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Old December 17, 2017, 13:03   #1
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Thinking about a Laser Grip for my 1911

I am thinking about buying a laser grip for the 1911 commander model I use for CCW.

I believe Crimson Trace more or less is the market leader, but I recently found out Hogue makes a product as well and there seems to be a big price difference.

So I am looking for opinions and comments on experiences on both products.

The 1911 I use is not a high end, super snob model, I am more of a "blue color" kind of guy and am using a Zenith (Tisas) model that works very well for its intended role. I can see the 3 dot sites very well, but having recently added a laser to my Sar K2 45, I can see the value of the laser site under certain conditions.

Any comments good or bad are greatly appreciated.
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Old December 17, 2017, 13:15   #2
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"LG-401 Colt 1911 & Clones w/ wrap, no finger grooves. Front of grip activation. For Models: 1911 and 1991A1 full-size single-stack frames, including: Auto-Ordance, Les Baer, Colt, Kimber, Olympic Arms, Para-Ordnance, Safari Arms, Sig Sauer, Smith & Wesson, Springfield Armory, Dan Wesson, Wilson, and most other 1911's with grip screws measuring 3 1/16" apart. Fit Notes: If pistol has ambidextrous safety, right-hand lever must be shortened to clear laser. Pre-shortened Ed Brown safeties are available from CTC, but must be fitted by a gunsmith. Technical Specifications: Beam Intensity - 5mw peak, 633nm, class IIIa laser. Maximum output that federal law and technology allow. Dot Size - Approximately 0.5" diameter at 50 feet. Power Source - Two #2032 lithium batteries (included); over four hours of on-time use and a five year shelf life."
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Old December 17, 2017, 13:19   #3
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These guys sell a lot of CTC and they give good deals.

http://www.gungoodies.com/cgi-bin/ez...y.cgi?9X329430
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Old December 17, 2017, 13:33   #4
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Darn...

I did not think about the "ambi" safety...
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Old December 17, 2017, 23:30   #5
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CTC has a model that works with a bobbed ambi safety. I believe it's their "Master series". I have the LG-404 on my 3" Ultra Carry (my CCW and main defense gun) and 4" Compact, and I'm happy with them. Works great, batteries last a long time, and free batteries for life (one set per grip per year).
I also have Meprolight night sights (I tend to go to the iron sights first, laser second). It's good to have options.
As an aside, the night sights really make it easier to grab my gun in the middle of the night! I always know where it is, but the sights make it an easier/sure grab (they glow great). JMHO.
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Old December 18, 2017, 03:18   #6
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Got a laser built into the rear sight, works great, my nighttime Glock.
Might look into those for your 1911.
And can't remember right off who makes them.

Its a Laserlyte, but from looking, they not sell them any more for the 1911???????
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Old December 28, 2017, 11:59   #7
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The need to change the safety for either of the two grip options has me rethinking this.

I found two alternatives I am thinking about.

https://www.streamlight.com/en/produ...-1911-handguns

https://www.recovertactical.com/coll...nt=31965832519


Anyone have any experience with either one?
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Old December 30, 2017, 20:53   #8
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Ok, I have several CTC grips and like them in general, Best thing is that they work with all my existing holsters. For Xmas i got the wife a TLR-6 for her Glock. I have to say it's a nicely thought out unit, still takes funky batteries and with her short fingers it's activation button isn't ideal.

With that said it's working well after 150+ rounds down range and when I tested it for illumination the 100 lumens gave reasonable lighting to ID anyone at the furthest distance in my house (17 yards). And the laser is clearly visible inside the house.
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Old February 18, 2018, 14:46   #9
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It took me a while, but I ordered a set of these:

https://www.laserlyte.com/products/l...-sight-trainer

Right now I just do not have the extra $$$$ for Crimson Trace and I caught a good deal the Laserlyte ones.

I will post an update when they come in.
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Old March 11, 2018, 20:55   #10
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bought a Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry 2 some time ago
came with CT's installed .... Works good !
switch is a bit of a trick to flick rapidly
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Old March 11, 2018, 21:24   #11
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Yep, I'm sure I am going to get flamed all to hell.

Don't get me wrong, I think laser grips are cool. I also think holographic sights on a handgun of fun as hell!

My no BS, "go to" gun will have neither. A decent amount of consistent range time with your sidearm of choice should provide the shooter with the confidence to put rounds on target without a battery operated crutch. Putting rounds on target in a stressful situation has more to do with muscle memory and keeping nerves calm than acquiring a sight picture. If you cannot keep your shit together and have enough training to develop muscle memory, your sight picture, lasers or any other optical whiz-bang goodies are going to little for you other than giving away your position.

Save the $200+++ spend on the laser grip and buy some more ammo and enjoy some time on the range! I'm not being condescending, I'm being honest. Buy ammo, shoot your gun, have fun... and build the foundation to bring damage to the bad guy if shit turns sideways.
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Old March 12, 2018, 01:05   #12
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bought a Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry 2 some time ago
came with CT's installed .... Works good !
switch is a bit of a trick to flick rapidly
Which switch? The main on-off switch?
I never turn off the main switch. It doesn't drain the batteries (and as mentioned above, CT gives free batteries for life. 1 set per year per LG).
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Old March 12, 2018, 06:41   #13
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During my many years of Military Service, I quickly decided Laser Sights were a "No-Go". If you can see well enough to identify your target,you can see your sights.
In dusty/smoky/hazy environments, they leave a trail back to you.
My Home Defense weapons have Flashlights; the interior of a house is very dark vs outdoors; we MUST be sure that the noise/shadowy figure is a Bad Guy, not a kid who got up for a glass of water.
If you cannot POSITIVELY identify your target, DO NOT SHOOT.
If there is enough light to identify your target, there is enough light to see your sights.
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Old March 12, 2018, 09:42   #14
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All,

I appreciate all of the responses, all are very useful.

I went with the Laserlyte product because I caught them on sale on Amazon for 50-60% off, and they were direct replacement for the installed grip panels.

My primary method of targeting is to use the iron sights, but I have started experimenting with how to use the laser sight to fill gaps.

My preference is still to navoid conflict and an armed confrontation, but if there is no other choice, it is better to have options.

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Got to try a pistol grip laser site on a friends gun at the range once. I found the pointing of the red dot on the target distracting. I was looking over the gun to see where it was.

It is much easier to just focus on the front site, to me. Tritium sites are a better investment in my opinion.
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Old March 16, 2018, 22:24   #16
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Which switch? The main on-off switch?
I never turn off the main switch. It doesn't drain the batteries (and as mentioned above, CT gives free batteries for life. 1 set per year per LG).
yep the MAIN . . . this doesn't get used alot so its off in the safe.
BUT didn't know about the free bats, i'll have to check it out !
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Old March 16, 2018, 22:58   #17
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I am thinking about buying a laser grip for the 1911 commander model I use for CCW.

I believe Crimson Trace more or less is the market leader, but I recently found out Hogue makes a product as well and there seems to be a big price difference.

So I am looking for opinions and comments on experiences on both products.

The 1911 I use is not a high end, super snob model, I am more of a "blue color" kind of guy and am using a Zenith (Tisas) model that works very well for its intended role. I can see the 3 dot sites very well, but having recently added a laser to my Sar K2 45, I can see the value of the laser site under certain conditions.

Any comments good or bad are greatly appreciated.
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Get what YOU want and test/use it. you will eventually go thru enough
items / systems over time to find what works for . . . . . YOU !!!
WE ALL DID IT!
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i have a laser gripped gun but its not my edc. the home def gun has
a flash / laser selector TLR-4. the wife has a laser on hers, because
thats what she likes. The thing about lasers . . . you can turn it off,
remove it and go back to the iron sights "any time". She does?
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Kinda like what car you drive, probably not the same as the next guy in line.
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Old March 18, 2018, 20:39   #18
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So far I really like the laser, like you said, I need to test/use it more to get comfortable with it. At least for me it is useful, but has to be used the correct way.

All of the replies, in favor or against have been good to hear.

Thank you everyone.
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