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Old December 09, 2017, 21:34   #1
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Range Report Milsurp Ammo

With the glut of milsurp out there currently I wanted to make some comparisons to see where I should invest the balance of my ammo fun money.

Got to the range on Friday morning. Would have liked a better weather day to level the comparative but had to deal with a quartering wind that was gusting 10-15 MPH out of my 4 o'clock. The temperature was in the mid 70's, range was 100 yards and shooting seated, off a bag supporting the front of the rifle only.

Rifle was an M1A loaded with an 8x Vortex optic; a consistent 2 MOA rifle with factory ammo. Milsurp ammo was Port, Malaysian, PoonSang. My "control" group was PPU 155gn HPBT, a new ammo for me.

I fired 3 rounds to warm the bore and fired 5 shot groups starting top left and working clockwise on the targets with 5 minute cool down between the groups.

The spread on the Port surprised me as I've seen it more consistent in other rifles but could have been a combination of a still cold bore or the gusty wind or shooter error. The Malaysian was the surprise of the group coming in at just over 2 MOA. The Poon was a disappointment with the M1A with first round fired completely off the black. I'll take that one as shooter error. The PPU Match grouped well and were I a better marksman looked to be capable of something approaching 1 MOA.



For round two I fired 3 shots to warm the bore and reversed the process starting with the PPU and working counter-clockwise with the same cool down period between groups. Results were pretty much the same with the Poon the poorest performer in the group, the Malay the pleasant surprise and the Port just inconsistent.



The wind picked up and I switched to my RFB Hunter to get some needed break-in rounds down the pipe. Worth commenting was that the RFB showed similar results with Port, Malay and PPU but shot substantially better grouping with the Poon. Maybe the M1A just didn't like the ammo....
or maybe it was the shooter!

Regardless, I think I'll be laying in more of the Malaysian while it's still available.
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Old December 09, 2017, 21:42   #2
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Thanks for the great range report Mark! It is especially good to know as I got 1,000 rounds of the Malaysian on Black Friday sale.

I have not shot any myself yet, but after your range report, I my "dip back in" for a bit more while it is cheap

PS - If I can get the wife-unit away from the grandkids, I am hoping to go down to the condo between Christmas and NYE. Any chance you and/or Ryan are off that week and can come out to play?
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Old December 09, 2017, 22:03   #3
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PS - If I can get the wife-unit away from the grandkids, I am hoping to go down to the condo between Christmas and NYE. Any chance you and/or Ryan are off that week and can come out to play?
I'm in Brother. Let me know when you confirm plans.
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Just bought a 300 round can of the Malaysian on the cheap.
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Old December 14, 2017, 11:35   #6
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I shot my best offhand score ever(96/100) in a 200 yard match with a 308 Garand shooting Malayan ammo. That stuff shot great.
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Sounds like it might be the Portuguese of the '10's.

I remember when a lot of that stuff was floating around in the late '90's and early '00's on the cheap too.

It shot very well.
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Old December 16, 2017, 10:17   #8
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I turned in a very close to 1 inch grp at 100 with Malay.

1. A beater build knock around FrankenFal.

2.Open sights

3. 64 year old eyes

4. 5 rd grp.

Cycled well in all my 7.62s ie HK91s, FALs. Still need to give it a go around in my M1A.

The stuff is fantastic. After testing I sprang for more.

I will try to take a pic of the target.
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I also like the accuracy of the Malaysian I've bought in the past, but have experienced occasional (1 in 40-50 rds) light primer strikes. This using several FAL rifles and the rounds always fired on the second pass through the gun. Any of you experiencing this with the recent Malay coming in? I bought some of this from SG Ammo a month or so ago but haven't had time to shoot it yet. If the current stuff isn't experiencing the light primer strike issue then I will buy more 😜.

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PS - If I can get the wife-unit away from the grandkids, I am hoping to go down to the condo between Christmas and NYE. Any chance you and/or Ryan are off that week and can come out to play?
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Eyeguy,

I was surprised also with what you got out of the Port. While not apples to apples here is what i got our of my 700 with Port. I intentionally put the cross hair to the left because you really can't see the dot if it is over the middle.

I don't know if you measure groups from center to center of holes or outside diameter but this is outside of the two farthest holes.



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I turned in a very close to 1 inch grp at 100 with Malay.

1. A beater build knock around FrankenFal.

2.Open sights

3. 64 year old eyes

4. 5 rd grp.

Cycled well in all my 7.62s ie HK91s, FALs. Still need to give it a go around in my M1A.

The stuff is fantastic. After testing I sprang for more.

I will try to take a pic of the target.

That can't be true. FALs are 3-70 MOA rifles. The internet said so.
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Eyeguy,

I was surprised also with what you got out of the Port. While not apples to apples here is what i got our of my 700 with Port. I intentionally put the cross hair to the left because you really can't see the dot if it is over the middle.

I don't know if you measure groups from center to center of holes or outside diameter but this is outside of the two farthest holes.



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Nice shootin' James. Sold my last .308 bolt gun last year so nothing to really baseline the Port from. Will say the FAL's I've ran Port through seem to like it better than my M1A. I'll try some through one of my STG's that a known shooter and see how it groups.

For Harleyrider's earlier question, I've experienced no light primer strikes with any of the Malay yet and I'm almost through my first can. Should be good to go.

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Old December 31, 2017, 21:55   #14
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I have better accuracy with the korean than the MAL.
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