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Old December 18, 2017, 15:52   #1
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Love or Hate, Dude walks what he talks

I'm genuinely surprised. I admit.

But he legit hasn't flip flopped.
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Old December 18, 2017, 16:15   #2
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Great speech today, he really gets it.
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Old December 18, 2017, 16:32   #3
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Your right Donald ... The Iranians have no reason in the world to be be pissed off at the US!
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Old December 18, 2017, 17:33   #4
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Your right Donald ... The Iranians have no reason in the world to be be pissed off at the US!
There is little doubt, at this point, who is puling the strings:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...ecurity-strate
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Old December 18, 2017, 17:33   #5
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But he legit hasn't flip flopped.
He hasn't flip-flopped? You're saying that tongue in cheek, right?
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Old December 18, 2017, 17:35   #6
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He hasn't flip-flopped? You're saying that tongue in cheek, right?
I welcome opposing opinion & or/ examples / etc, please elaborate.

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Old December 18, 2017, 18:10   #7
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I welcome opposing opinion & or/ examples / etc, please elaborate.

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Well, the article I linked for starters. Trump promised a return to a rationale foreign policy, instead the neo-con war machine is beating its drums louder than ever.

He's delivered on some stuff for sure, others not so much. A classic political posturing and resulting flip flop occurred immediately after his election, he promised during a debate to appoint a special prosecutor to go after Hillary, immediately after his election he flip-flopped and said "she's been through enough."
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Old December 18, 2017, 18:20   #8
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Well, the article I linked for starters. Trump promised a return to a rationale foreign policy, instead the neo-con war machine is beating its drums louder than ever.

He's delivered on some stuff for sure, others not so much. A classic political posturing and resulting flip flop occurred immediately after his election, he promised during a debate to appoint a special prosecutor to go after Hillary, immediately after his election he flip-flopped and said "she's been through enough."
Fair enough.

I have some differing outlooks, for differing reasons. But you raise valid criticism.

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Old December 18, 2017, 19:05   #9
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Iran----bad
Trump and USA--- good.

The Iranians have no cause to be upset at the USA, ever, historically or otherwise.
The Shah Westernized Iran, like Afghanistan used to be.

Installing the Shah was a good thing, as the USSR installed a commie puppet there, who had to take the "cure."

But then the Islamic crazies took over both places by force and not democracy. Iran and Afghanistan became seats of terrorist powers and are both responsible for attacks upon the west.

Iran will eventually be brought to heel, after NKorea is disarmed.

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Old December 18, 2017, 19:42   #10
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Iran----bad
Trump and USA--- good.

The Iranians have no cause to be upset at the USA, ever, historically or otherwise.
The Shah Westernized Iran, like Afghanistan used to be.

Installing the Shah was a good thing, as the USSR installed a commie puppet there, who had to take the "cure."

But then the Islamic crazies took over both places by force and not democracy. Iran and Afghanistan became seats of terrorist powers and are both responsible for attacks upon the west.

Iran will eventually be brought to heel, after NKorea is disarmed.
Has there ever been a war fought you didn't like?
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Old December 18, 2017, 21:20   #11
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Installing the Shah was a good thing, as the USSR installed a commie puppet there, who had to take the "cure."

But then the Islamic crazies took over both places by force and not democracy.
That your head did not explode when you typed that is a testament to either the thickness of your skull or the lack of electricity flowing through it.
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Old December 18, 2017, 21:58   #12
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That your head did not explode when you typed that is a testament to either the thickness of your skull or the lack of electricity flowing through it.
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Old December 18, 2017, 22:13   #13
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Too bad Trump wasn't president in 1979.......
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Old December 18, 2017, 22:16   #14
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Old December 18, 2017, 22:19   #15
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Yeah Vguy always goes full Vetard early.




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I am with Plato on war.

That 1979 coup d 'etat, by the Ayatollah and his forces of doom, was just an exercise in democracy, eh?

Iraq and Iran then shortly fought over something Shia-Sunni........... and muslims killed muslims in that long Iran Iraq war. At least a million died.

I just love the Middle East....."Aberdeen East," is a more accurate name; testing grounds for munitions development.

Muslims in Europe? Great shit.
Iran with the bomb?
That is Da Bomb!!

World History in the making.
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Old December 18, 2017, 23:32   #17
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still delivering as promised--

"...the current system is totally incompatible with national security."

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^^^ Great weekly address and I hope they get it done, asap.

There is MAGA and then there is Lady MAGA.

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Old December 19, 2017, 10:45   #19
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I have a great deal of admiration for Mrs. Trump. She is a gifted lady with class and intelligence.
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Old December 19, 2017, 15:18   #20
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^^^ Great weekly address and I hope they get it done, asap.

There is MAGA and then there is Lady MAGA.

I really like her. She has been a better first lady,like magnatudes better,than any I can think of. I didn't mind Laura Bush,but I think Melania is just better. She possesses a much better grasp of the way things work,internationally,than previous first ladies,and so far,no reports of ridiculous entourages. Michelle Obama,if that even is the real name,would be embarrassing to have as even a neighbor.
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Nancy Reagan was decent enough, but Melania is just pure class, Eastern European accent and all.
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I am with Plato on war.
Nah, just another neocon like William Kristol or John Podhoretz always calling for war and you or your kids never doing the killing or dying.



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We should not bother with regimes that threaten what was won with blood by our forefathers,,, just shit can history for our own small mindedness of what tomorrow holds,,, can you say "useless muther phuckers" who were given what they won't fight to keep or get ?
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... can you say "useless muther phuckers" who were given what they won't fight to keep or get ?
^^^I can. Useless, and because they are there is nothing to be gained by any further involvement with 'em. We can flush 'em now.
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Look, Dostoyefsky, you are more than willing to call for every last Muslim boy of 16 or older in the ME, to take up the AK, and fight the US Imperialists to the death, over there.............. and here.

We know the drill of Islam...............deceive, distract and then strike.
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We know the drill of Islam...............deceive, distract and then strike.
Sounds like the Obama State and Justice Dept.
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