Duracoated Coach Gun

Kyle88 · June 02, 2012, 15:16

Refinished my rossi coach gun. It was a rusted sad pile at one time.. Needed new sears and triggers. I could have blued it, but I was curious what a duracoated coach gun would look like.. IMO, it is pretty nice. What do you guys think? I didn't mess with the stock.. That will be a project for a rainy day.

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Timber Wolf · June 02, 2012, 15:39

Looks good. I think you should have left the blue painter's tape on it though, I was grooving on the way it accented the old smoke pole!

Seriously, I missed one of these last week on the local trader board and would have liked to have had it. I have an old Stevens SXS somebody cut down and it is just neat. I want more short doubles!

Illurian00 · June 02, 2012, 15:53

Good idea....!

Kyle88 · June 02, 2012, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Timber Wolf

Looks good. I think you should have left the blue painter's tape on it though, I was grooving on the way it accented the old smoke pole!

Seriously, I missed one of these last week on the local trader board and would have liked to have had it. I have an old Stevens SXS somebody cut down and it is just neat. I want more short doubles!

I thought about leaving it.. the color contrast was nice :P

I love these dumb things.. so simple, so much fun.. Ive got 6 of these buggers that are parts guns in good enough condition to warrant a rebuild and refinish. Just need to get a hold of parts!

shlomo · June 02, 2012, 18:06

I was prepared to be scandalized, but I have to admit that looks pretty damned good.

Well done, lad.

Kyle88 · June 02, 2012, 18:32

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Originally Posted by shlomo

I was prepared to be scandalized, but I have to admit that looks pretty damned good.

Well done, lad.

Thank you, glad you werent shocked!

I can certainly see why people would maybe think of this as gun-blasphemy... how often have you seen a coach gun finished in anything besides bluing...

**Texgunner** · June 02, 2012, 22:55

I'd say it looks damned good! That's a cool piece of hardware.

TideWater 41009 · June 03, 2012, 17:09

In my opinion, the gun should have been blued. Paint just does not look right on a "traditional" type of gun.

I would also go with an oil finish for the stock, but at this point it would not matter. How about cammo?

Kyle88 · June 03, 2012, 17:21

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Originally Posted by TideWater 41009

In my opinion, the gun should have been blued. Paint just does not look right on a "traditional" type of gun.

I would also go with an oil finish for the stock, but at this point it would not matter. How about cammo?

You know, I restored this shotgun this way because bluing would have looked like hell with the few deep pitted areas. now it is sealed and has a very durable finish. to each their own though. no need to be insulting with the camo remark.

TideWater 41009 · June 03, 2012, 18:07

I apologize if I sounded insulting; I did not mean it that way.

fnogger · June 03, 2012, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Kyle88

Thank you, glad you werent shocked!

I can certainly see why people would maybe think of this as gun-blasphemy... how often have you seen a coach gun finished in anything besides bluing...

I've seen a few in hard shiny chrome....

I think yours looks much better.

I'd be tempted into looking into the places that do hydrographic dipping and get a faux case-color job on the receiver over the duracoat, with fine walnut w/ lots of burl for the wood ... Or some how do a pattern in gold, so it looks like gold inlayed engraving. Make it look like a $100k purdy... from 10 feet away

Kyle88 · June 05, 2012, 15:25

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Originally Posted by fnogger

I've seen a few in hard shiny chrome....

I think yours looks much better.

I'd be tempted into looking into the places that do hydrographic dipping and get a faux case-color job on the receiver over the duracoat, with fine walnut w/ lots of burl for the wood ... Or some how do a pattern in gold, so it looks like gold inlayed engraving. Make it look like a $100k purdy... from 10 feet away

lol That would be pretty wicked. Ive got a few more of these to do so I will probably give some other stuff a try.

Jailguard · June 05, 2012, 16:23

looks good as long as it is not pink

Kyle88 · June 05, 2012, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Jailguard

looks good as long as it is not pink

lol, pink and I have crossed paths before. Nothing of mine with ever willingly be pink. purple perhaps.. but never pink

**black sheep** · June 05, 2012, 18:06

I think that it looks great!!! Bluing is traditional simply because duracoat had not been invented yet!!

**SPEEDGUNNER** · June 05, 2012, 19:04

I like it.

DYNOMIKE · June 05, 2012, 20:35

I like it, Very nice job...

wonderdog451 · June 07, 2012, 10:38

that is a very fine example of how a firearm can be salvaged with a little time and effort. I have always wanted a shotgun like that and pictures such as yours inspire me to obtain one.

Kyle88 · June 08, 2012, 01:13

Surly · June 10, 2012, 10:54

Looks good...I might have to parkerize my old Boito that I made into a coach gun.

JeffJ · June 10, 2012, 13:35

One word of warning, I just read a thread where a guy took the duracoat off of his stainless 1911...it had surface rust...

Kyle88 · June 12, 2012, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Surly

Looks good...I might have to parkerize my old Boito that I made into a coach gun.

I think Parker would be pretty awesome! Im unfamiliar with Boito, however I do have a little single shot .410 that is a boito... Id be curious how that would look after being parkerized

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Originally Posted by JeffJ

One word of warning, I just read a thread where a guy took the duracoat off of his stainless 1911...it had surface rust...

This poor coach gun was surface rust from one end to the other.. I spent a lot of time buffing and scrubbing and sanding on it to get every bit of rust I could, off and gone. I hope I dont have any sort of problem like that, I feel like a prepped it pretty darn well. Time will tell though! My questions is... why would someone duracoat a stainless 1911!?

Timber Wolf · June 12, 2012, 13:03

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Originally Posted by Kyle88

My questions is... why would someone duracoat a stainless 1911!?

To make it black. I had a friend do some kind of 'coat' to his stainless Ruger Old Army because he did not like it all shiney.

Kyle88 · June 12, 2012, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Timber Wolf

To make it black. I had a friend do some kind of 'coat' to his stainless Ruger Old Army because he did not like it all shiney.

IMO.. covering up stainless steel is a sin.

**308bolt** · June 12, 2012, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Kyle88

Refinished my rossi coach gun. It was a rusted sad pile at one time.. Needed new sears and triggers. I could have blued it, but I was curious what a duracoated coach gun would look like.. IMO, it is pretty nice. What do you guys think? I didn't mess with the stock.. That will be a project for a rainy day.

What am I missing here?
Why is your stock masked? Isn't duracoat baked on? Wouldn't the heat damage your stock?

BTW: The gun looks great!

Kyle88 · June 12, 2012, 19:11

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Originally Posted by 308bolt

What am I missing here?
Why is your stock masked? Isn't duracoat baked on? Wouldn't the heat damage your stock?

BTW: The gun looks great!

Thanks Sir!

I masked it off So I could duracoat it fully assembled. The side plates are fit extremely tight so I didn't want to risk fitting issues but spraying parts individually. Plus, knowing me, I would stab the nice new finish with the flathead driver while I was reassembling it...It would make me physically sick if I did that.

Duracoat does not need to be baked on. It has a hardener that takes about 3 weeks to fully cure. Slow, but very easy to do and no need to stink of the house!

JeffJ · June 12, 2012, 20:07

[QUOTE=
My questions is... why would someone duracoat a stainless 1911!?[/QUOTE]

He just did the rounded/satin finish areas..yeah looked dopey to me but i was watching it because he was fitting a new beaver tail grip safety...

**308bolt** · June 12, 2012, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Kyle88

Duracoat does not need to be baked on. It has a hardener that takes about 3 weeks to fully cure. Slow, but very easy to do and no need to stink of the house!

Didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
I use molycoat and I built a quartz tube infrared oven to cure stuff in.
Takes an hour.

shlomo · June 12, 2012, 20:38

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Originally Posted by JeffJ

...i was watching it because he was fitting a new beaver tail grip safety...

Once bit, twice shy...

JeffJ · June 12, 2012, 20:48

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Originally Posted by shlomo

Once bit, twice shy...

Yes sir!! I need to borrow your 250 guide tool...unless you want to use your wiz bang mill on it first to speed up the process.

shlomo · June 12, 2012, 21:04

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Originally Posted by JeffJ

Yes sir!! I need to borrow your 250 guide tool...unless you want to use your wiz bang mill on it first to speed up the process.

There ain't that much to take off. A little filing is good for the soul.

Kyle88 · June 13, 2012, 13:13

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Originally Posted by 308bolt

Didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
I use molycoat and I built a quartz tube infrared oven to cure stuff in.
Takes an hour.

Do you have a pic and some specs on your oven? Ive been wanting to do something like that.

Good luck with molycoat I take it?

**308bolt** · June 13, 2012, 16:46

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Originally Posted by Kyle88

Do you have a pic and some specs on your oven? Ive been wanting to do something like that.

Good luck with molycoat I take it?

Ummmmm, lets just say that what I built is not from off the shelf parts.

I used a horizontal file cabinet which I stood on end for the housing, two fixtures and 24 inch quartz tubes salvaged from a surplus hospital incubator and a 1/4 DIN Watlow digital PID controller and thermocouple that came out of a thermoformer to control it.
The likelihood of you recreating this unit is slim.

As for the molycoat, yes, I've had good luck with it.
Like most finishes the better the prep the better the final product.
One of the thinks I like about it is you can coat the firearm before you assemble it and as long as you don't get oil or grease on it you can re-coat it
and bake it again to get rid of scratches or nicks caused by assembly.
The fact that molybdenum is a dry lube is a plus too.

June 02, 2012, 15:16	#1
Kyle88 Registered FALaholic #: 64829 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 76	Duracoated Coach Gun Refinished my rossi coach gun. It was a rusted sad pile at one time.. Needed new sears and triggers. I could have blued it, but I was curious what a duracoated coach gun would look like.. IMO, it is pretty nice. What do you guys think? I didn't mess with the stock.. That will be a project for a rainy day. BEFORE: AFTER:

June 02, 2012, 15:39	#2
Timber Wolf Registered FALaholic #: 805 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Southern U.S. Posts: 2,810	Looks good. I think you should have left the blue painter's tape on it though, I was grooving on the way it accented the old smoke pole! Seriously, I missed one of these last week on the local trader board and would have liked to have had it. I have an old Stevens SXS somebody cut down and it is just neat. I want more short doubles! __________________ First rule of gun fighting: "have a gun!" "Guns don't kill people. Daddys with good looking daughters do!"

June 02, 2012, 22:55	#7
Texgunner long-time Texas taxpayer Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 4653 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: central Texas-Milam county Posts: 2,509	I'd say it looks damned good! That's a cool piece of hardware. __________________ "I'm Snake River Rufus Crile, a long way from home. I'm blood kin to a Gila monster, can drink my weight in wolf poison. Massacre, bloodshed, famine and drought all put meat on my bones. Hardship and slaughter, my daily bread. I can whip a full grown longhorn cow with my hands tied, make violent love to mountain lions. My trigger fingers are itchy; I'm set to go, red hot" from "The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean"

June 05, 2012, 16:23	#13
Jailguard Registered FALaholic #: 10331 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: west central Florida Posts: 2,245	looks good as long as it is not pink __________________ "Our conduct defines us." What every officer should live by. It's the tool behind the tool that makes the difference. ~ Chet

June 05, 2012, 18:06	#15
black sheep Member Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 6667 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: MIDWEST Posts: 246	I think that it looks great!!! Bluing is traditional simply because duracoat had not been invented yet!! __________________ live free or die trying!!!!!!!!!! ISLAM: The NEW NAZI

June 02, 2012, 15:53	#3
Illurian00 Registered FALaholic #: 28599 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,413	Good idea....!

June 02, 2012, 18:06	#5
shlomo Registered FALaholic #: 12779 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: elsewhere Posts: 12,010	I was prepared to be scandalized, but I have to admit that looks pretty damned good. Well done, lad.

June 03, 2012, 17:09	#8
TideWater 41009 Registered FALaholic #: 1789 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 1,364	In my opinion, the gun should have been blued. Paint just does not look right on a "traditional" type of gun. I would also go with an oil finish for the stock, but at this point it would not matter. How about cammo?

June 03, 2012, 18:07	#10
TideWater 41009 Registered FALaholic #: 1789 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 1,364	I apologize if I sounded insulting; I did not mean it that way.

June 05, 2012, 19:04	#16
SPEEDGUNNER Firearms Connoisseur Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 43933 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Scenic Chester County PA Posts: 1,349	I like it. __________________ "There's a race of men that don't fit in, A race that can't stay still; So they break the hearts of kith and kin, And they roam the world at will." - Robert Service

June 05, 2012, 20:35	#17
DYNOMIKE Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 11982 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 13,978	I like it, Very nice job... __________________ "If your Gonna DIE, DIE Standing UP"!! The WOLVERINES.......

June 07, 2012, 10:38	#18
wonderdog451 Registered FALaholic #: 20069 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Warren,michigan Posts: 1,661	that is a very fine example of how a firearm can be salvaged with a little time and effort. I have always wanted a shotgun like that and pictures such as yours inspire me to obtain one.

June 08, 2012, 01:13	#19
Kyle88 Registered FALaholic #: 64829 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 76	NEXT

June 10, 2012, 10:54	#20
Surly Registered FALaholic #: 3610 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: "Daschle Free" South Dakota Posts: 217	Looks good...I might have to parkerize my old Boito that I made into a coach gun. __________________ Tax paying, law abiding, gun toting, life loving, GOD fearing RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST An armed civilian is a citizen. A disarmed civilian is a SUBJECT. MCLMM Former NRA Lifer

June 10, 2012, 13:35	#21
JeffJ Registered FALaholic #: 5212 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 1,976	One word of warning, I just read a thread where a guy took the duracoat off of his stainless 1911...it had surface rust...

June 12, 2012, 20:07	#27
JeffJ Registered FALaholic #: 5212 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 1,976	[QUOTE= My questions is... why would someone duracoat a stainless 1911!?[/QUOTE] He just did the rounded/satin finish areas..yeah looked dopey to me but i was watching it because he was fitting a new beaver tail grip safety...

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