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Old July 19, 2012, 08:02   #1
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Hesse FAL....

Yes,I know...but wondering,how bad are Hesse FALs?

If the rifle is in operating condition,what would it be worth?
I know it takes a big hit due to that infamous name but how big a hit?

Seller is thinking it is gold,or at least gold plated because it comes with "weaver scope base, dsa rear sight, upgraded charging handle, utg quad rail, Surefire light, military grip pod systems vfg and 11 twenty round mags"

It is also a Century build he states.

I was looking to trade some stuff,but that most likely won't happen.
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Old July 19, 2012, 08:14   #2
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The miscellaneous add-ons add very little to the market value.

The Hesse receiver is a black mark even if it functions.

I would not touch it without a 100 round function test.

Some of them actually work just fine.
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Old July 19, 2012, 08:17   #3
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I have been out of the loop on FALs,mags are more $$$ now I see.

The rest of the stuff is,well stuff,and like you said not added value really.

I don't think I will bother,he is a little too proud of it in his emails.

Thanks.
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Old July 19, 2012, 10:01   #4
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any rifle i come across with a hesse/vulcan/etc receiver i automatically assume i am looking at a parts kit and offer accordingly. the receiver is worth what a recycle yard will give you for the metal.
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Old July 19, 2012, 10:08   #5
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any rifle i come across with a hesse/vulcan/etc receiver i automatically assume i am looking at a parts kit and offer accordingly. the receiver is worth what a recycle yard will give you for the metal.
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Old July 19, 2012, 10:08   #6
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I agree with fnbelgian. Unless it was super cheap, I wouldn't touch it.
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Old July 19, 2012, 14:37   #7
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I have taken a chance & built 4 of them......never had a minutes trouble. Shoot great & cheap too. What more could you ask for. Now Century-made on the other hand has been a different story.....unless a Argy or Imbel built they are all a POS.

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Old July 19, 2012, 14:49   #8
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I have a Imbel with Hesse receiver never had any issues. May be this is the only Century built one that runs excellent LOL.

Used Hesse receivers sell for $200 + in the marketplace I don't understand that.
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Old July 19, 2012, 15:17   #9
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Hesse is fine if it works. Dude thinking that it is worth anything extra for anything but the mags is foolish. If you can get a function test and get it for $650, I'd do it. Have him sell the rest of the bolt on stuff elsewhere.
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Old July 19, 2012, 15:22   #10
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I will keep my para with the Hesse XX Match master supreme receiver, it shoots as well as any of the others.
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Old July 19, 2012, 17:46   #11
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I have a friend in NC with one and after hundreds of rounds, he has not had any trouble with it.

Would a Hesse receiver be good for one of those 22 FAL rifles discussed on FALFILES? After seeing the other thread on the 22 FAL in England, I was wondering if a Hesse would be a good candidate for one. Any reason why it wouldn't be good for a 22 rifle if the Williams ones are?

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Old July 19, 2012, 18:41   #12
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own a hesse, it has widow peaks not unibrow , and runs at like the 85 % confidence level ... stay away from unibrow

with that said i would not grab the hesse in the dead of night to save my life....

but dont m1a's jam with bad ammo, dont other guns jam here and there...



what is it worth? as cheap as you can get it for!

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Old July 19, 2012, 19:18   #13
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That's the thing,he is pricing it as if it was an Imbel receiver FAL.
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Old July 19, 2012, 19:18   #14
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They sell for $550-$700 on GB. So if he is asking more, then good luck to him.

I agree with WEG, you need to see proof it functions. If she functions, you should be fine. If you ever decide to sell it, plan on doing the same.
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Old July 19, 2012, 20:39   #15
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I have a Hesse built by Hesse

Never did run right. Latest thing I discovered was that the hammer is sawing the trigger spring tube in half. Wtf. I call it "Click".

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Old July 24, 2012, 00:00   #16
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Some of the Hesse guns were actually built on Imbel receivers. Not many, as I understand it, but a few - mostly early production ones. I have one.



I suspect mine was intended as a press/review rifle as it seems to have been built exceptionally well for a Hesse. Ed Vandenberg checked it over recently and the only thing he noted wrong with it was an undersized locking shoulder. The single digit serial number lends some support to that as well ("H 000*").

I suppose the moral is to check it carefully before discarding a Hesse out of hand. You might get lucky and find an Imbel receiver with some parts flying in formation with it.

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Old July 24, 2012, 00:11   #17
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I bought a partially completed Hesse G-1 from Dogbrain. After the Ghillie treatment on the rails, it ran like a top. I had to come up with some more small parts to finish it, but all in all it ended up being a more expensive G-1 then it should've been. I traded it for a Daewoo Max-II, and went back to SLRs.
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Old July 24, 2012, 06:50   #18
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I have a Rhodie (had... sold it to a friend) on a cheap Hesse and it worked great. I would avoid it though because if he as all the crap on it he probably thinks it is worth a lot more than it is and you can get a good FAL here on the marketplace without having to deal with that sort of crap.
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I think he does believe it is worth more than it is.
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