Colors for letters

Potsqually · October 23, 2002, 01:03

Ok, I know white and red but are the fire and auto letters the only ones that are red on a g1?

jasonfb · October 23, 2002, 10:17

I don't know if this counts. . .
My G1 came with a muzzle attachment that has a red "AUF" and such. But it is not attached to the G1 nor will it ever be.

FAL guy · October 23, 2002, 11:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Potsqually
Ok, I know white and red but are the fire and auto letters the only ones that are red on a g1?

Gas Plug if so marked, grenade mark is red.....IIRC

Potsqually · October 23, 2002, 13:05

Well, I screwed the pooch. I tried the Testors paint method and used acetone to clean the letters. The dot matrix style lettering on a NGL Imbel receiver doesnt seem to want to take paint well or at least it isn't deep enuf to retain it while wiping the excess. I tried to let it skin and resulted in dim paint in and around the letters.

One thing I did that is suspect is using acetone to sipe off the excess. I think this just evaporated quickly resulting in the paint that was smeared around the letters to dry quicker.

Should I have used thinner?

Pots

FAL guy · October 23, 2002, 14:50

If you haven't tried Brownell's enamal sticks give them a go. Looks like a large crayon that you fill in the numbers and letters with. Wipe off the excess with mineral oil and let it dry.

Ronnie · October 23, 2002, 15:37

Pots just mentioned that his NGL Imbel has dot matrix print on the receiver. That sounds like one of those carbide tipped inscribers.

The GL's have roll stamped lettering. I'm wondering if NGL is truely Imbel. Imbel would roll stamp whether the gear logo is affixed or not.

I smell a rat.

Ronnie

headWound · October 23, 2002, 15:49

In Gunplumber's video, he shows some steps to go through with each receiver to make assembly easier.

He's working on an Imbel NGL receiver, and points out to the camera how there's dot matrix ingraving on the reveicer that has left the surface very rough. He proceeds to sand down the engraving to make it smooth but still readable.

Looks like the Imbel NGLs are dot matrix engraved, but the gear logo ones are the roll stamped lettering.

medicmike · October 23, 2002, 16:08

Quote:

If you haven't tried Brownell's enamal sticks give them a go. Looks like a large crayon that you fill in the numbers and letters with. Wipe off the excess with mineral oil and let it dry.

That's the way I have been doing it with great results!

NOTQUITEMUSASHI · October 23, 2002, 16:20

for what it is worth, my 2002 marked gl imbel is lettered in dots. looks like it was done by a different font than the PAC Import lettering.

Potsqually · October 23, 2002, 21:55

Quote:

Originally posted by headWound
In Gunplumber's video, he shows some steps to go through with each receiver to make assembly easier.

He's working on an Imbel NGL receiver, and points out to the camera how there's dot matrix ingraving on the reveicer that has left the surface very rough. He proceeds to sand down the engraving to make it smooth but still readable.

Looks like the Imbel NGLs are dot matrix engraved, but the gear logo ones are the roll stamped lettering.

Yeah, I did just that, sanded down the high spots and it looks very clean. Gonna watch him do that again as I will probably have to reblast and park to get rid of the paint smudge. It's not bad but I know it's there

It can't be that hard I just have to figure what I did wrong.

headWound · October 24, 2002, 10:31

Pots: I appologize for not being very specific...I posted that description to try and squish a rumor of 'phony Imbel NGL receivers' as quickly as possible. I re-read what I posted and I didn't mean it to be as snotty as it must have read like! I'm really in no position to give advice...your rifle looks way better than mine (mine is still a kit awaiting the next paycheck)!

The dot matrix lettering must be a nightmare to try and paint in. Is it SOP that it be painted along with the selector switch and sight markings?

Potsqually · October 24, 2002, 11:42

Quote:

Originally posted by headWound
Pots: I appologize for not being very specific...I posted that description to try and squish a rumor of 'phony Imbel NGL receivers' as quickly as possible. I re-read what I posted and I didn't mean it to be as snotty as it must have read like! I'm really in no position to give advice...your rifle looks way better than mine (mine is still a kit awaiting the next paycheck)!

The dot matrix lettering must be a nightmare to try and paint in. Is it SOP that it be painted along with the selector switch and sight markings?

No offense taken, as far as SOP I have no idea. This is the first time I have worried about the paint so I wasn't sure where to paint or not to paint. But Mark makes it look all too easy in his video, well, he makes everything look easy in his video.

Pots

headWound · October 24, 2002, 14:50

I know what you mean! Mark does make it look easy...

I think that's how you know you're dealing with an expert -- they make what they do look easy!

orca · October 24, 2002, 22:12

what is the actual namr of the enamel sticks so I can find it in my Brownell catalog? TIA, orca

Potsqually · October 24, 2002, 22:39

Quote:

Originally posted by orca
what is the actual namr of the enamel sticks so I can find it in my Brownell catalog? TIA, orca

Just type enamel stick in the search.... oops you said your catalogue. Damn, Ted has me doin' it now

Sorry I can't stand myself sometimes either

Pots

medicmike · October 25, 2002, 07:28

The actual name of the product is "Lacquer Stik"
This link should get get you there http://www.brownells.com/Product/pro...1&CategoryID=0

Wolff · October 25, 2002, 13:57

Pots - There is a small hash mark, in between the front sight protective wings that is used as an indicator for your front sight setting, this is usually marked in red also.

Potsqually · October 25, 2002, 21:49

Great Wolff, thanks, I did not know that!

Radio · October 25, 2002, 22:17

Neither did I!!!

Normally I just marked the "Fire" in red, everything else in white. I DON'T mark the "Auto" positon, just my thing. Testor's modeling paint, acetone (got plenty for parking as it is), careful hand, no problemo.

I don't have any dot-matrix receivers, just the real stuff. Even so, with such crappy starting material I personally wouldn't be trying to highlight it, anyway.

--Radio

JoeBud · October 26, 2002, 10:24

Well, I think my NGL ,dot-matrix, is it really Imbel made, not the "real stuff", imported by Century receiver looks just fine filled in with white oil pastel. All I care about is that when I point it down range and pull the trigger it goes bang and hits where I am aiming. The last thing I'm thinking about at the range is how nice the right side of my receiver looks.

Radio · October 26, 2002, 11:41

My gosh, look at all that stuff! It's like a... a... a RUGER!!

But it's also an FAL so of course we love it.

I take back my "real stuff" comment, it wasn't intended disparagingly. I was talking about the original roll-stamp GL IMBELs before they changed the lettering and language. While it looks like you got good results coloring your lettering, JoeBud, I don't highlight PAC's dot matrix importer markings or the serial number but only the Gear Logo and "IMBEL Fabrica De Itajuba - Brasil" (note the "s" instead of "z" in "Brasil"). Also the "Fz SA 7,62" on the left side. (Funny how they use a comma instead of a period.) On my DSAs, I paint in their logo and "LK BARRINGTON, IL" on the right and "SA 58 308 CAL" on the left, but (again) not the serial number. (Like to keep a low profile in some respects.) Incidentally I had a hard time filling in one of the DSA logos, they're not stamped very deeply on my receivers.

--Radio

Atarget · October 26, 2002, 17:23

Jusy a side note.
You can buy these laquer stix at a local tool supply store.There made by dixon and are the same as the Brownell's but no shipping cost.One stix will last most of us for a couple years,they come in a few colours ,all that we use on fals.HtH

October 23, 2002, 01:03	#1
Potsqually Registered FALaholic #: 6923 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland, Tx Posts: 435	Colors for letters Ok, I know white and red but are the fire and auto letters the only ones that are red on a g1? __________________ I FAL therefore I am! * <a TX-FNFAL</a> - A Brigade of One * YITBOS

October 23, 2002, 13:05	#4
Potsqually Registered FALaholic #: 6923 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland, Tx Posts: 435	Well, I screwed the pooch. I tried the Testors paint method and used acetone to clean the letters. The dot matrix style lettering on a NGL Imbel receiver doesnt seem to want to take paint well or at least it isn't deep enuf to retain it while wiping the excess. I tried to let it skin and resulted in dim paint in and around the letters. One thing I did that is suspect is using acetone to sipe off the excess. I think this just evaporated quickly resulting in the paint that was smeared around the letters to dry quicker. Should I have used thinner? Pots __________________ I FAL therefore I am! * <a TX-FNFAL</a> - A Brigade of One * YITBOS

October 23, 2002, 15:37	#6
Ronnie Registered FALaholic #: 7146 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clarkston, MI Posts: 41	Pots just mentioned that his NGL Imbel has dot matrix print on the receiver. That sounds like one of those carbide tipped inscribers. The GL's have roll stamped lettering. I'm wondering if NGL is truely Imbel. Imbel would roll stamp whether the gear logo is affixed or not. I smell a rat. Ronnie __________________ Carlos the Jackal was here.

October 25, 2002, 07:28	#16
medicmike Registered FALaholic #: 3183 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 2,261	The actual name of the product is "Lacquer Stik" This link should get get you there http://www.brownells.com/Product/pro...1&CategoryID=0 __________________ "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here." Captain John Parker at Lexington Green

October 25, 2002, 21:49	#18
Potsqually Registered FALaholic #: 6923 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland, Tx Posts: 435	Great Wolff, thanks, I did not know that! __________________ I FAL therefore I am! * <a TX-FNFAL</a> - A Brigade of One * YITBOS

October 23, 2002, 10:17	#2
jasonfb Registered FALaholic #: 7419 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: denile Posts: 74	I don't know if this counts. . . My G1 came with a muzzle attachment that has a red "AUF" and such. But it is not attached to the G1 nor will it ever be.

October 23, 2002, 14:50	#5
FAL guy Registered FALaholic #: 4319 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 2,142	If you haven't tried Brownell's enamal sticks give them a go. Looks like a large crayon that you fill in the numbers and letters with. Wipe off the excess with mineral oil and let it dry.

October 23, 2002, 15:49	#7
headWound Registered FALaholic #: 7718 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 110	In Gunplumber's video, he shows some steps to go through with each receiver to make assembly easier. He's working on an Imbel NGL receiver, and points out to the camera how there's dot matrix ingraving on the reveicer that has left the surface very rough. He proceeds to sand down the engraving to make it smooth but still readable. Looks like the Imbel NGLs are dot matrix engraved, but the gear logo ones are the roll stamped lettering.

October 23, 2002, 16:20	#9
NOTQUITEMUSASHI Registered FALaholic #: 7231 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2	for what it is worth, my 2002 marked gl imbel is lettered in dots. looks like it was done by a different font than the PAC Import lettering.

October 24, 2002, 10:31	#11
headWound Registered FALaholic #: 7718 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 110	Pots: I appologize for not being very specific...I posted that description to try and squish a rumor of 'phony Imbel NGL receivers' as quickly as possible. I re-read what I posted and I didn't mean it to be as snotty as it must have read like! I'm really in no position to give advice...your rifle looks way better than mine (mine is still a kit awaiting the next paycheck)! The dot matrix lettering must be a nightmare to try and paint in. Is it SOP that it be painted along with the selector switch and sight markings?

October 24, 2002, 14:50	#13
headWound Registered FALaholic #: 7718 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 110	I know what you mean! Mark does make it look easy... I think that's how you know you're dealing with an expert -- they make what they do look easy!

October 24, 2002, 22:12	#14
orca Registered FALaholic #: 48 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Parma, Idaho Posts: 613	what is the actual namr of the enamel sticks so I can find it in my Brownell catalog? TIA, orca

October 25, 2002, 13:57	#17
Wolff Registered FALaholic #: 7631 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Utah Posts: 8	Pots - There is a small hash mark, in between the front sight protective wings that is used as an indicator for your front sight setting, this is usually marked in red also.

October 25, 2002, 22:17	#19
Radio Registered FALaholic #: 263 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 9,868	Neither did I!!! Normally I just marked the "Fire" in red, everything else in white. I DON'T mark the "Auto" positon, just my thing. Testor's modeling paint, acetone (got plenty for parking as it is), careful hand, no problemo. I don't have any dot-matrix receivers, just the real stuff. Even so, with such crappy starting material I personally wouldn't be trying to highlight it, anyway. --Radio __________________ Train Like You Fight: Second PLace is NOT an Option. --E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II* "You seem to fantasize about me a lot. Maybe you should tell your boyfriend? He could dress up like me or something." --*K.O.A.M.*, November 9th, 2009 "You're better off hoping she don't miss, it's quicker that way." --ce, December 15, 2009

October 26, 2002, 10:24	#20
JoeBud Registered FALaholic #: 7300 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Arkansas Posts: 31	Well, I think my NGL ,dot-matrix, is it really Imbel made, not the "real stuff", imported by Century receiver looks just fine filled in with white oil pastel. All I care about is that when I point it down range and pull the trigger it goes bang and hits where I am aiming. The last thing I'm thinking about at the range is how nice the right side of my receiver looks.

October 26, 2002, 11:41	#21
Radio Registered FALaholic #: 263 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 9,868	My gosh, look at all that stuff! It's like a... a... a RUGER!! But it's also an FAL so of course we love it. I take back my "real stuff" comment, it wasn't intended disparagingly. I was talking about the original roll-stamp GL IMBELs before they changed the lettering and language. While it looks like you got good results coloring your lettering, JoeBud, I don't highlight PAC's dot matrix importer markings or the serial number but only the Gear Logo and "IMBEL Fabrica De Itajuba - Brasil" (note the "s" instead of "z" in "Brasil"). Also the "Fz SA 7,62" on the left side. (Funny how they use a comma instead of a period.) On my DSAs, I paint in their logo and "LK BARRINGTON, IL" on the right and "SA 58 308 CAL" on the left, but (again) not the serial number. (Like to keep a low profile in some respects.) Incidentally I had a hard time filling in one of the DSA logos, they're not stamped very deeply on my receivers. --Radio __________________ Train Like You Fight: Second PLace is NOT an Option. --E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II* "You seem to fantasize about me a lot. Maybe you should tell your boyfriend? He could dress up like me or something." --*K.O.A.M.*, November 9th, 2009 "You're better off hoping she don't miss, it's quicker that way." --ce, December 15, 2009

October 26, 2002, 17:23	#22
Atarget Registered FALaholic #: 3336 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ks. Posts: 135	Paint stix Jusy a side note. You can buy these laquer stix at a local tool supply store.There made by dixon and are the same as the Brownell's but no shipping cost.One stix will last most of us for a couple years,they come in a few colours ,all that we use on fals.HtH __________________ If we don't hang together,we shall surely hang separately ben franklin

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