Went to FAL school .

Edgartwib · December 25, 2017, 22:54

A couple days ago, after a short correspondence with fellow forum member 'Ce'. I took the short drive to Albuquerque to go shooting. Ce offered to take me to a local range and show me around both inch and metric pattern riFALs.

Until two days ago, my only experience was with a Aussie SLR. I am coming from the M14 world, I grew up shooting CMP matches and I never paid much attention to FAL/SLR's until recently.

Needless to say I got schooled and had a blast literally! Form respect to Ce I did not take pictures nor will I go into a in depth of all we shot. But I will say I got to shoot a couple of each pattern and I got to watch both a inch and metric guns broken down. I now feel more comfortable looking over future FALs and L1a1s giving me an idea of what I am looking at.

Ce also gave me the motivation to jump in with both feet with the 50.00 kit I have. Its a bummer the builders heyday seems to be past but luckily I met a guy who offered to show me the ropes.

We spent several hours shooting and ended the day ringing the gong at 200 yds with a .308 M1 Garand that I brought and a nice StG build.

Before we parted ways Ce made me a deal for the the StG that we had shot. I was not planning on it but he me a deal I could not refuse and I got an excellent shooter to start my FAL section in the safe!

I hope everybody had a Merry Christmas. My new StG sure puts a smile on my face!

hkshooter · December 25, 2017, 23:08

Sweet story. By most accounts here ce is good people. I've never personally dealt with him but I've seen some of his sale ads here and his deals are always in the favor of the buyer. I saw his offer to meet up with you and I'm glad you took him up on it. Turned out to be a very, very good day.
Thanks for sharing.

BTW, there's hardly a firearm more pleasing to look at than a well built StG58. Congrats on the purchase.

**4x401** · December 25, 2017, 23:11

Claude's da' man. You're a fortunate fellow. Few start down the Fal path as well prepared. Buy a lottery ticket.

**Andy the Aussie** · December 26, 2017, 01:02

ce is good people. Simple as that.

**J. Armstrong** · December 26, 2017, 09:00

Speaking of ce, where has the Files' poet laureate been lately ? Miss his posts a lot !!

ce · December 26, 2017, 10:23

Hey dudes, I've been lurking mostly, watching the new guys as the scene changed over the years.

This was cool, though, and Ed is definitely qualified as a shooter, right down to proper range etiquette and ability. I'm honored that he made the trek on just a hunch, so I had to perform and produce or risk my reputation and status by turning out to be a douche like Vince, who also made the scene with his Glock.

Ed is a big dude, so naturally he selected the Rifel with the long African butt fitted, and never minced about the bipod making it so heavy. Wait til he gets a load of the Pig, the Izzy Heavy Barrel.

I think it's time for his old lady to accept that there's going to be a hole in Daddy's safe, where all the money goes.

1911Ron · December 26, 2017, 11:55

Outstanding! Good to know that you were started down the Fal road in the best possible way! Oh and congrats on a getting a very nice riFal!

01BIRDDOG · December 26, 2017, 12:20

Good story and thanks to both of you all to make it happen.

**Texgunner** · December 26, 2017, 12:38

I like happy stories like this!

**James** · December 26, 2017, 14:30

CE is a great guy to deal with. Meet him at the Falfest and he was always fun to be around. I got pictures of him organizing the "flip-flop" shoot at one of the Falfest.

James

**Andy the Aussie** · December 26, 2017, 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by ce

a douche like Vince, who also made the scene with his Glock

.....did you at lease warn him about that fugger before he made the trip ??

Tex · December 26, 2017, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by ce

Hey dudes, I've been lurking mostly, watching the new guys as the scene changed over the years.

Amen to that but, I do miss you crazy folks....lol

Tex · December 26, 2017, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

CE is a great guy to deal with. Meet him at the Falfest and he was always fun to be around. I got pictures of him organizing the "flip-flop" shoot at one of the Falfest.

James

Good as they get. Had a blast out there the times we went. Maybe again one day.

meltblown · December 26, 2017, 16:08

Did you get the special no bs CE guarantee?

ce · December 26, 2017, 16:18

Well, Andy, I did say to him when we got to the range, You do have eye and ear protection, oui?

He whips out a pair of Raybans and slips on his Silencios, and says, Oui.

I remember when you and Mrs. Andy made the scene at Zia while you were on walkabout, all the way form Buggeroo Creek, and that's like, 14,000 miles away.

And James and Tex were formidable opponents in the 200 yard steel plate match at Falfest in Raton. But they got beat by The Bruno Brothers.

So, to be fair, I now invite HBR to fly in from Arkansas, I'll pick you up at the airport, which is right next to Zia Rifel and Pistol Club, we'll shoot some gongs, and then you can catch the next plane back to teh Ozarks.

Tex · December 26, 2017, 16:24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYUFBlLfBR0&t=5s

The 2011 Champs, James and I (FN Team).....and in all fairness some of this is the work of a SCAR 17H.

ce · December 26, 2017, 17:03

Oh, yeah, huh, Team FN was way up front all the way home, my mistake.

Tex had that damn SCAR and couldn't miss, so James just ate a sandwich and cleaned the last shot. Not really, but I think there were 17 targets, so neither one needed a mag change.

And I did get a shitton of brass, boy, I'l tell you what.

Thanks for posting that Tex, I hadn't seen the whole match layed out like that, and thanks to Robin and Dirty Rice and Fast Professor and Stranger and Post Toastie and all you other steel clangers.

**James** · December 26, 2017, 17:10

I think the Brunop brothers was the next year and I don't think David was there but I remember them beating me and I don't remember who was with me one of those years.

I give most of the credit to David and his scoped Scar. That think is badass.

James

ce · December 26, 2017, 17:45

Those other videos in that youtube stream really captured the essence of Falfest, if any of you guys want to know what it was all about.

James and Robin really shined in organizing the matches, and that was a lot of hard work officiating it all, so thanks again.

Tex · December 26, 2017, 17:53

I'm really glad I found those vids dirty rice posted. It was fun looking back at them.

Edgartwib · December 26, 2017, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy the Aussie

.....did you at lease warn him about that fugger before he made the trip ??

Yes Ce said we might run into another forum member. I thought it was cool to meet Vince it was nice to have another knowledgable guy to go thru the lower of the SLR as we broke it down and describe the differences between the inch and metric patterns. He may be 'notorious' but he was on the level with me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ce

Well, Andy, I did say to him when we got to the range, You do have eye and ear protection, oui?

He whips out a pair of Raybans and slips on his Silencios, and says, Oui.

Just to be clear here Ce is not talking about me...I was confused but I dont own Raybans or Silencios or say Oui so maybe it was Vince and I missed it.

Back to important things lol

I hope to get some trigger time with it tomorrow. My girlfriend wants to go shooting so it gives me an excuse to go all out. My local range used to have gongs at 100 and 200 yds. but last time I was there dip sh!ts shot it with steel core and I am not sure if they have been replaced yet...I will find out tomorrow.
I also have a standing invitation to go shooting with Ce and have another day of school FAL lol.

**Andy the Aussie** · December 26, 2017, 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ce

Well, Andy, I did say to him when we got to the range, You do have eye and ear protection, oui?

He whips out a pair of Raybans and slips on his Silencios, and says, Oui.

......who's damn RayBans was he puting on ????? Huh Huh Huh, that fugger....

ce · December 27, 2017, 00:32

Uh, he's kinda new, Andy, he don't know about some of the poetic license and graphic imagery we use around here.

So here ya go, Ed, listen to this song see if it don't conjure up some images for ya.

https://youtu.be/952h-AJ3Bcg

**Andy the Aussie** · December 27, 2017, 01:14

Let's not start letting the truth get in the way of a GREAT story now !!!!

Edgartwib · December 27, 2017, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ce

Uh, he's kinda new, Andy, he don't know about some of the poetic license and graphic imagery we use around here.

So here ya go, Ed, listen to this song see if it don't conjure up some images for ya.

https://youtu.be/952h-AJ3Bcg

Ya ya im a noob here

I cant change that. I am glad to see this forum is more relaxed than some to the tight wads that i find on the net. I found this out first hand with me posting the LAV shooting the G1 thread, I thought that was a cool vid. It really opened the floodgates and turned me onto some of Ce's fine poetry.

**ArtBanks** · December 28, 2017, 07:43

Sure looks like fun guys. That FN team is scary.

Semper Fi
Art

vmtz · December 28, 2017, 09:41

Ed is a really nice guy. It was a pleasure to make his company.

Ugh! YOU FECKERS! Being nice to CE only makes him unbearable. But damn, after all these years ya'll should know what the consequences are for saying how great CE is. He was all giddy and skipping around like a school boy. He has been saying "thank you so much" to the Costco sample ladies and only taking one sample. He even gave me a dirty look when I double fisted a particularly munchie sample and scored two on one pass. I am starting to fear he may start tipping his hat to them. Then what, ya'll tell me?!

As for the Ray Bans, he hinted that maybe, just maybe,I think about returning them to Andy. For the record, I stole them fair and square.

Seriously, I am really worried, what if Ce isn't grumpy? What would happen if he stops telling us how we all "ruined his life?" This ain't good.

Vince

vmtz · December 28, 2017, 21:12

Vince

**Andy the Aussie** · December 28, 2017, 21:49

Fugger

Edgartwib · December 29, 2017, 02:25

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/9c...55e84f7df5.jpg

I met up with Ce yesderday. I was free and he was free so I made the drive and started the day early. I brought my Belgian 50.00 kit for Ce to check out, he lined me out and helped me brake down the lower 100% so I was able to wipe off all the pb blaster off I used to break down the cosmoline. It really made it nice to have experienced first hand knowledge guiding me.

Ce also offered to grind off the old FN receiver stub.

After we finished with the 50.00 kit we goofed off with my StG for a little bit and the loaded up Ce's Land Rover and headed to the range for some trigger time.

After some fine tuning I was hitting the 200yd gong on almost every shot with the StG on a bipod laying prone on a mat and cycled all the mags in my kit.

Ce shooting the StG.

your'es truly with the StG

Then he brought out some more toys to make me jealous.

This was a nice rifle. I want a Izzy HB!
Then he brought out a South African R1

Then I brought out one of my 14s.

A all Winchester build I picked up years ago.
We rang the 200yd gong with every rifle. It was a really nice day. The high in Albuquerque was a balmy 60 degrees on a clear sunny day. It was a nice second day of FAL school!

I must say I am a lucky man. The day before Christmas I got a new rifal. My girlfriend saw it on its bipod in the living room Christmas day and did not even ask me if it was a new one. Which is kind of like permission in a way to get another dont you think!

**Andy the Aussie** · December 29, 2017, 16:13

Land Rover 'eh.....

December 25, 2017, 22:54	#1
Edgartwib Registered FALaholic #: 80246 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico Posts: 98	Went to FAL school . A couple days ago, after a short correspondence with fellow forum member 'Ce'. I took the short drive to Albuquerque to go shooting. Ce offered to take me to a local range and show me around both inch and metric pattern riFALs. Until two days ago, my only experience was with a Aussie SLR. I am coming from the M14 world, I grew up shooting CMP matches and I never paid much attention to FAL/SLR's until recently. Needless to say I got schooled and had a blast literally! Form respect to Ce I did not take pictures nor will I go into a in depth of all we shot. But I will say I got to shoot a couple of each pattern and I got to watch both a inch and metric guns broken down. I now feel more comfortable looking over future FALs and L1a1s giving me an idea of what I am looking at. Ce also gave me the motivation to jump in with both feet with the 50.00 kit I have. Its a bummer the builders heyday seems to be past but luckily I met a guy who offered to show me the ropes. We spent several hours shooting and ended the day ringing the gong at 200 yds with a .308 M1 Garand that I brought and a nice StG build. Before we parted ways Ce made me a deal for the the StG that we had shot. I was not planning on it but he me a deal I could not refuse and I got an excellent shooter to start my FAL section in the safe! I hope everybody had a Merry Christmas. My new StG sure puts a smile on my face!

December 25, 2017, 23:08	#2
hkshooter Mighty Fine! Contributor FALaholic #: 5391 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 6,808	Sweet story. By most accounts here ce is good people. I've never personally dealt with him but I've seen some of his sale ads here and his deals are always in the favor of the buyer. I saw his offer to meet up with you and I'm glad you took him up on it. Turned out to be a very, very good day. Thanks for sharing. BTW, there's hardly a firearm more pleasing to look at than a well built StG58. Congrats on the purchase. __________________ How's your dog, Paden?

December 25, 2017, 23:11	#3
4x401 Giver of Noogies... Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 31978 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ORYGUN Posts: 9,473	Claude's da' man. You're a fortunate fellow. Few start down the Fal path as well prepared. Buy a lottery ticket. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Boom in the crotch, boom in the crotch, and lets go to work". "Put you thumb up, hit the bolt release, and quit phuking with God and Eugene"

December 26, 2017, 09:00	#5
J. Armstrong Minister of Amusement Platinum Contributor FALaholic #: 13629 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Not far enough from Philly Posts: 14,753	Speaking of ce, where has the Files' poet laureate been lately ? Miss his posts a lot !! __________________ "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools" Herbert Spenser “I respect the government only in the sense that I respect any other dangerous predator who views me as food.” “The consolidation of the states into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it.” Robert E. Lee

December 26, 2017, 11:55	#7
1911Ron Registered FALaholic #: 17513 Join Date: May 2005 Location: South of the Fulda gap Posts: 1,407	Outstanding! Good to know that you were started down the Fal road in the best possible way! Oh and congrats on a getting a very nice riFal! __________________ FAL convert. "Too old to fight, too slow to run, but I can still shoot pretty good!"

December 26, 2017, 10:23	#6
ce Registered FALaholic #: 373 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 6,432	Hey dudes, I've been lurking mostly, watching the new guys as the scene changed over the years. This was cool, though, and Ed is definitely qualified as a shooter, right down to proper range etiquette and ability. I'm honored that he made the trek on just a hunch, so I had to perform and produce or risk my reputation and status by turning out to be a douche like Vince, who also made the scene with his Glock. Ed is a big dude, so naturally he selected the Rifel with the long African butt fitted, and never minced about the bipod making it so heavy. Wait til he gets a load of the Pig, the Izzy Heavy Barrel. I think it's time for his old lady to accept that there's going to be a hole in Daddy's safe, where all the money goes.

December 26, 2017, 12:20	#8
01BIRDDOG Registered FALaholic #: 54639 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southwest Virginia---Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 2,019	Good story and thanks to both of you all to make it happen.

December 26, 2017, 12:38	#9
Texgunner long-time Texas taxpayer Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 4653 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Brokenoak in central Texas-Milam county Posts: 7,911	I like happy stories like this! __________________ "The rock of democracy will founder when people think of people unlike themselves as the "other"-Teddy Roosevelt My daddy was a cowboy in his younger days, wild as the west Texas wind. He once told me, "Son, death is a horse you got to ride. So you better get your saddle ready." heavily armed, easily pissed.

December 26, 2017, 14:30	#10
James Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 642 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX, USA Posts: 1,839	CE is a great guy to deal with. Meet him at the Falfest and he was always fun to be around. I got pictures of him organizing the "flip-flop" shoot at one of the Falfest. James __________________ Hey guys, watch this!

December 26, 2017, 16:08	#14
meltblown Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 34604 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SA Tx Posts: 13,861	Did you get the special no bs CE guarantee? __________________ Giving people the benefit of the means it’s ok to screw you over. Expect the worst, and you'll never be disappointed. Before trying to beat the odds, make sure you can survive the odds beating you.

December 26, 2017, 16:18	#15
ce Registered FALaholic #: 373 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 6,432	Well, Andy, I did say to him when we got to the range, You do have eye and ear protection, oui? He whips out a pair of Raybans and slips on his Silencios, and says, Oui. I remember when you and Mrs. Andy made the scene at Zia while you were on walkabout, all the way form Buggeroo Creek, and that's like, 14,000 miles away. And James and Tex were formidable opponents in the 200 yard steel plate match at Falfest in Raton. But they got beat by The Bruno Brothers. So, to be fair, I now invite HBR to fly in from Arkansas, I'll pick you up at the airport, which is right next to Zia Rifel and Pistol Club, we'll shoot some gongs, and then you can catch the next plane back to teh Ozarks.

December 26, 2017, 16:24	#16
Tex Registered FALaholic #: 747 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: East TX, USA Posts: 847	Wait just a dern minute there, ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYUFBlLfBR0&t=5s The 2011 Champs, James and I (FN Team).....and in all fairness some of this is the work of a SCAR 17H. __________________ TX - FNFAL Last edited by Tex; December 26, 2017 at 16:41.

December 26, 2017, 17:03	#17
ce Registered FALaholic #: 373 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 6,432	Oh, yeah, huh, Team FN was way up front all the way home, my mistake. Tex had that damn SCAR and couldn't miss, so James just ate a sandwich and cleaned the last shot. Not really, but I think there were 17 targets, so neither one needed a mag change. And I did get a shitton of brass, boy, I'l tell you what. Thanks for posting that Tex, I hadn't seen the whole match layed out like that, and thanks to Robin and Dirty Rice and Fast Professor and Stranger and Post Toastie and all you other steel clangers.

December 26, 2017, 17:10	#18
James Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 642 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX, USA Posts: 1,839	I think the Brunop brothers was the next year and I don't think David was there but I remember them beating me and I don't remember who was with me one of those years. I give most of the credit to David and his scoped Scar. That think is badass. James __________________ Hey guys, watch this!

December 26, 2017, 17:45	#19
ce Registered FALaholic #: 373 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 6,432	Those other videos in that youtube stream really captured the essence of Falfest, if any of you guys want to know what it was all about. James and Robin really shined in organizing the matches, and that was a lot of hard work officiating it all, so thanks again.

December 26, 2017, 17:53	#20
Tex Registered FALaholic #: 747 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: East TX, USA Posts: 847	I'm really glad I found those vids dirty rice posted. It was fun looking back at them. __________________ TX - FNFAL

December 27, 2017, 00:32	#23
ce Registered FALaholic #: 373 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 6,432	Uh, he's kinda new, Andy, he don't know about some of the poetic license and graphic imagery we use around here. So here ya go, Ed, listen to this song see if it don't conjure up some images for ya. https://youtu.be/952h-AJ3Bcg

December 28, 2017, 07:43	#26
ArtBanks Veteran Member Platinum Contributor FALaholic #: 28761 Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Preston, CT Posts: 1,477	Sure looks like fun guys. That FN team is scary. Semper Fi Art

December 28, 2017, 09:41	#27
vmtz FALaholic #: 1125 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Here right now Posts: 17,867	Ed is a really nice guy. It was a pleasure to make his company. Ugh! YOU FECKERS! Being nice to CE only makes him unbearable. But damn, after all these years ya'll should know what the consequences are for saying how great CE is. He was all giddy and skipping around like a school boy. He has been saying "thank you so much" to the Costco sample ladies and only taking one sample. He even gave me a dirty look when I double fisted a particularly munchie sample and scored two on one pass. I am starting to fear he may start tipping his hat to them. Then what, ya'll tell me?! As for the Ray Bans, he hinted that maybe, just maybe,I think about returning them to Andy. For the record, I stole them fair and square. Seriously, I am really worried, what if Ce isn't grumpy? What would happen if he stops telling us how we all "ruined his life?" This ain't good. Vince

December 28, 2017, 21:12	#28
vmtz FALaholic #: 1125 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Here right now Posts: 17,867	Vince

December 29, 2017, 02:25	#30
Edgartwib Registered FALaholic #: 80246 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico Posts: 98	https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/9c...55e84f7df5.jpg I met up with Ce yesderday. I was free and he was free so I made the drive and started the day early. I brought my Belgian 50.00 kit for Ce to check out, he lined me out and helped me brake down the lower 100% so I was able to wipe off all the pb blaster off I used to break down the cosmoline. It really made it nice to have experienced first hand knowledge guiding me. Ce also offered to grind off the old FN receiver stub. After we finished with the 50.00 kit we goofed off with my StG for a little bit and the loaded up Ce's Land Rover and headed to the range for some trigger time. After some fine tuning I was hitting the 200yd gong on almost every shot with the StG on a bipod laying prone on a mat and cycled all the mags in my kit. Ce shooting the StG. your'es truly with the StG Then he brought out some more toys to make me jealous. This was a nice rifle. I want a Izzy HB! Then he brought out a South African R1 Then I brought out one of my 14s. A all Winchester build I picked up years ago. We rang the 200yd gong with every rifle. It was a really nice day. The high in Albuquerque was a balmy 60 degrees on a clear sunny day. It was a nice second day of FAL school! I must say I am a lucky man. The day before Christmas I got a new rifal. My girlfriend saw it on its bipod in the living room Christmas day and did not even ask me if it was a new one. Which is kind of like permission in a way to get another dont you think!

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