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Old December 22, 2017, 20:40   #1
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Help with identifying a vintage handgun.

From another site I frequent. Someone needing help ID'ing an unusual handgun

"This handgun was found in storage unit in New York. It will coming up for auction soon. We have no idea what it is. The only markings are the 1931 as shown. The barrel is about .35 in diameter suggesting a 38 or 9mm range for caliber. The action resembles a Batavia/Febiger rifle, but we cannot determine if they made any pistols."


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Old December 22, 2017, 21:28   #2
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Gonna go out on a limb here, and say a experimental self loader made from a revolver. And, it's the only one left in existence as well.
Now, what about that M-1911?
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Old December 22, 2017, 22:50   #3
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Slide action, magazine fed, built on a Colt DA frame.


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That's something I've never seen.
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What ever it is it appears to be very well made and is cool looking. Without knowing caliber or having the ability to test fire pistol function remains unknown. I think 1931 is the serial number, not the year of manufacture.

Seeing the P-38, Broomhandle, 1911 and what appears to be a Schellfeuer makes me think these items may be from the estate of a WWII vet, and this creation could be of German origin.

If the bidding goes beyond the amount you would expect someone to pay for a novelty item then you will know there are at least two guys who know what it is. Ask one of them at the conclusion of the auction.

Cool item, thanks for sharing.
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The receiver looks to have some Winchester influence. .35 self loader?
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The receiver looks to have some Winchester influence. .35 self loader?
Could be. I thought the mag and magwell looked a bit long for 9X19, then thought 9MM Largo, or even .38 Super.
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Giving the benefit of the doubt, it looks like some sort of prototype, but it may also be some garage project. Having been to a lot of auctions with weird stuff, it can go for between $5 and $5000.

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The lines are very similar to a Bayard designed pistol. However, the charging handle arrangement looks like several of the early Italian designs. If you could find some proof marks, then the country of origin could be identified.
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It looks well made. I have seen nothing like it. Is it SA only? It is built on a da colt frame for sure. I ask what seems like a stupid question for a reason.
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Old December 24, 2017, 00:41   #12
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.38 Batavia, Model 1931 experimental?
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Old December 25, 2017, 10:37   #13
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This BATAVIA You speak of ---is this the Batavia between Buffalo and Rochester NY>??
It was the Home of the Baker Gun co. My Grandmother was a Part Owner and worked there.
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