Will there ever be any 5.56 parts kits from Brazil?

Ernesto · September 06, 2002, 18:18

I know there are SAR-4800s and conversions out there,
but how about some parts kits in 5.56, or some of the .22LR "Trainers" that Imbel made?

WaldorfJim · September 07, 2002, 15:05

Great question!! I hope someone out there can provide some answers. I've got a SAR4800 and am interested in the 22LRs also.

Mr pogo · September 07, 2002, 15:44

If you want a complete Imbel 22 trainer Fal, contact Sarco. They have/had the ones imported by Dealers Warehouse. Its possible DW kept one or two also.

FWRA · September 07, 2002, 16:19

Could be some Argentine .22lr kits in country by this time next year. I sure hope the deal with Recon materializes.

Ernesto · September 07, 2002, 16:26

Rav offered me one of them when he first brought them back
but at over $2000 the novelty of a .22 FAL starts to wear off.
However, reasonablly priced parts kits plumbed to a new or preban receiver starts me thinking about things like this....

http://www.printroom.com/EditAlbumPh...=0&view=actual

Or maybe a "Squirrels Must Die" WAC aluminum FAL in .22 as the ultimate squirrel arm of the free world!

Ernesto · September 07, 2002, 16:30

The irony...

A receiver built by a rodent in a rodent gun...

**WJ-Polish Guy** · September 08, 2002, 06:28

As I see it you do not want to pay the price for new Imbel product. Right now DW sell barrels for 170, handguards $80 and etc at similar savings. Just think what they would ask for new kit?
When you say resonably priced, it mean surpluss, but from where? Their Police, military? Why they would phaze out relativly new guns?
I would not hold my breath waiting...

Mr pogo · September 08, 2002, 06:47

Quote:

Originally posted by WJ-Polish Guy
As I see it you do not want to pay the price for new Imbel product. Right now DW sell barrels for 170, handguards $80 and etc at similar savings. Just think what they would ask for new kit?
When you say resonably priced, it mean surpluss, but from where? Their Police, military? Why they would phaze out relativly new guns?
I would not hold my breath waiting...

Imbel sells various 5.56 conversion kits, Ive seen their catalog. Unfortunately nobody who has pull with Imbel wants to import them.

Rhineland1 · September 08, 2002, 08:28

My 22Lr conversion is at the machinist getting a price qoute for manufacturing as we speak. The system is much better than the FN 22 system. All small parts such as spring and extractor parts are Ruger 10/22 for ease of spares.

I will have my first couple units by the end of the month.

capman · September 08, 2002, 08:44

Rhineland1,

Your web site says .22lr conversion kits in "Fall of 2003".

You just said you will have some of the first ones in a few weeks.

When can the consumer (me) expect to be able to purchase and receive one of your .22lr kits?

cap

**WJ-Polish Guy** · September 08, 2002, 09:52

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr pogo

Imbel sells various 5.56 conversion kits, Ive seen their catalog. Unfortunately nobody who has pull with Imbel wants to import them.

I`m talking here `bout .223 (5.56NATO) not .22 conversions Pogo.
Have you seen .223 conversions? Look immposible to me

It would have to be barrel, mag well insert, bolt, ejection block and Gunplumber video

Mr pogo · September 08, 2002, 12:50

Quote:

Originally posted by WJ-Polish Guy

I`m talking here `bout .223 (5.56NATO) not .22 conversions Pogo.
Have you seen .223 conversions? Look immposible to me
It would have to be barrel, mag well insert, bolt, ejection block and Gunplumber video

Yes, I was talking 5.56 nato kits that Imbel sells. Barrel replacement, reciever cut for mag release and possible ejector replacement are all doable by a competent gunsmith. The ejector requires only one pin removed for replacement BTW.

FP1201 · September 08, 2002, 16:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Ernesto
The irony...

A receiver built by a rodent in a rodent gun...

sharper minds than mine at work

Ernesto · September 09, 2002, 00:33

I agree WJ, no holding of breath.

NIB Imbel parts imported by TDW may be pricey, but they are nice.
I have 2 barrels and a set of handguards to have replacements on hand for SAR-48s
I also thought the NIB striped Para lower, folding stock , bolt, carrier, cover, springs and sight were fair game at $500, especially considering what DSA had asked for their cobbled up kits a couple of years ago…
And the $695 Recon is asking for an Argie Para kit without a barrel.
I don't know what the 5.56 conversions run right now, but who knows…
With the occasional SAR-4800 mousegun going from $1200 to $1400, the NIB Imbel 5.56 kits Mr.Pogo mentions may just have a market niche.
I suspect the issue of importing any NIB parts has as much to do with Imbel's ROI as it does with TDW's.
After all Imbel's not really in the aftermarket parts business...But a guy can day-dream.

I have know Idea how long the 5.56 and .22 versions have been in use, maybe 20-25 years?
Are de-milled parts kits even a possibility?

The rarity of an imported, NIB, Imbel SAR-48 .22LR trainer may be fair at over 2K, but Rhineland1's very proper .22 FAL looks like it can easily steal the show.

Very Nice Indeed Rhineland1!!!

**WJ-Polish Guy** · September 09, 2002, 18:04

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr pogo

Yes, I was talking 5.56 nato kits that Imbel sells. Barrel replacement, reciever cut for mag release and possible ejector replacement are all doable by a competent gunsmith. The ejector requires only one pin removed for replacement BTW.

Wow! Lern something new every day.
This Imbel must be owned by the State or something, they definitly could make more money in the US.

Mr pogo · September 10, 2002, 04:06

Quote:

Originally posted by WJ-Polish Guy

Wow! Lern something new every day.
This Imbel must be owned by the State or something, they definitly could make more money in the US.

Hah!

September 06, 2002, 18:18	#1
Ernesto Registered User FALaholic #: 168 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Minnesota Posts: 99	Will there ever be any 5.56 parts kits from Brazil? I know there are SAR-4800s and conversions out there, but how about some parts kits in 5.56, or some of the .22LR "Trainers" that Imbel made?

September 07, 2002, 16:19	#4
FWRA Registered FALaholic #: 24 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio Posts: 4,527	Could be some Argentine .22lr kits in country by this time next year. I sure hope the deal with Recon materializes. __________________ FWRA I'm very pleased with each advancing year. It stems back to when I was forty. I was a bit upset about reaching that milestone, but an older friend consoled me. 'Don't complain about growing old - many, many people do not have that privilege.' Earl Warren (1891 - 1974), Chief Justice

September 07, 2002, 16:26	#5
Ernesto Registered User FALaholic #: 168 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Minnesota Posts: 99	Rav offered me one of them when he first brought them back but at over $2000 the novelty of a .22 FAL starts to wear off. However, reasonablly priced parts kits plumbed to a new or preban receiver starts me thinking about things like this.... http://www.printroom.com/EditAlbumPh...=0&view=actual Or maybe a "Squirrels Must Die" WAC aluminum FAL in .22 as the ultimate squirrel arm of the free world! Last edited by Ernesto; September 07, 2002 at 16:34.

September 08, 2002, 06:28	#7
WJ-Polish Guy Polak 210 Contributor FALaholic #: 137 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 3,874	As I see it you do not want to pay the price for new Imbel product. Right now DW sell barrels for 170, handguards $80 and etc at similar savings. Just think what they would ask for new kit? When you say resonably priced, it mean surpluss, but from where? Their Police, military? Why they would phaze out relativly new guns? I would not hold my breath waiting... __________________ Czapajew Last edited by WJ-Polish Guy; September 08, 2002 at 06:32.

September 09, 2002, 00:33	#14
Ernesto Registered User FALaholic #: 168 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Minnesota Posts: 99	I agree WJ, no holding of breath. NIB Imbel parts imported by TDW may be pricey, but they are nice. I have 2 barrels and a set of handguards to have replacements on hand for SAR-48s I also thought the NIB striped Para lower, folding stock , bolt, carrier, cover, springs and sight were fair game at $500, especially considering what DSA had asked for their cobbled up kits a couple of years ago… And the $695 Recon is asking for an Argie Para kit without a barrel. I don't know what the 5.56 conversions run right now, but who knows… With the occasional SAR-4800 mousegun going from $1200 to $1400, the NIB Imbel 5.56 kits Mr.Pogo mentions may just have a market niche. I suspect the issue of importing any NIB parts has as much to do with Imbel's ROI as it does with TDW's. After all Imbel's not really in the aftermarket parts business...But a guy can day-dream. I have know Idea how long the 5.56 and .22 versions have been in use, maybe 20-25 years? Are de-milled parts kits even a possibility? The rarity of an imported, NIB, Imbel SAR-48 .22LR trainer may be fair at over 2K, but Rhineland1's very proper .22 FAL looks like it can easily steal the show. Very Nice Indeed Rhineland1!!! Last edited by Ernesto; September 09, 2002 at 00:36.

September 07, 2002, 15:05	#2
WaldorfJim Registered FALaholic #: 4654 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 51	Great question!! I hope someone out there can provide some answers. I've got a SAR4800 and am interested in the 22LRs also.

September 07, 2002, 15:44	#3
Mr pogo Registered FALaholic #: 5 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 2,216	If you want a complete Imbel 22 trainer Fal, contact Sarco. They have/had the ones imported by Dealers Warehouse. Its possible DW kept one or two also.

September 07, 2002, 16:30	#6
Ernesto Registered User FALaholic #: 168 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Minnesota Posts: 99	The irony... A receiver built by a rodent in a rodent gun...

September 08, 2002, 08:28	#9
Rhineland1 Registered FALaholic #: 2450 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: dallas, Posts: 1,164	My 22Lr conversion is at the machinist getting a price qoute for manufacturing as we speak. The system is much better than the FN 22 system. All small parts such as spring and extractor parts are Ruger 10/22 for ease of spares. I will have my first couple units by the end of the month.

September 08, 2002, 08:44	#10
capman Registered FALaholic #: 5083 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 330	Rhineland1, Your web site says .22lr conversion kits in "Fall of 2003". You just said you will have some of the first ones in a few weeks. When can the consumer (me) expect to be able to purchase and receive one of your .22lr kits? cap

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