misspelled fal

Bobble · June 25, 2012, 20:03

I have Browning imported fal. The stamp reads "Browning Arms Compagny Arnold Missouri and Montreal P.Q." if anyone has info it would be nice to learn the history of this weapon.

**VALMET** · June 25, 2012, 20:24

Is it dual import marked?

mills41 · June 25, 2012, 21:17

Oh oh now you've done it!You've bumped the bee hive.Actually what you have is a type 2 FN-FAL Belgian rifle.You have a very desireable and valuable rifle if in its original condition and hasn't been modified,mills41.

CharlieK27x · June 25, 2012, 21:54

A Type II Belgian?!? Oh dear god.

**genethepoolcleaner** · June 25, 2012, 21:56

Come on guy's i need more info with pic's

GTPC

**FALonious** · June 26, 2012, 05:46

Yup.....pics or it never happened.

**KIT** · June 26, 2012, 18:39

Another lovely Type 2. Would love to get the SN if you don't mind sharing. I suspect it may have 2 sets of numbers; one that is 7 digits which begins with a 250 prefix and another that is 5 digits which begins with 146 or 147.

Cheers

-KIT-

Bobble · July 09, 2012, 17:18

Ok I have an FAL on one side it is stamped 308 match with a serial number. On the other side it says Browning Arms Compagny Arnold Missouri and Montreal P Q. Above that it says Steyr Secaucus N J. I found an "L" stamped where the serial number is found on the "G" series.

Bobble · July 09, 2012, 18:03

The serial numbers: fabrique nationale belgique 2500116
The other side 308 match 14661
I have to subscribe to be able to post pics. But I am working on it.

**KIT** · July 09, 2012, 18:55

Thanks for sharing the SN information. I have one that is only 10 numbers apart from yours with SN: 250126 / 14671.

The Type 2 FAL's are beautiful rifles.

Cheers

-KIT-

**VALMET** · July 09, 2012, 20:07

I've never seen a Type 2 with the Secaucus NJ address. KIT can you shed some light here? I'm guessing it would be immediately after Steyr moved from Grand Rapids circa 1972-73?

CharlieK27x · July 09, 2012, 20:19

Photos...photos!!!!!

**SPEEDGUNNER** · July 10, 2012, 08:23

Deltaten · July 10, 2012, 18:20

Pix??
WTF? Ya guys act like it's something different! OK..it *is* an interesting piece; but geeze..it's a type 2 Belgian FAL.... not some two-headed, alien issued plasma rifel !
Go look at the DSA catalog fer crissake and get yer tongues offa the screen.

**KIT** · July 10, 2012, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by VALMET

I've never seen a Type 2 with the Secaucus NJ address. KIT can you shed some light here? I'm guessing it would be immediately after Steyr moved from Grand Rapids circa 1972-73?

Good point. Typically the early examples were marked 'Grand Rapids'. I'll check the markings on SN: 250126 / 14671 when I get home this week and advise.

Cheers

Mark

IanMor · July 11, 2012, 07:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobble

I have to subscribe to be able to post pics. But I am working on it.

Just get a photo hosting account like Photobucket. It's free, and then you can post the pics here.

Douglas Wozny · July 11, 2012, 08:49

I also have a FN FAL with the misspelling. Will try to sneak by the saber tooth cat, the Dire wolf and cave bear and post the serial number this evening.

Right side below ejection port: STEYR SECAUCUS N.J. above BROWNING ARMS COMPAGNY / ARNOLD, MISSOURI AND MONTREAL P.Q on magazine well. Same side 2500299. What is this number? Left side 14844. What is this number?

Not three wives, just a very effective theft preventon system.

Growler Gator · July 11, 2012, 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas Wozny

I also have a FN FAL with the misspelling. Will try to sneak by the saber tooth cat, the Dire wolf and cave bear and post the serial number this evening.

You have 3 wives?

Bobble · July 11, 2012, 17:17

You guys are awesome to talk to!

**MK ULTRA** · July 11, 2012, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobble

You guys are awesome to talk to!

Yes and you will be awesome too if you will post some pics.

**KIT** · July 19, 2012, 23:03

OK, I checked the markings on my Type 2 SN: 250126 / 14671 and did not find any other importer related markings on it other than the "Browning Arms Compagny-Arnold Missouri and Montreal P Q." on the magwell. No mention of Steyr.

I also checked Type 2 SN: 2500133 / 14678 which is the next closest SN that I have and in addition to the "Browning Arms Compagny" markings on the magwell it is marked (stamped) ''EJK Devco'' on the barrel between the front sight and flash-hider.

Steyr's American offices were located in Grand Rapids,MI before they relocated to Secaucus, NJ so it would be logical to assume that all of the earliest Type 2 receivered examples would be marked as such. That said as we so often note about the FAL "nothing is certain & never say never". Given what we have seen with respect to serial numbering and North American FN FAL importers not all rifles were imported with sequential serial numbers and it was not uncommon to utilze an earlier serial number on a rifle imported at a later date.

Cheers

-KIT-

FAL freek · July 20, 2012, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobble

You guys are awesome to talk to!

You won't think that if you take a gander into the Politics forum.

Badasspara · July 23, 2012, 17:44

Some folks have all the luck...If it's what we're thinking it is clutch it close to your chest and don't ever let go!

June 25, 2012, 20:03	#1
Bobble Registered FALaholic #: 66591 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Harrisburg PA Posts: 6	misspelled fal I have Browning imported fal. The stamp reads "Browning Arms Compagny Arnold Missouri and Montreal P.Q." if anyone has info it would be nice to learn the history of this weapon.

June 25, 2012, 20:24	#2
VALMET Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 1826 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 356	Is it dual import marked? __________________ "That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is a symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." -George Orwell, 1940.

June 25, 2012, 21:54	#4
CharlieK27x Registered FALaholic #: 37916 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fountain, CO Posts: 641	A Type II Belgian?!? Oh dear god. __________________ "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." - George Washington -

June 25, 2012, 21:56	#5
genethepoolcleaner UnReconstructed Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 63022 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Northern Nevada but Alabama is home Posts: 595	Come on guy's i need more info with pic's GTPC __________________ Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War; will be impressed by all the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision. -General Pat Cleburne, CSA

June 26, 2012, 05:46	#6
FALonious In His Grip Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 51017 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MI Posts: 1,534	Yup.....pics or it never happened. __________________ "Originally posted by blueyedfaler" That is really an issue to you guys?? Do you ever build a gun or just collect "kits"?

June 25, 2012, 21:17	#3
mills41 Registered FALaholic #: 16208 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 386	Oh oh now you've done it!You've bumped the bee hive.Actually what you have is a type 2 FN-FAL Belgian rifle.You have a very desireable and valuable rifle if in its original condition and hasn't been modified,mills41.

June 26, 2012, 18:39	#7
KIT Silver Contributor Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 8264 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Rocky Mount,VA Posts: 1,835	Another lovely Type 2. Would love to get the SN if you don't mind sharing. I suspect it may have 2 sets of numbers; one that is 7 digits which begins with a 250 prefix and another that is 5 digits which begins with 146 or 147. Cheers -KIT- Last edited by KIT; July 09, 2012 at 18:56.

July 09, 2012, 17:18	#8
Bobble Registered FALaholic #: 66591 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Harrisburg PA Posts: 6	Ok I have an FAL on one side it is stamped 308 match with a serial number. On the other side it says Browning Arms Compagny Arnold Missouri and Montreal P Q. Above that it says Steyr Secaucus N J. I found an "L" stamped where the serial number is found on the "G" series.

July 09, 2012, 18:03	#9
Bobble Registered FALaholic #: 66591 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Harrisburg PA Posts: 6	The serial numbers: fabrique nationale belgique 2500116 The other side 308 match 14661 I have to subscribe to be able to post pics. But I am working on it.

July 09, 2012, 18:55	#10
KIT Silver Contributor Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 8264 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Rocky Mount,VA Posts: 1,835	Thanks for sharing the SN information. I have one that is only 10 numbers apart from yours with SN: 250126 / 14671. The Type 2 FAL's are beautiful rifles. Cheers -KIT-

July 09, 2012, 20:07	#11
VALMET Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 1826 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 356	I've never seen a Type 2 with the Secaucus NJ address. KIT can you shed some light here? I'm guessing it would be immediately after Steyr moved from Grand Rapids circa 1972-73? __________________ "That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is a symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." -George Orwell, 1940.

July 09, 2012, 20:19	#12
CharlieK27x Registered FALaholic #: 37916 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fountain, CO Posts: 641	Photos...photos!!!!! __________________ "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." - George Washington -

July 10, 2012, 08:23	#13
SPEEDGUNNER Firearms Connoisseur Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 43933 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Scenic Chester County PA Posts: 1,369	__________________ "There's a race of men that don't fit in, A race that can't stay still; So they break the hearts of kith and kin, And they roam the world at will." - Robert Service

July 10, 2012, 18:20	#14
Deltaten Registered FALaholic #: 124 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lancaster, PA USA Posts: 8,502	Pix?? WTF? Ya guys act like it's something different! OK..it is an interesting piece; but geeze..it's a type 2 Belgian FAL.... not some two-headed, alien issued plasma rifel ! Go look at the DSA catalog fer crissake and get yer tongues offa the screen. __________________ All or Nothing! Senator McCarthy was right! and as always......FYB!

July 11, 2012, 08:49	#17
Douglas Wozny Registered FALaholic #: 4255 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Colorado Springs CO Posts: 384	I also have a FN FAL with the misspelling. Will try to sneak by the saber tooth cat, the Dire wolf and cave bear and post the serial number this evening. Right side below ejection port: STEYR SECAUCUS N.J. above BROWNING ARMS COMPAGNY / ARNOLD, MISSOURI AND MONTREAL P.Q on magazine well. Same side 2500299. What is this number? Left side 14844. What is this number? Not three wives, just a very effective theft preventon system. __________________ The Wizard Air Dropable AND Ground Recoverable War is an act of force and to the application of that force there is no limit! So say the philosophers (Carl von Clausewitz b 1780 d 1831) of war. Necat omnes! Deus suos agnoscet. The application of the proper amount of high explosives can solve any problem. Last edited by Douglas Wozny; July 12, 2012 at 07:35.

July 11, 2012, 17:17	#19
Bobble Registered FALaholic #: 66591 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Harrisburg PA Posts: 6	You guys are awesome to talk to!

July 19, 2012, 23:03	#21
KIT Silver Contributor Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 8264 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Rocky Mount,VA Posts: 1,835	OK, I checked the markings on my Type 2 SN: 250126 / 14671 and did not find any other importer related markings on it other than the "Browning Arms Compagny-Arnold Missouri and Montreal P Q." on the magwell. No mention of Steyr. I also checked Type 2 SN: 2500133 / 14678 which is the next closest SN that I have and in addition to the "Browning Arms Compagny" markings on the magwell it is marked (stamped) ''EJK Devco'' on the barrel between the front sight and flash-hider. Steyr's American offices were located in Grand Rapids,MI before they relocated to Secaucus, NJ so it would be logical to assume that all of the earliest Type 2 receivered examples would be marked as such. That said as we so often note about the FAL "nothing is certain & never say never". Given what we have seen with respect to serial numbering and North American FN FAL importers not all rifles were imported with sequential serial numbers and it was not uncommon to utilze an earlier serial number on a rifle imported at a later date. Cheers -KIT-

July 23, 2012, 17:44	#23
Badasspara Registered FALaholic #: 34085 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SC Posts: 203	Some folks have all the luck...If it's what we're thinking it is clutch it close to your chest and don't ever let go!

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