enfield collectors

nicshorse · March 03, 2002, 17:24

any of you enfield collectors know where i can get a #3 bolt head for a no4 mk1*. i like this rifle but it has a problem with case head separation. it may not be a collectors dream but it is the first rifle i ever bought and i am quite attached to it . any help would be greatly appriciated.

nicshorse · March 03, 2002, 18:26

currently have a #1 bolt head . it is seperating the case head and blowing hot gas from the breach end. have a no5 that had the same problem and a #3 bolt head fixed the problem.it doesn't do it all the time . it mostly does it with new remington or winchester ammo . when i reload i only do it for the no5and not for this paticular rifle . this one only gets brand new stuff . then i throw away the brass as it has a ring around the head area or is blown out completely .

[ March 03, 2002: Message edited by: nicshorse ]

7idl · March 04, 2002, 20:41

From the Gun Parts Corp. Catalog (#23, page 867)

Quote:

LENGTHENED BOLT HEADS FOR SMLE MODEL 4 AND 5 RIFLES
Original size 3 bolt head. Blued steel, stripped, new condition.
ITEM#254230 $18.65

http://www.e-gunparts.com

fubar · March 05, 2002, 11:50

These guys have a lot of Enfield parts and the different sized bolt heads for the No. 4

Springfield Sporters Inc.
2257 Springfield Rd.
Penn Run, PA 15765
Phone (724)-254-2626
Fax (724)-254-9173

Dean P · March 07, 2002, 02:11

Don't fire that old enfield rifle untill you do head space it. Man you are living on barrowed time.

fubar · March 07, 2002, 07:24

Actually, Enfields have a "trench" (oversize) chamber to allow the rifle to work in poor field conditions and will headspace on the loose side even when new. They're also designed to handle ruptured cartridges well too. Ever wonder what the little hole on the left side of the Knox form is for? A Gas port to allow gas escape in the event of a ruptured cartridge. The rifles handle it SO well there have been people who have shot an entire magazine and not known they were getting ruptured cases until they picked up their brass later. I'm not advocating that you keep shooting the hell out of it, just saying that (a little, not alot) long headspace Enfield isn't as big a deal as it would be with other guns. If you're getting gas coming from around the breech it's WAY long though!

[ March 07, 2002: Message edited by: Fubar ]

**EMDII** · March 07, 2002, 16:07

Try Brian at BDL Ltd. he has a HUGE building full of Enfields and parts, and is also an importer.

Dean P · March 07, 2002, 19:44

I think your wife need's to increase your insurance.

nicshorse · March 10, 2002, 11:24

dean p, i don't fire it any more . i didi't notice the problem until i started reloading. used to just leave the brass laying after i fired it . since it was my first rifle i thought every thing was normal,(even the hot gas part) until i started picking up the brass then i asked a gunsmith if the state of the brass was normal . of course he said no . he told me to get a different bolt head . put the gun in the closet and didn't give it another thought. bought the no5 ,it had the same problem but it was sporterised and had a beautiful stock on it so i got the new bolt head for it from gun parts. they had a hard time finding more at the time and said that those bolt heads were getting very scarce . said i could get all the 0, and 1 bolt heads i wanted . i do appreciate all of the help folks . maybe i can get that rifle shooting again. i still have alot to learn about firearms in general. i could fill a book with s*** i don' t know . once again thanks for all the help . you folks are great.

March 05, 2002, 11:50	#4
fubar Registered FALaholic #: 1994 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Crestwood, Ky. Posts: 371	These guys have a lot of Enfield parts and the different sized bolt heads for the No. 4 Springfield Sporters Inc. 2257 Springfield Rd. Penn Run, PA 15765 Phone (724)-254-2626 Fax (724)-254-9173 __________________ I don't have a license to kill, but I do have a learner's permit.

March 07, 2002, 07:24	#6
fubar Registered FALaholic #: 1994 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Crestwood, Ky. Posts: 371	Actually, Enfields have a "trench" (oversize) chamber to allow the rifle to work in poor field conditions and will headspace on the loose side even when new. They're also designed to handle ruptured cartridges well too. Ever wonder what the little hole on the left side of the Knox form is for? A Gas port to allow gas escape in the event of a ruptured cartridge. The rifles handle it SO well there have been people who have shot an entire magazine and not known they were getting ruptured cases until they picked up their brass later. I'm not advocating that you keep shooting the hell out of it, just saying that (a little, not alot) long headspace Enfield isn't as big a deal as it would be with other guns. If you're getting gas coming from around the breech it's WAY long though! [ March 07, 2002: Message edited by: Fubar ] __________________ I don't have a license to kill, but I do have a learner's permit.

March 07, 2002, 16:07	#7
EMDII Evil Moderator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 6 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 13,971	Try Brian at BDL Ltd. he has a HUGE building full of Enfields and parts, and is also an importer. __________________ "The Spartans do not enquire how many enemy there are. The SPartans merely enquire WHERE they are." E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II 1*

March 10, 2002, 11:24	#9
nicshorse Registered FALaholic #: 5623 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: omaha Posts: 104	dean p, i don't fire it any more . i didi't notice the problem until i started reloading. used to just leave the brass laying after i fired it . since it was my first rifle i thought every thing was normal,(even the hot gas part) until i started picking up the brass then i asked a gunsmith if the state of the brass was normal . of course he said no . he told me to get a different bolt head . put the gun in the closet and didn't give it another thought. bought the no5 ,it had the same problem but it was sporterised and had a beautiful stock on it so i got the new bolt head for it from gun parts. they had a hard time finding more at the time and said that those bolt heads were getting very scarce . said i could get all the 0, and 1 bolt heads i wanted . i do appreciate all of the help folks . maybe i can get that rifle shooting again. i still have alot to learn about firearms in general. i could fill a book with s*** i don' t know . once again thanks for all the help . you folks are great. __________________ every tool is a weapon , if you hold it right.

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March 03, 2002, 17:24	#1
nicshorse Registered FALaholic #: 5623 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: omaha Posts: 104	enfield collectors any of you enfield collectors know where i can get a #3 bolt head for a no4 mk1*. i like this rifle but it has a problem with case head separation. it may not be a collectors dream but it is the first rifle i ever bought and i am quite attached to it . any help would be greatly appriciated. __________________ every tool is a weapon , if you hold it right.

March 03, 2002, 18:26	#2
nicshorse Registered FALaholic #: 5623 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: omaha Posts: 104	currently have a #1 bolt head . it is seperating the case head and blowing hot gas from the breach end. have a no5 that had the same problem and a #3 bolt head fixed the problem.it doesn't do it all the time . it mostly does it with new remington or winchester ammo . when i reload i only do it for the no5and not for this paticular rifle . this one only gets brand new stuff . then i throw away the brass as it has a ring around the head area or is blown out completely . [ March 03, 2002: Message edited by: nicshorse ] __________________ every tool is a weapon , if you hold it right.

March 07, 2002, 02:11	#5
Dean P banned FALaholic #: 494 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 7,101	Don't fire that old enfield rifle untill you do head space it. Man you are living on barrowed time.

March 07, 2002, 19:44	#8
Dean P banned FALaholic #: 494 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 7,101	I think your wife need's to increase your insurance.