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Old May 17, 2013, 01:09   #1
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*Almost finished* Mosin nagant project

So busy at work I have little time to work on this project but finally making some progress. I got a 7.62X39 barrel blank from Green Mountain and finally have it turned, threaded, cut for extractor, and chambered for the original 7.62X54R. I relocated the bolt handle and installed a scope mount that I machined to fit from a blank rail and everything lined up just right. The bolt handle was a rough casting from Green Mountain as well and couldn't beat the $2.50 price tag. Now it has a sturdy scope mount that will work with medium height rings. I have a new stock from Boyds but still need to enlarge the barrel channel before trying to bed the action to the stock. I hope to assemble, park, and spray ceracoat on it sometime next week if time allows.
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Old May 19, 2013, 13:22   #2
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I am really surprised no one has commented on your build yet! That is some excellent looking work on a fascinating build. Please continue to post updates as the build progresses.

I have long wondered how much potential there is in the old Mosins and what it would take to unlock said potential.

I've got my popcorn out and I am taking notes!
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Old May 19, 2013, 18:33   #3
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That looks way too good to be a Nagant.

I like how you moved the bolt handle back and then made a rear bridge.

If you can modify the cocking piece, no-one will ever be able to pick it as a Nagant.

Looks like Ugly Betty has turned into Elle McPherson. Well done.
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Old May 20, 2013, 19:28   #4
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Looks like a good project. Keep up the pics...
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Old May 21, 2013, 23:25   #5
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Nice work - as long as you have the barrel off you might consider threading it.
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Old May 23, 2013, 18:17   #6
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Very nice! Refreshing to see some quality custom work on a Mosin action. It is very over looked and often cast aside for the run of the mill Mauser sporter.
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Old July 30, 2013, 17:37   #7
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Well the mosin project ended up on the back burner for quite some time but I finally got back to working on it last week and finished putting it together. I still need to bed the action and also need to do some more inletting to the barrel channel as it is not quite full floating but I did manage to fire a few rounds through it to check for function. I planned to sight it in and then bring it home and bed the action to the stock but a family emergency came up suddenly so never even got to sight it in to see how it shoots. Oh well next weekend I can get that done I hope. I snapped one picture with my phone but will take better photos when I get it 100% finished. It turned out pretty well and total cost was well under the $500 budget using a cheap bushnell scope.
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Old July 30, 2013, 18:01   #8
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Old July 30, 2013, 19:00   #9
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That is awesome I have been thinking about picking one up to play with which ones should I avoid? And which ones are the better ones to get? I was thinking go Russian? What do you need to do to change the caliber? Barrel and what do you do from there?
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Old July 30, 2013, 19:50   #10
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I'd look for rearsenaled Finn - or guns made after WW2 for best condition.
I picked up my M38 and the bore was drilled back and shot OK but not as well as when shortened up and recrowned.

http://www.russian-mosin-nagant-forum.com/

http://7.62x54r.net/Forums/index.php?board=1.0

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewforum.php?f=28

You can get as crazy as you want.
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Old July 31, 2013, 14:23   #11
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Thanks for the links and info is see one in my future
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Old July 31, 2013, 16:05   #12
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Man, that's cool!
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Old August 01, 2013, 16:33   #13
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very cool , I need to look at the cost to do a mosin conversion to something optics friendly. Every so often I see myself adding a can off silver tip to my AIM orders for the low cost compared to 7.62 NATO
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Old August 04, 2013, 23:27   #14
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I finally finished up the rifle this past weekend and did some shooting. I bedded the action and finished the barrel channel to float the barrel on Friday afternoon and today after almost 48hrs I went to sight it in. The first couple of shots showed my mistake in machining the scope base and it shot way too low with not adjustment in the scope to get it right. I did some work to the scope base and fixed that issue and after two rounds I had it sighted in at 100yrds. The next two rounds hit touching each other using new PPU 182gr ammo but then the next two were a couple of inches low to the left but still grouped together. The rifle would hold zero for 2 or 3 rounds then would go crazy and shoot high or low but still grouping well. I am suspecting the cheap bushnell scope I installed is not handling the recoil very well or at least that's what I am hoping at the moment. Everything is nice and tight and I cannot find any flaws with the rifle or the scope base so when I got home tonight I ordered a better scope and will try again next weekend to see if it is in fact a flaw with the optics or if I sucked at building the rifle. Oh and I also discovered the thin butt pad that came with the Boyds stock is lacking and after 30 rounds my shoulder is a bit sore. That cartridge has some pretty decent recoil! I ordered a good decelerator pad to install because I am getting old and becoming a damn sissy!
I took a few better pictures of the rifle today
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Old August 05, 2013, 00:06   #15
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Congrats on the build! She looks great! This makes me want to finish mine even more
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Old August 08, 2013, 01:21   #16
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First of all - awesome job, it looks great!

"The rifle would hold zero for 2 or 3 rounds then would go crazy and shoot high or low but still grouping well"

That sounds like EVERY 91/30 Mosin I own, the bbl "wanders" as it heats up.
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Old August 08, 2013, 07:50   #17
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I agree-- that's a beautiful job.

A question about the cocking piece-- Could the guide rib be ground down flush with the action body, and maybe gain both streamlining and lock speed?
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A question about the cocking piece-- Could the guide rib be ground down flush with the action body, and maybe gain both streamlining and lock speed?
According to the some of the guys on different Mosin forums, cutting that tab off does reduce locking time. I haven't really noticed that on mine, but yes. You can make it flush
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Old August 08, 2013, 19:04   #19
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According to the some of the guys on different Mosin forums, cutting that tab off does reduce locking time. I haven't really noticed that on mine, but yes. You can make it flush
It's part of the original safety mechanism I think.
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It's part of the original safety mechanism I think.
Yep, and controls striker orientation IIRC. I was just thinking that grinding it down flush with the top of the receiver (not cutting it off entirely) would reduce striker assembly mass, speed lock time, and also streamline the rear of the action.

I'm getting half-tempted to go up to a place locally and buy one, just to whittle on.

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Old August 08, 2013, 22:23   #21
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Wow, that is one nice Mosin! I am officially jealous.

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Old August 09, 2013, 18:59   #22
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Thank you for the kind comments on the build. As for the discussion about grinding down the cocking piece I am thinking that is something I should do as well. Aside from the reduced lock time looking at the pictures that think kinda sticks out like a sore thumb! Excellent idea Shlomo and I will work on that piece in the near future. The new scope arrived today and while it's not a high dollar Leupold it hopefully is better built than the inexpensive Bushnell that is on it currently. I bought a mid-priced Vortex which I have had good luck with in the past and keeping my fingers crossed that it helps the rifle hold zero better.
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Can you post pics of the bolt with the handle welded on? I am trying to do the same thing right now with a mosin carbine I am working on and would like a little help planning out how I will do the bolt handle move.
Have you found that the bolt is easier to lift with this done?
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That project looks great, excellent work. I cant wait to see if the new scope helped the problem, please keep us posted.
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Well I bought a Mosin Nagant Saturday basically this post got me fired up to build one
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WOW! that is nice!
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Can you post pics of the bolt with the handle welded on? I am trying to do the same thing right now with a mosin carbine I am working on and would like a little help planning out how I will do the bolt handle move.
Have you found that the bolt is easier to lift with this done?
Here are some pictures of the bolt so hope this helps. I used a bolt handle from green mountain and modified it a bit to fit and it worked perfect and it was damn cheap too! Bolt handle can be found here:
http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/greenmo...handle-casting
I used the little cheap Bernzomatic brazing torch that uses the small mapp gas and oxygen bottles and nickel/silver brazing rods and it was easy to install and it holds up very well.


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I will be following in your footsteps, love what did with it and thanks for the pictures.
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Old September 05, 2013, 12:00   #29
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Beautiful rifle... and really good-looking work. Congrats! That wood is beyond belief on that "refurbed" rifle!
Aquestion.. I know the Mosin action as well as the next Mosin shooter.. I must ask- where is or what are you using as a safety (never a strong point of the Mosin system!)? Or am I missing something?
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WOW!! Well Done!! Congrats!
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That is super nice! Job well done!
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Old September 06, 2013, 18:51   #32
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Beautiful rifle... and really good-looking work. Congrats! That wood is beyond belief on that "refurbed" rifle!
Aquestion.. I know the Mosin action as well as the next Mosin shooter.. I must ask- where is or what are you using as a safety (never a strong point of the Mosin system!)? Or am I missing something?
I installed a Timney trigger that has a safety so I was able to do away with the original safety using a lathe.
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That bolt handle looks fantastic
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I'm jealous of all you rotten so-and-sos.
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That cartridge has some pretty decent recoil! I ordered a good decelerator pad to install because I am getting older and wiser.
Fixed that for you.
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