is really great. Can I borrow that Did Rich fill in the letters and numbers? Or did you? Beautiful either way! __________________ United We Stand - Falaholics One and All

October 04, 2003, 19:10	#10
R4 fan Registered FALaholic #: 1442 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,581	Why Cadillac, sure you can borrow it. I filled in the letters/numbers under Rich's tutelage. Thanks Rich! __________________ Are you a good person? http://www.whatstandard.com http://www.goodpersontest.com

October 04, 2003, 19:41	#11
cadillac Registered FALaholic #: 3235 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lincoln County, MT Posts: 3,495	Ok Rich, it's my turn... __________________ United We Stand - Falaholics One and All

October 04, 2003, 19:43	#12
cadillac Registered FALaholic #: 3235 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lincoln County, MT Posts: 3,495	R4 I did just noticed the light barrel carry handle. Does that provide a good balance point w/ the short heavy out front? __________________ United We Stand - Falaholics One and All Last edited by cadillac; October 04, 2003 at 20:02.

October 04, 2003, 19:46	#13
Rich@CGW Registered FALaholic #: 167 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Gardnerville , NV. Near Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,826	Hey, That lettering jod did`nt turn out to bad for a rookie Interested in doing any lettering work on a sublet basis ?? I can send you all of the gas nuts you can handle.. Hows about .10 a peice ?? Thats about the profit margin on one. __________________ Will work for cash & pine nuts

October 04, 2003, 19:56	#14
Rich@CGW Registered FALaholic #: 167 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Gardnerville , NV. Near Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,826	Hey, I just noticed the hand cuffs hangin off the bench. Just Keep those SWAT guys away from it.. They might drop it. What ya gunna do when they come for you ! Bad Boy! Bad Boy ! __________________ Will work for cash & pine nuts

October 04, 2003, 20:12	#15
masman Registered FALaholic #: 781 Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 5,653	even though i think the idea of a izzy heavy carbine is stupid(call me old fashioned) thats a really sharp looking piece good job on the detail. __________________ somethings wrong with the world when the best rapper is white.the best golfer is black.the french think that the us is arrogant and the germans don't want to go to war

October 04, 2003, 22:18	#16
R4 fan Registered FALaholic #: 1442 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,581	Cadillac, I was kind of worried about that myself, but the the light barrel carry handle works out great. With the 18 inch heavy-barrel the balance point is exactly where it should be. Rich, The lettering was fairly easy, except for the "1" on the gas nut. When wiping the paint off, it is easy to just wipe it right out since it's basically a straight line. On the gas nut I used a Q-tip with the swab end cut off at an angle, and applied the paint. Then I just wiped it with a paper towel. It just comes easy for me as I have patience for gun stuff, but not for chores around the house. No thanks for mass lettering gas nuts. Doing my own was enough. I showed the rifle to some guys at work, they loved it. I almost fell out of my chair when I read "Bad Boy! Bad Boy!" That's seating by reservation only. masman, Thanks for the compliment. I'm old fashioned myself, and prefer original and correct FALs. The Izzy HB carbine is seriously the only "mutt" rifle I really like (not including camo'ed rifles). I tried to keep it all original Israeli parts though, except for the bolt since I wanted a two-piece extractor. It's a heavy rifle that has no real purpose, but I wouldn't trade it for anything. Gotta have at least one "look what I got" rifle. Plus if I ever get tired of it, I have another new Izzy barrel and bipod assembly if I want to make it original. __________________ Are you a good person? http://www.whatstandard.com http://www.goodpersontest.com Last edited by R4 fan; October 20, 2003 at 15:42.

October 04, 2003, 22:30	#17
madhatter Registered FALaholic #: 1822 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: woodbridge,va Posts: 317	that is sweet __________________ "But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" asked Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." --Lewis Carroll

October 04, 2003, 22:38	#18
EMDII Evil Moderator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 6 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 13,971	Rich produces another work of art! __________________ "The Spartans do not enquire how many enemy there are. The SPartans merely enquire WHERE they are." E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II 1*

October 04, 2003, 23:32	#19
Hebrew Battle Rifle Horses Ass Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 5777 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Arkansas Posts: 6,812	That is one beautiful rifle. Just FYI, Krylon is now marketing a new spray paint that is formulated for plastic. It is called FUSION and it really is pretty good stuff. I tried it out on a RAMLINE gunstock and once cured, it produced a very tough finish. __________________ THANK YOU JESUS

October 05, 2003, 15:54	#20
SmokeEater2 Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 10990 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Arkansas Posts: 3,296	NICE rifle!! I like the finish on that I might just have to paint the kit I got like this one. HK type paint You say? __________________ "A man who is good enough to shed his blood for his country is good enough to be given a square deal afterwards." ~ President Theodore Roosevelt Welcome to New Zimbabwe, Previously known as the United States of America.

October 05, 2003, 16:15	#22
R4 fan Registered FALaholic #: 1442 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,581	Nope... not GunKote. I splurged and got everything coated inside and out with the semi-gloss Duracoat. The Duracoat came out nice, and compared to some other spray finishes I've seen so far, it looks really good. Lauer (manufacturers of Duracoat) list the color as Semigloss Black (HK). __________________ Are you a good person? http://www.whatstandard.com http://www.goodpersontest.com Last edited by R4 fan; October 05, 2003 at 16:36.

October 05, 2003, 16:40	#23
cadillac Registered FALaholic #: 3235 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lincoln County, MT Posts: 3,495	I shoulda' known. Duracoat is what Rich used on our "Tiger". It is good stuff. __________________ United We Stand - Falaholics One and All

October 06, 2003, 22:24	#24
mkm Registered FALaholic #: 10975 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MS Posts: 24	You guys are killin' me with these pics or your Izzy builds, but I'm gonna get you back, real soon. Just wait and see!

October 08, 2003, 12:46	#25
R4 fan Registered FALaholic #: 1442 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,581	Hopefully I'll be taking the Izzy out this weekend to try her out! I just wanted to add that I am a left-handed shooter, and the Israeli semi-auto selector is right under my trigger finger in the "fire" position. Not enough to bother me (unless I have a death-grip on the rifle), but I'll have to see when I actually fire it. The nice thing is that the Israeli semi-auto selector is easily manipulated with the trigger finger of a left-handed shooter. I might have to have some more Izzy's built if they turn out to be left-handed friendly. __________________ Are you a good person? http://www.whatstandard.com http://www.goodpersontest.com

October 08, 2003, 13:11	#26
Silver Fox Registered FALaholic #: 7481 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 556	R4, I saw the same carbine heavy barrel you did and I too have been inspired. I am going to build one ugly heavy carbine, just the opposite of yours. Thanks for the pics they have fueled my desire even more. SF- __________________ http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2819.png When Russia practiced censorship, we called it "censorship". Here we call it political correctness.

October 08, 2003, 13:35	#27
R4 fan Registered FALaholic #: 1442 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,581	Silver Fox, Thanks for the kind words. I saw Mr. Pogo's Izzy HB carbine photos numerous times, and I just knew that I needed one. I just didn't care for the Smith muzzle brake. With the 18 inch barrel, it looks good and a muzzle device could always be added later. As heavy as this front end is, I seriously doubt I'd ever need any type of muzzle attachment. Also, Rich does fantastic work. The rifle with the black semi-gloss finish looks spectacular. My photos above are really terrible. I took over 20 photos and only kept these. I think the photo of the close-up of the front end is the only one that comes close to the actual color of the rifle. __________________ Are you a good person? http://www.whatstandard.com http://www.goodpersontest.com Last edited by R4 fan; May 27, 2007 at 20:37.

October 09, 2003, 03:17	#28
BUFF Old Fart Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 789 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 7,141	That is a nice rifle. I have a gen-youuu-whine Hesse-made Izzy HB carbine with a Hesse brake. It looks a lot like yours only all beat up! They are a pain to tote around but they can be fired very rapidly. With the brake on mine, muzzle rise is zilch. The HB keeps the gun from heating up as fast, but then it takes longer for it to cool down! They would make great pin guns. __________________ BUFF

October 10, 2003, 06:52	#29
Templar Registered FALaholic #: 3225 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Capital of the Confederacy Posts: 443	WOW!!!! R4 and Rich, beautiful rifle. I can't wait for my Para carbine to get back to me! Seeing those pics makes me shake! __________________ "For so long as a hundred of us remain alive, we will never in any degree be subject to the Dominion of the English, since it is not for Glory, or Riches, or Honor we fight, but for Liberty Alone which no Good man loses but with his Life." Declaration of Arbroath 1320.

October 10, 2003, 10:38	#30
R4 fan Registered FALaholic #: 1442 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,581	Hey Templar, Remember discussing the Arsenal Classic, as compared to the quality of the Galils? Well this rifle is in the same class. It is cosmetically perfect, and actually looks too good to shoot! Using a quality parts kit, I'd rather have one of Rich's builds than a pre-ban. I've been to a lot of gun shows, and I've seen a lot of rifles that don't even come close to mine. This Izzy makes my DSA SA58 look like a CAI (Century Arms International) rifle! Rich does excellent work, and is exceptional to deal with. __________________ Are you a good person? http://www.whatstandard.com http://www.goodpersontest.com

October 10, 2003, 15:57	#31
Templar Registered FALaholic #: 3225 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Capital of the Confederacy Posts: 443	Thanks R4, that makes me feel really good. I sent Rich my pre-ban Springfield Armory SAR-48 Para, the one with a 21" barrel, along with a new Argie 21" barrel (closed ear block, chrome lined) that he was going to cut down to 18" and install, along with a refinnish and a folding cocking handle. Can't wait to get it back.....should hopefully be sometime next week. You're rifle may look too good to shoot, but shoot the damn thing. A bigger crime would be not shooting it! __________________ "For so long as a hundred of us remain alive, we will never in any degree be subject to the Dominion of the English, since it is not for Glory, or Riches, or Honor we fight, but for Liberty Alone which no Good man loses but with his Life." Declaration of Arbroath 1320.

October 11, 2003, 21:53	#32
R4 fan Registered FALaholic #: 1442 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,581	Well, I had to work all day today, but I managed to go shoot my rifle before I headed home. First off, I had the Izzy for a week, and completely dissassembled and degreased it. I then lubed everything including the gas piston/tube with a light coat of Mil-Comm MC-2500 oil. I should have wiped the gas system down before firing, but oh well. The gravel pit I went to was filled with dirt-bikes, so I went to another small county range mostly used by hunters for sighting in their deer season rifles. The rifle range is approximately 25 yards, and scattered with shot-up targets and such. I loaded up some Radway Green, and shot about 100 rounds off and on, trying to not let the barrel get too hot. I had to set the rifle down on a nylon guncase, and didn't want to melt it. I had ZERO malfunctions (gas setting on 4), and at this range the rifle was deadly on left behind pumpkins, clay pigeons and other junk. The rifle was pleasant to shoot, but heavy. Shooting with the sling wrapped around your arm made the gun more pleasant to shoot offhand. The selector didn't even bother me shooting left-handed. The rifle started not being able to extract the spent brass casing, or the bolt/bolt carrier wouldn't fully lock up for the next shot. I also had some feeding problems with this magazine I was using (other 3 were okay). I'm not exactly sure, as (around 120 rounds by now) I wasn't really paying attention, just having a blast shooting. I turned the gas setting to 3 1/2, and resumed firing. No more problems at all. I shot about 80 more rounds without a hiccup and wish I'd brought more. The Duracoat had some slight brass kisses but no damage to the finish. Overall this rifle is great to shoot, even though it's a little heavy. Rich did a great job as this gun runs flawlessly. Especially since the entire gas system was wet and I didn't wipe it down before firing. Hardly any recoil and almost zero muzzle flip. I agree with Buff that this rifle would make a great pin gun. I was blasting off 20 rounds as soon as I could regain sight picture, which was quick. I originally had this rifle built as a novelty/safe queen, but this Izzy will be shot regularly! If you've been thinking about building a heavy barrel carbine, DO IT! I will definately be having some more FALs built by Rich in the future. __________________ Are you a good person? http://www.whatstandard.com http://www.goodpersontest.com

October 11, 2003, 23:23	#33
Andy the Aussie Dinosaur Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 216 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Down Under Posts: 12,727	Damn I wish I could find on of these laying on my desk at work...!!!!!! Great looking cannon R4. Andy

October 16, 2003, 12:58	#34
R4 fan Registered FALaholic #: 1442 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,581	Thanks Andy. It's definately a cannon (or weighs as much as one). __________________ Are you a good person? http://www.whatstandard.com http://www.goodpersontest.com

October 23, 2003, 18:06	#36
Rooster Banned (Temp) FALaholic #: 9328 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: US Posts: 4,868	Thanks for the consideration R4 fan. I will be building my Izzy here in the near future hopefully. Last edited by Rooster; October 23, 2003 at 20:13.

October 23, 2003, 20:14	#37
Rooster Banned (Temp) FALaholic #: 9328 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: US Posts: 4,868	Post fixed, thanks for the heads up.

October 24, 2003, 09:14	#38
milhol Registered FALaholic #: 4692 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: South Australia Posts: 356	R4 I think you have done quite well for yourself, Rich obviously does good work. __________________ www.australianguerrilla.com www.mysheaths.com

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