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Old December 31, 2017, 10:03   #1
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If you love the taste of piss, I have the rifle for you!

This is the KelTec ad in the January American Rifleman magazine. Heckuva a nice mental image to browse through at breakfast on a Sunday morning.

I never claimed to be a marketing genius, but who in the heck are they trying to sell to?

Is there a huge, un-tapped market segment of "piss drinkers" waiting for just the right rifle to come along to match their needs?

I suppose KelTec is perfectly poised to tap into this segment of gun buyers the other manufacturers have missed

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Old December 31, 2017, 10:09   #2
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Does one hold onto it with trigger hand? Are they suggesting CA and NY are populated with piss-drinkers?
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Old December 31, 2017, 10:09   #3
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Does drinking Milwaukee's Best count
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Old December 31, 2017, 10:19   #4
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Does drinking Milwaukee's Best count
Do you grasp the can with an opposable thumb? If so then this bullpup is not for you.
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Old December 31, 2017, 10:29   #5
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It's "the best factory bullpup trigger ever!"....
I'll wait for the Bear Grylls version to come out,with the snazzy orange panels....
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Wifey and I discussed this ad last night and think the high speed low drag operators at KelTec have jumped the shark.
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Old December 31, 2017, 12:08   #7
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I was unaware that hi-speed, low-drag operators even used Kel-Tec.

I'm sure their name comes up frequently at equipment acquisition budget meetings.
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Old December 31, 2017, 12:12   #8
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Drink your own? Buy a KelTec.


Drink someone else's? Buy a Hi Point.



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Old December 31, 2017, 12:25   #9
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When they come out with a rifle for old men that piss on their shoes, then??????????
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Old December 31, 2017, 12:28   #10
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Interesting strategy. Most companies prefer to compliment their customer base in other ways....

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Old December 31, 2017, 12:29   #11
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I know what they were trying to do. Marketing FAIL
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Old December 31, 2017, 13:03   #12
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Drink your own? Buy a KelTec.


Drink someone else's? Buy a Hi Point.



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Now my phones covered in coffee...
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Old December 31, 2017, 13:45   #13
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Say what you will but I've been eagerly awaiting this rifle for a year now. I don't think much of the ad either and posted it a week ago on subguns.com,.....

http://www.subguns.com/boards/semimsg.cgi?read=279731

Hell, I thought you stole my picture(mine as in 'I took it', not mine as in 'that's me in the picture thinking about downing a cold one(warm one?).

Which is which?




Back to the rifle,......this thing is gonna be cool. Short, light, apparently much more comfortable to fire than it appears. I seriously do have money set aside for the first two I see but this stupid advert pisses me off just a little bit. Better to be pissed off than pissed on as they say,......or pissed in.

Watch this video and see what ya'll think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-eveibwmqQ
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Old December 31, 2017, 14:34   #14
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Wifey and I discussed this ad last night and think the high speed low drag operators at KelTec have jumped the shark.

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Old December 31, 2017, 15:19   #15
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Real operators drink piss. Lots of piss.
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Old December 31, 2017, 15:55   #16
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That is one ugly rifle....I wouldn't take one for free. Who comes up with this shit.
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Old December 31, 2017, 18:49   #17
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the ad is definitely homo oriented.
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Now hold on. The ad never says that the gun is for those who DO or LOVE to drink piss, it says "For those who WOULD" and later "for those who would if they HAD TO" (emphasis mine)

Just about everyone I know would sooner drink it than die, IF drinking urine was the only viable course of action to survive.

.....and all said friends still wouldn't buy one of these
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Old December 31, 2017, 19:49   #19
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the ad is definitely homo oriented.
More tacticool homoerotica...dumb
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Old December 31, 2017, 20:38   #20
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Drink your own? Buy a KelTec.


Drink someone else's? Buy a Hi Point.



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That has to qualify as a top 10 post of 17
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Old December 31, 2017, 21:26   #21
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Because a CA compliant rifle qualifies as drinking piss.
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Old December 31, 2017, 21:37   #22
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Because a CA compliant rifle qualifies as drinking piss.
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Old December 31, 2017, 22:23   #23
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The RDB Survival is not California compliant,.......it's too short. California is so fugged up they needed to put a 30" minimum OAL even on a featureless rifle just to be dicks. Kel Tec does make an RDB CA with a 20" barrel to make length but those were announced two years ago and still aren't available.
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Thats when you drink piss, and get kicked in the nuts.

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The RDB Survival is not California compliant,.......it's too short. California is so fugged up they needed to put a 30" minimum OAL even on a featureless rifle just to be dicks. Kel Tec does make an RDB CA with a 20" barrel to make length but those were announced two years ago and still aren't available.
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The RDB Survival is not California compliant,.......it's too short. California is so fugged up they needed to put a 30" minimum OAL even on a featureless rifle just to be dicks. Kel Tec does make an RDB CA with a 20" barrel to make length but those were announced two years ago and still aren't available.
Kev is right; I got to hold one of these when at Keltec a few weeks ago. I asked the same question regarding the stock and CA compliance. Chad said this was designed as a survival/backpack weapon. Rifle is extremely light (barrel is pencil thin) and shoulders surprisingly well given the grip design.
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Old January 01, 2018, 02:11   #26
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Add worked.


People are talking about it.
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I thought this thread was going to be about German porn.

Those people will masturbate to anything.
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Old January 01, 2018, 08:29   #28
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Because a CA compliant rifle qualifies as drinking piss.
Yes, they should Market that rifle as the MAXINE. By the way is that frozen Pee on his face?
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That stock is asparagus green. Hard core piss drinker.
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Old January 01, 2018, 14:40   #30
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This does speak to the fact that there is a gun culture out there of "hardcore operators" that magazines like Recoil cater to. Lots of useless man jewelry for guns featured there. Lots of homo erotic bro tattoo pics on expensive textured paper so they can clean up afterwards. Just a new form of advertising for the young 20-30's survivalist types. I grew up with this type of advertising:

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Because a CA compliant rifle qualifies as drinking piss.
That is for sure!

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I thought this thread was going to be about German porn.

Those people will masturbate to anything.
Even more than the Japanese?
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Old January 18, 2018, 08:46   #33
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Thumbs down

Disgusting! To say the least in understated terms. How tasteless (as it were!) Kel Tec has lost me as a potential customer. Who needs Kel Tec?

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Old January 18, 2018, 10:53   #34
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what is this, a thread from the AK files?
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Well, it's not the piss-drinker Survival model but it's similar. After waiting two full years from announcement at the 2016 SHOT Show the RDB-C is finally trickling out,.......hah, hah,.....I said 'trickling'. The first three or four hit GunBroker last week(I bought two of them). Picked the first one up at my LGS on Tuesday. Second one is coming by pony express from the west coast so might be here by the weekend. Haven't shot it yet, but so far I like it. Short, not as light as the Survival, but light enough. 20" of ballistic goodness and still shorter than a 10" SBR. Handles really nice with the 'ugly' grip.

https://www.keltecweapons.com/rifles/rdb-c/

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Old January 18, 2018, 17:14   #36
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How does that rifle help me survive in the wilderness when the 8" high front sight assembly keeps getting snagged on every tree or bush I walk past?
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Prolly does drink his own piss...in the spirit of self-sufficiency.
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