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Old October 18, 2017, 09:02   #1
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Current issue Marlin 1895G for $441 ?

Does this look attractive to anyone other than me?
Sold my Trapdoor, looking for another .45-70.
I had an old JM 1895 and prefer Marlin when it comes to lever actions.
This price looks good to me.
Anybody have a modern one like this?
I shoot poofter, home cast lead loads.

http://www.centerfireguns.com/marlin...wal-70462.html

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Lever-action. Compact stow-anywhere design. Side ejection. Tapped solid top receiver. Tubular magazine. Squared finger lever. Hammer block safety. American black walnut stock w/straight grip cut-checkering & Mar-Shield® finish. Vented recoil pad. Swivel studs. Ambidextrous offset hammer spur. Adjustable semi-buckhorn rear ramp front sight w/brass bead & Wide-Scan® hood. Barrel w/deep-cut Ballard-type rifling. Wt.: 7 lbs. Includes: gun lock.
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Old October 18, 2017, 09:21   #2
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I have an an older JM marked 45/70. As long as Remington has upped their production standards since absorbing Marlin it should be a fine rifle. Their initial year or so run after they took over was fairly spotty from what I have read elsewhere. If it's a newer production then I think U'll be OK. Price is good.
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Old October 18, 2017, 09:52   #3
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A buddy of mine has a Stainless Guide Gun. Its beautiful. Excellent bear medicine. Wish I had a use for one.
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Old October 18, 2017, 10:04   #4
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That's a good price too, I'm waiting to get enough bass pro points to get one at Christmas, its $599 there
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Old October 18, 2017, 12:25   #5
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A head's up.

After some research, last night, I'm not overly confident in ordering from *centerfireguns* linked in the OP.
If I get squirrelly and order one, I'll pay a couple bucks extra and go with a known quantity.
Also still pondering rolling blocks, sharps, 1885's and the like.

There are a couple other sources with similar pricing, as linked below.

$442.54 + free shipping

https://www.tombstonetactical.com/ca...---4+1-18-wal/

$446.99 + $14.95 shipping (I don't know this seller - has good feedback)

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/709356071
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Old October 19, 2017, 09:04   #7
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I’ve got a 2009 Marlin Guide Gun. Love it.

If so, I would try to buy a used one that’s 2009 or before. Around the time when
Remington started to make them, they were having issues.
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Old October 19, 2017, 09:19   #8
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I’ve got a 2009 Marlin Guide Gun. Love it.

If so, I would try to buy a used one that’s 2009 or before. Around the time when
Remington started to make them, they were having issues.
My research on current production says, they got their shit together with the 1895's at Remington.

Is this incorrect?
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Old October 19, 2017, 11:15   #9
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I need one of these. Badly. Add a $20 safety eliminator and have an awesome gun! This model lacks the ported barrel, best I can tell, which is preferable to me.

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I need one of these. Badly. Add a $20 safety eliminator and have an awesome gun! This model lacks the ported barrel, best I can tell, which is preferable to me.

Eli
I prefer no ports, too.

Hey, I like this!
http://beartoothmercantile-2.myshopi...r-marlin-rifle

Hey, I like this better!
https://beartoothmercantile-2.myshop...-safety-delete

Another option.
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/ta...olt_safety.htm
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Couldn't take it...went to Grabagun.

https://grabagun.com/marlin-1895g-45...-bl-70462.html
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Old October 19, 2017, 12:50   #12
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I need another lever like a hole in the head. I finally got my childhood rifle, my Grandpa's 1950s straight stock 336C here along with my 94 and repro 1860, 66, and 86. I'm about full up on American Classics.

But that's a helluva price for a thumper

And nothing in this world says "Murca" like a good old fashioned levergun.
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I have an older one that I love and a friend bought a new Stainless - it has very sharp edges on the lever and we spent some time breaking the sharps and repolishing - so if you get a blued gun check it first.

The stainless shot fine.
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I'm about full up on American Classics.
And the Sharps!
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Old October 19, 2017, 18:14   #15
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damnnit !

I've been "jonesing" for a .45-70 guide gun .......

and you guys just hafta chum the waters .....

my wallet can't take it, it just had a coronary ...... now I'll never get one
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I wish they'd make that with the grip like the 336s have. One I shot beat my hands up. Good price though.
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I've never been a fan of a pistol grip on a lever gun. To me, it just doesn't "fit". Straight military stocks for me every time.
But hey, that's why this is the greatest Country in the world: We are (still) "allowed" to own guns and we have a multitude of choices on how we want it laid out.
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I wonder if they use the same lever dimensions? And if a 336 stock would fit it?
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That's a damn handsome-lookin' rifle. Too bad I've got my eye on a High Wall...
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Has Marlin dropped the .444? I don't see it on their website.
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Fodder for the .45-70 http://www.garrettcartridges.com/penetration.html

http://www.garrettcartridges.com/4570.html
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My research on current production says, they got their shit together with the 1895's at Remington.

Is this incorrect?
Maybe, I don't know..........
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My research on current production says, they got their shit together with the 1895's at Remington.

Is this incorrect?
Survey says....incorrect. Want a good one? Get a real Marlin....before Remington took over.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...in-1895-barrel
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We'll, we will soon see.
I inspected 2 slightly different but new guide guns at lgs and fit and finish we're great for "inexpensive" rifles.
Did not look down the bore though!
I'll report my findings in this thread once it is in my grubby mitts.
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Forgot to mention, the nice triggers on the 2 examples I inspected, which is good for trigger snobs like me.

Also found this article, this morning.

http://gunblast.com/Marlin-1895CB.htm
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Reporting back, as promised.

Marlin is ready for the range (have not shot it yet).
Impressions...
Fit and finish is nice with the exception of sharp edges on the lever.
Walnut is very good, checkering is passable, bore looks well cut, muzzle crown is good, trigger is decent, the lever is tight but smoothing with use.

What I did.

Replace OEM sights with Skinner Guide Gun set (sight picture is fantastic!)
Eliminate OEM safety with a delete kit.
Add a hammer extension.
Install a dovetail filler blank.
Smooth and break all the sharp edges on the lever and remove the blued finish.
Slather the walnut with Howard Feed & Wax a couple times.

Looking forward to some range time and hope not to freeze my arse.

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Also still pondering rolling blocks, sharps, 1885's and the like.
If you do decide to go that direction down the road some basic advice:

You can break .45-70 single shots down to three basic strengths.

The weakest are trapdoors, original or modern...they are all extremely weak actions.

The next step up is Rolling Blocks, Ballards & Sharps
Sharps has a slight edge in strength however it's still not a super strong action even in modern steel.
Rolling Blocks ?
depends...
probably the strongest of those were the Swedish actions that were rebuilt and rehardened for smokeless in the late 1880s. Better than the Remington #5 actions as well as any Eye-Talian knock off...just incredible steel.
Martinis are in this level as well.

The strongest ?
Sharps Broschardts, High Walls, Wickliffe among a few others
these can handle near magnum level loads.

Modern Marlins are are damn strong, they can handle magnum fodder but will eventually fail. By far the strongest are the bolt actions built on Siamese Mausers though, those are incredibly tough.
Cousin was into these back in the 70s. He had a retarded case of good ole' American magnumitus.
Actions NEVER failed but he was constantly shattering custom stocks running loads well in excess of .458 Winchester Magnum.

Myself I'm partial to Remington Rolling Blocks sporting rifles
only repros of those worth two shits were the Lone Star clones but they have not been made for some years. Owner/operator of that Texican family company passed on, wife sold all the assets maybe mid 2000s ?

Another pretty cool one are the CPA versions of the Stevens 44 1/2
Shuttleworth redesigned the 44 1/2 action to be slightly wider to accomidate the .45 case. Great guns, totally hand built and the cool angle is they like the original Stevens guns are take down, loosen one screw then hand turn the barrel out from the action. This also means rapid caliber changes. Most parts interchange with original guns as well.

If you want to go High Wall Winchester, the only repro worth considering are those SD Meacham used to manufacture in Idaho...another artist built firearm. Pretty sure he sold his tooling off to some outfit in Cody WY. They were mindblowing quality builds.

Any of these won't come cheap, 2K plus minimum for these American craftsman built rifles but you get exactly what you pay for.
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I've only owned US Springfield Trapdoors and Marlin 1895's in .45-70 Govt. but have often been fascinated by many others that made the transition from holy black to smokeless. The Sharps designs are pretty and awesome and pretty awesome. A Ruger No. 1 wouldn't be out of the question either.
Anyway, I'm just plinking plates with light cast bullet loads and shooting occasional groups. This Guide Gun should keep me interested and occupied for awhile.

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I really like my 1895, killed a couple of deer DRT with it. Handloaded warmish 350 grain SP as I recall. Also have a couple of .444s, 336es in .35 & 30-30, and of course a 39A. Also quite a few Savage 99s in various calibers, yeah I like levers. There is also a Ruger #3 around here somewhere, I have never shot it.
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I had a guide gun and hated it. In .45-70, the straight wrist transfered all the recoil to my hand. I sold it, then bought a full size with the pistol-grip wrist, and cut it down to 16".


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The only other rifle I currently own with a straight-ish stock / wrist is a US Krag but of course, it's a whole nuther animal.

Some range time will soon tell if my wrist can bear the wrist.
I have walnut alternatives at hand for swapping if needs be.
My loads are on the lighter side, anyhow.
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I have a Remmy made standard model 1895 and could not be happier with it...
The most accurate lever gun I've ever owned, bar none, including Savage 99's and Winny 88's. Damn thing shoots clover leaves with just about anything I've tried, cast or jacketed.

I've owned a bunch of older Marlins over the years, most all in 30-30 or 35rem..I finally gave up messing with them, because all must have been lemons...Not a single one could ever do better than 3" groups and a few were closer to double that...Or even worse with cast bullets.

While I like the nostalgia, history and looks of the old lever guns, my Remmy 95 is the only lever action that I own....Probable because pie plate size groups just dont hold my interest very long, no matter the history or nostalgia.
Even to include the 35 Marlin that was my Dad's..
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Ck CDNNSPORTS.COM they have good prices.
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Watched "Wind River" the other day.

Super movie. Got me looking at this model.

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Out of stock now. Probably because of the movie.
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