80% and less castings/forgings...

XeroSygnal · November 21, 2002, 06:25

Sorry for the different topic, but I didn't want to hijack the thread about the 80% FAL castings. I was curious about how one goes about having a 80% or less receiver finished off? Reason I ask is that my home state is very anal about what handguns they allow sold/imported into the state. In particular, we can't get new 1911-types here. So, I wondered if having an 80% 1911 frame finished up would be a possible "loophole". Particularly, what I'd like to know is:

Do I have to do the remaining 20% myself or can I get a machine shop to do the rest?

If I can get a machine shop to do it, does that shop have to be in the same state?

If a machine shop can do it, what sort of information (plans? blueprints?) would they need to do the job correctly.

HD99FXR3 · November 21, 2002, 07:54

i think you must do the work. if you have a machine shop do it. that may constitute manufacturing, which they would need a FFL. don't know class or type. i may be wrong. and if i am somebody will chime in.

medicmike · November 21, 2002, 11:39

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Do I have to do the remaining 20% myself or can I get a machine shop to do the rest?

You have to do the work yourself. Another person may assist you but you have to be present through the process. If another person finishes it for you then it will have to be a manufacturer and paperwork will have to be generated. An AR15 or 1911 80% lower ban be finished with a drill press, Dremel, and some ingenuity. A FAL reciever is going to require a lot mor sophisticated tooling (milling machine and specialized cutters).

XeroSygnal · November 21, 2002, 18:20

Thanks for the replies and for clearing that up for me. Don't suppose anyone in the New England area would like to help me finish an 80% 1911 receiver then?

Don't own one yet, but will purchase one once I've got a little more confidence that I would be able to complete the job without screwing up.

I've got a dremel... Can probably get my hands on a drill press. Don't know how much ingenuity I have though. lol... Is there some directions somewhere on the web or via a book that would explain how to perform the remaining 20% of the work?

chuck1 · November 21, 2002, 18:51

I beleive that the 80% 1911 frames actually need very little work from what I have read (haven't worked on one yet personally).
If you check out AR15.com in the build it your self section and look in the arcives there are quite a few people who have finishee them. The slots for the slide and some hand fitting is about it.
Don't know about being legal and all if they are picky but they should't be too hard to finish.
One guy even made a mill of sorts with a dremel tool on a sliding bed to cut his.

!!

November 21, 2002, 06:25	#1
XeroSygnal Registered FALaholic #: 2030 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 238	80% and less castings/forgings... Sorry for the different topic, but I didn't want to hijack the thread about the 80% FAL castings. I was curious about how one goes about having a 80% or less receiver finished off? Reason I ask is that my home state is very anal about what handguns they allow sold/imported into the state. In particular, we can't get new 1911-types here. So, I wondered if having an 80% 1911 frame finished up would be a possible "loophole". Particularly, what I'd like to know is: Do I have to do the remaining 20% myself or can I get a machine shop to do the rest? If I can get a machine shop to do it, does that shop have to be in the same state? If a machine shop can do it, what sort of information (plans? blueprints?) would they need to do the job correctly.

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November 21, 2002, 07:54	#2
HD99FXR3 Registered FALaholic #: 5260 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,245	i think you must do the work. if you have a machine shop do it. that may constitute manufacturing, which they would need a FFL. don't know class or type. i may be wrong. and if i am somebody will chime in.

November 21, 2002, 18:20	#4
XeroSygnal Registered FALaholic #: 2030 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 238	Thanks for the replies and for clearing that up for me. Don't suppose anyone in the New England area would like to help me finish an 80% 1911 receiver then? Don't own one yet, but will purchase one once I've got a little more confidence that I would be able to complete the job without screwing up. I've got a dremel... Can probably get my hands on a drill press. Don't know how much ingenuity I have though. lol... Is there some directions somewhere on the web or via a book that would explain how to perform the remaining 20% of the work?

November 21, 2002, 18:51	#5
chuck1 Registered FALaholic #: 303 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: AZ/kali Posts: 290	I beleive that the 80% 1911 frames actually need very little work from what I have read (haven't worked on one yet personally). If you check out AR15.com in the build it your self section and look in the arcives there are quite a few people who have finishee them. The slots for the slide and some hand fitting is about it. Don't know about being legal and all if they are picky but they should't be too hard to finish. One guy even made a mill of sorts with a dremel tool on a sliding bed to cut his. !!