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Old December 20, 2017, 09:44   #1
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Interesting article about guns

From the NY Times of all places. It seems like this author was actually attempting to find "common ground". Usually when I read an article about the "common ground" on guns it ends up being an article trying to convince me that I am OK with an assault weapons ban or a ban on high capacity magazines.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/19/opinion/domestic-violence-guns.html
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Old December 20, 2017, 10:01   #2
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From the NY Times of all places. It seems like this author was actually attempting to find "common ground". Usually when I read an article about the "common ground" on guns it ends up being an article trying to convince me that I am OK with an assault weapons ban or a ban on high capacity magazines.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/19/opinion/domestic-violence-guns.html
We've given up enough common ground.
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Old December 20, 2017, 10:56   #3
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Here's the common ground that I offer:

Complete deregulation of all weapons used in a direct-fire role, TO INCLUDE AT rockets/missiles, anti-tank guns, mounted cannons such as those on tanks and SPG's. And hand-held grenades.

Launched grenades and mortars of less than 125mm diameter, a simple background check. No 4473, no fingerprints, nothing that .gov retains to know who has them.

Restoration of a person's rights upon them being released from prison AND post-release control (probation, parole, etc). If someone can't be trusted with a firearm or voting, they need to stay in prison.

End the elimination of rights due to misdemeanors such as domestic violence, possession of marijuana (or having a medical weed card).

Federal pre-emption which says states can't make laws to get around all of this, such as what Ohio did on a state level years back to get rid of the AWB's in Cincinatababwe, Columbusomalia, and ToleDUH.

There's our common ground. They meet me there, I'll stop waking men up to the reality they face in this society and showing them why they shouldn't get married, have kids, go to college for anything except engineering or medicine, or join the military. They'll get more slaves, as well as more future slaves, to help prop their society up.

Needless to say, I won't be holding my breath waiting for us to meet on common ground.

Also I was lying. I'd get what I listed, and then continue working to bring their society down.
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Old December 20, 2017, 11:03   #4
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Also I was lying. I'd get what I listed, and then continue working to bring their society down.
^^^ This. It's past time we brought it back to 'em in kind.
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Old December 20, 2017, 11:34   #5
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Only true common ground with a liberal is six feet under when it's all over for all of us. You just can't trust them.
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Old December 20, 2017, 13:28   #6
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Only true common ground with a liberal is six feet under when it's all over for all of us. You just can't trust them.
Deep down, they're good people....
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Old December 20, 2017, 13:33   #7
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Deep down, they're good people....
6 feet is deep down
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Old December 20, 2017, 23:10   #8
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In states around the country, Republicans and
Democrats agree on the need to prevent
domestic violence. So why doesn’t Congress act?
WTF is it congress' job to do anything about 'domestic violence'?

and WTF does it have to do with firearms?

stupid article with a bunch of cherry picked stats.

violence is a symptom of a society that has been corrupted by the government's manipulations to destroy the middle-class and keep the working and lower-class from getting anywhere.
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Old December 21, 2017, 00:30   #9
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Congress had no business passing the Lautenberg amendment. Leaving it to the states is the only correct legal path.

It was ruled by SCOTUS that Congress could repeal it at any time and leave DV issues to the States.

Lautenberg removes gun rights permanently, for misdemeanor convictions of DV.

Hillary Clinton was responsible for Lautenberg.
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Old December 21, 2017, 00:39   #10
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We all know what the attempt at finding common ground is if the liberals have it the way they want. It is the death of freedom and full descent into socialism. The state will have guns. Not us.
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Old December 21, 2017, 02:45   #11
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Liberals. Hmm.

We have a long list of firearms that can no longer be imported as well as a machine gun ban that were signed in by who?
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Old December 21, 2017, 12:51   #12
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Gun control will never stop the people-killing-people problem because you cannot legislate or regulate morality. As long as people believe it's OK to kill others, it'll continue. It's happened since man first walked upright and it'll continue until either we, Mother Nature, or the Universe wipes us out completely. If it isn't guns, it'll be knives. If not knives, clubs. If not clubs, ______; etc.

The current issue with intolerable murder rates in Chicago and mass shootings has less to do with gun control and more to do with peoples' beliefs. As a nation, we've had guns available since we were founded. It wasn't until the later part of the 20th Century that they became a big enough problem to become highly politicized. Taking them all away isn't going to solve the actual problem, although it will slow the senseless deaths a little.
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Old January 06, 2018, 12:39   #13
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Story out today that only 12% of murders in Chicago are solved. Most gun controls ever yet huge number of murders and the cops can't solve the crimes. Better to arm yourself than to depend on the cops of Chicago.
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6 feet is deep down
Sometimes it's not deep enough, you have to drive a stake through their heart as well.
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Story out today that only 12% of murders in Chicago are solved. Most gun controls ever yet huge number of murders and the cops can't solve the crimes. Better to arm yourself than to depend on the cops of Chicago.
The politicians of Chicago are a perfect example of not deep enough also. It's going to take a stake through the heart and sowing the earth with salt as well to get rid of the evil they have left in their wake.
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