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Old May 31, 2012, 15:24   #51
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The election will have consequences..

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Ten bucks says you wouldn't say that to my face old man. F*CK YOU and your pretend conservative ways you crippled old derelict. NOTHING WILL BE FIXED BY ROMNEY EITHER, DIPSH!T. Let this motherF***er burn. I'm ready for anything. And just remember, if you don't like being called what you are then try changing for the better instead of living haunched over on your knees. You hunch back old men will reap what you sow. In twenty years the social programs you paid for and abhor so much will have the plugged pulled right as you start drawing benefits. Couldn't happen to a better bunch of do-nothing-asleep-at-the-wheel-wannabe-conservative-losers. Just keep throwing your sacrificial lamb candidates against Obama and just keep bitching when you get served your just desserts. Traitors.
Assowipo, is your new name. Your a real tough boy and NEVER pick a fight with an old man. BTWGOFUCKYOURSELFINAPLEASANTSORTOFWAY.

It's funny you blaming me for your problems when I paid your way, my $40,000
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I do but this visual aid doesn't. Figures a moron Romney supporter would have missed that one. They should be switched. But wait this is coming from the guy who said it was morons like me who got Clinton elected. So if I'm a 25 year old Paul supporter and I left the train station going east... Your math is as sound as your judgement. Poor. Too young to have voted for Clinton. As if old man Bush or BOB DOLE had a chance against him. More sacrificial lambs offered by tried and true Republi-cant's... And I'm the moron? Come on guy you've got to be kidding. Your last couple of remarks have to be some of the greatest composed sub 75 IQ statements ever to have been formulated since the filming of Forrest Gump.
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Not a threat. Just a bet. I'd buy that guy ten cases of beer if he could see the light.
I don't drink, makes my trigger finger twitch.
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THAT is exactly what the big picture is.
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I do but this visual aid doesn't. Figures a moron Romney supporter would have missed that one. They should be switched. But wait this is coming from the guy who said it was morons like me who got Clinton elected. So if I'm a 25 year old Paul supporter and I left the train station going east... Your math is as sound as your judgement. Poor. Too young to have voted for Clinton. As if old man Bush or BOB DOLE had a chance against him. More sacrificial lambs offered by tried and true Republi-cant's... And I'm the moron? Come on guy you've got to be kidding. Your last couple of remarks have to be some of the greatest composed sub 75 IQ statements ever to have been formulated since the filming of Forrest Gump.
You're have trouble with reading comprehension, I said it was the Morons LIKE
you, not YOU that voted for Ross Perot and gave the Libs the Election.
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Assowipo, is your new name. Your a real tough boy and NEVER pick a fight with an old man. BTWGOFUCKYOURSELFINAPLEASANTSORTOFWAY.

It's funny you blaming me for your problems when I paid your way, my $40,000
in taxes every year is what is keeping the place alive. When you start paying YOUR way I'll listen to what you have to say and I won't stoop to your level
and get in your face.
I'm not blaming you for anything. I don't have any problems. I'm sitting pretty. I am blaming you for not standing behind your so called convictions and voting for the least conservative conservative the Republi-can't party has ever sent to slaughter. I'm not picking a fight with you old man. I want you to knock the rust of your old ass gears and really think about what your doing. You will be voting for a right leaning DEMOCRAT. I still got that ten bucks though. I'd rather put it towards a bottle of bourbon. Also I would like to hear your take on my swing state take. Texas is always red. Your vote has already been counted. There are three states, maybe a fourth, that will be electing YOUR PRESIDENT. How does that make you feel? The only poles that matter are the ones from those states. Not looking good for Romney here or in the other states making your choice for you.
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I could actually vote Obama just to hear you howl.
And to prove how much it really doesn't matter. OBTW I live in a swing state. You should be trying to woo me to the side of your chosen cream puff, because unlike the rest of you "red state" douches my vote actually counts. You know I'm right about this too and it chews you up to think about... I can hear your grinding teeth through the keyboard. You guys should do a little research about free state movements and go "occupy" some of the swing states.. Oh wait your three weeks too late to become a resident where I live. Occupy! I just keep bringing the hits! You guys probably cut that word out of your dictionaries by now. If only you could think ahead? Or use your "enemies" concepts against them in a way that could actually effect change. Evolve monkeys. Oh man and the taboo hits just keep coming...:rofl :: rofl::ro fl::rofl :: rofl::ro fl:
I'm hearing something from the past. . .what could it be. . . . Oh yeah, I remember it now. "Rock and Roll will change the world" Same shit, just different dumb-asses.

It's dumb-asses like this that make me fully believe that only people that own real property should be able to cast a vote. I think the founders screwed up on that one.
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The ones that provably don't have a clue are those that continue to do the same as always.....And expect a different outcome. Like supporting somebody that is provably anti gun and anti freedom. Like McCain/Mittens, etc.... And think that they will change the status quo. Or is it that you are OK with pissing on our constitution? I find that quite crazy. If not downright retarded.

You guys piss on the constitution and tell us it's just raining.

If you swore and oath to the constitution. And support anybody that does not support and defend it.... then what does that make you?

As far as us Ronbots. We may lose a battle. But we will win the war. Or else everything we have come to know will be gone. And the ones to blame are you that continue to piss on our republic by supporting bastards like mittens.

Obama is bad enough.... Why support the same with a different letter in front of their name?

America will die from an infection of idiots...... Both R and D.

Funny how you want to think that Romney tied things up before the convention. You assholes want to continue to destroy this country in the name of your own comfort. You disgust me thoroughly. Just assholes that support another ban on our rifles..... By supporting Romney or anyone that does not support restoring our constitution.... Assholes. You'll get what you deserve...... So will all of us....
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I'm hearing something from the past. . .what could it be. . . . Oh yeah, I remember it now. "Rock and Roll will change the world" Same shit, just different dumb-asses.

It's dumb-asses like this that make me fully believe that only people that own real property should be able to cast a vote. I think the founders screwed up on that one.
Seeing as I own my truck out right and bought my house out right and without a bank your cure would not apply to my situation. Still wouldn't vote for Romney. But thanks for playing. How much do you still owe on your "owned" property? Or shall I say leased from the banksters property...
Sounds like Rock N Roll let you down L1A1...wait for it...Rocker? The hypocrisy of this site is becoming more and more astounding...
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The ones that provably don't have a clue are those that continue to do the same as always.....And expect a different outcome. Like supporting somebody that is provably anti gun and anti freedom. Like McCain/Mittens, etc.... And think that they will change the status quo. Or is it that you are OK with pissing on our constitution? I find that quite crazy. If not downright retarded.

You guys piss on the constitution and tell us it's just raining.

If you swore and oath to the constitution. And support anybody that does not support and defend it.... then what does that make you?

As far as us Ronbots. We may lose a battle. But we will win the war. Or else everything we have come to know will be gone. And the ones to blame are you that continue to piss on our republic by supporting bastards like mittens.

Obama is bad enough.... Why support the same with a different letter in front of their name?

America will die from an infection of idiots...... Both R and D.

Funny how you want to think that Romney tied things up before the convention. You assholes want to continue to destroy this country in the name of your own comfort. You disgust me thoroughly. Just assholes that support another ban on our rifles..... By supporting Romney or anyone that does not support restoring our constitution.... Assholes. You'll get what you deserve...... So will all of us....
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times no different, he isn't going to go along to get along, and Romney will,
it's as simple as that.

Like I said if you start the shooting war I right behind you.
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Seeing as I own my truck out right and bought my house out right and without a bank your cure would not apply to my situation. Still wouldn't vote for Romney. But thanks for playing. How much do you still owe on your "owned" property? Or shall I say leased from the banksters property...
Sounds like Rock N Roll let you down L1A1...wait for it...Rocker? The hypocrisy of this site is becoming more and more astounding...
So you don't pay property taxes on your property?
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Stop blaming us for what happens at the Bilderberg. You know damn good and well that Romney was Selected and NOT elected. The Rothschilds and uber rich
are picking the candidate not us. This notion that your vote in the primaries
matters is a joke. It's all been manipulated. Ron's never had a chance and this
times no different, he isn't going to go along to get along, and Romney will,
it's as simple as that.

Like I said if you start the shooting war I right behind you.
What are we arguing about again old man? But by all right age before beauty...
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So you don't pay property taxes on your property?
How is that even possible? I do not have an alloidal title. Mine are due at the end of next month. Just got the papers on Saturday. No time like a holiday weekend to get a bill from the government. Don't understand how you came to that conclusion from my statement.

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Stop blaming us for what happens at the Bilderberg. You know damn good and well that Romney was Selected and NOT elected. The Rothschilds and uber rich
are picking the candidate not us. This notion that your vote in the primaries
matters is a joke. It's all been manipulated. Ron's never had a chance and this
times no different, he isn't going to go along to get along, and Romney will,
it's as simple as that.

Like I said if you start the shooting war I right behind you.
And you are supporting who? Romney. Right?


It's about the delegates. That is what I have consistently stated. I NEVER said my vote matters in the primary. Find it. Quote it.

Ron DOES have a chance....A good one. If enough people call the GOP on their dishonesty. But they don't. They are too busy digesting the sweet bricks of lies they are fed and way too scared of the bitter grains of truth. Just look around you.... It is obvious.

But we MUST try. We must not give up. It's about growth of this movement. Not just about RP being elected. If you were on board you'd know that.
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How is that even possible? I do not have an alloidal title. Mine are due at the end of next month. Just got the papers on Saturday. No time like a holiday weekend to get a bill from the government. Don't understand how you came to that conclusion from my statement.

If you pay Property Taxes you don't own it, the State Does. Don't pay the
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And you are supporting who? Romney. Right?


It's about the delegates. That is what I have consistently stated. I NEVER said my vote matters in the primary. Find it. Quote it.

Ron DOES have a chance....A good one. If enough people call the GOP on their dishonesty. But they don't. They are too busy digesting the sweet bricks of lies they are fed and way too scared of the bitter grains of truth. Just look around you.... It is obvious.

But we MUST try. We must not give up. It's about growth of this movement. Not just about RP being elected. If you were on board you'd know that.
You are correct on a least one point, I don't have time during the day to run
an insurgency and I never said I was a Romney supporter, quite the contrary.
I said the same thing last go round when our choices here were limited to
voting for McCain, Romney sucks. I can't support a third party period, we would end up worse than Europe. Anyone that has asperations of changing the system
will need to have the backing of someone with extraordinary wealth, otherwise
you end up like Ralph Nader or Linden LaRoushe. It's always possible that some
catastrophe may befall us and out of that chaos would come a new leader with
our ideals and principles, maybe not, but in the mean time don't support the
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Ron Paul once introduced a bill that would make it mandatory to verify the Constitutionality of any new law. I think he had one co-sponsor. What does that tell us? Do politicians not understand what the Constitution says, do they not care or do they want to be able to reinterpret said document for their convenience or connivance? I suspect all of the above.
Who was going to do this verification? Hopefully not a pediatrician. Would they run every bill by the supreme court before it goes to committee, again afterward, again after any amendments from the floor, again 3 times in the Senate and again after the conference committee?

Law that had been found constitutional for 100 years were thrown out by the current Supreme Court in Citizens United.

This shows RP doesn't understand the Constitution or how Congress works.
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Again, you're making my point, the control is top down. I was an alt/delegate
last time and there is generally a small contingent of yellers but generally they
get voted down. The Convention is a huge rah rah stage production with a lot
of back slapping and pissing contests held in small private suites. Ron won't
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Who was going to do this verification? Hopefully not a pediatrician. Would they run every bill by the supreme court before it goes to committee, again afterward, again after any amendments from the floor, again 3 times in the Senate and again after the conference committee?

Law that had been found constitutional for 100 years were thrown out by the current Supreme Court in Citizens United.

This shows RP doesn't understand the Constitution or how Congress works.
So your (the liberal) solution is to do nothing and leave both Rs and Ds unchecked in their crusade for big gov. power.
I think it's you that doesn't understand the Constitution.
The Constitution is the the outline of both the rights of the citizens and the limits of government.
Maybe we need a Constitution Czar or two.
Kucinich maybe.

But still, you've really got to wonder why our "representative" don't believe they should be limited by mere Constitutional law.
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It's moron's like you and your Reform Party numb nuts friends that put
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Hard core republicans voted for Perot since he was wealthier, more anti-gun, and more anti-Constitution in general than even 1989 semi auto ban Bush you seem to be indicating support for.
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If you pay Property Taxes you don't own it, the State Does. Don't pay the
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I'll give the little fellers their peanuts. I look at it as charity. Helping the less fortunate get by. You know the teachers unions, road workers, and librarians. It's still cheaper than the alternative. And I am a frugal man. So you don't pay property taxes. :golf clap: I guess your form of civil disobedience and mine are different. To each their own. Rage against the machine but don't embrace the newest shiniest mouth piece just because he's not Obama.
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The election will have consequences..

There is absolutely nothing in his record to indicate that he would nominate conservatives for the Supreme Court.
One of my favorite Romney bullshit items is his saying that he got together with both pro and anti gunners and they all agreed on the Massachusetts assault rifle ban. If he were actually a pro-2a conservative he simply would have vetoed it.
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Again, you're making my point, the control is top down. I was an alt/delegate
last time and there is generally a small contingent of yellers but generally they
get voted down. The Convention is a huge rah rah stage production with a lot
of back slapping and pissing contests held in small private suites. Ron won't
win the Convention vote.

This isn't 2008. We are a LOT bigger this time. You give up too easy. Something worth fighting for is worth sticking to.

The convention is binding. It always has been unless the PTB's say it isn't. You listen to the PTB's too much. They lie. We haven't lied.

Since when do we listen to and follow the enemies of the constitution? Aren't we suppose to protect and defend and support the constitution from ALL enemies both foreign and domestic? Or do we just give up like big fat pussies and say it's too hard to do? Since when do we follow the propaganda of those that wish to kill this republic? When it gets too hard?

Like I said...you give up too easy. Some things are worth dying for. Most things aren't worth it. This republic and constitution were worth flying into danger for when I enlisted...twice. Still is. Why is it now with you? Why not fight now to keep us from having to put our asses in the line line of fire? Rather than give up now and make it an absolute that our lives will be at stake?
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So your (the liberal) solution is to do nothing and leave both Rs and Ds unchecked in their crusade for big gov. power.
I think it's you that doesn't understand the Constitution.
The Constitution is the the outline of both the rights of the citizens and the limits of government.
Maybe we need a Constitution Czar or two.
Kucinich maybe.

But still, you've really got to wonder why our "representative" don't believe they should be limited by mere Constitutional law.
We have 9 Constitutional Czars, they sit on the Supreme Court, but seldom do all 9 agree. We have a system of checking the laws, an imperfect system, but it's been our way of doing things for a long time.

Why don't you suggest how the RP plan would work in a realistic/practical way?

Who would pick these people that deem every law constitutional? Apparently not our elected (big government R & D) politicians. People keep electing these big government R & D politicians, and that is obviously a problem for you. Perhaps we need a committee to check and pre-approve who can run for office - like they do in Iran - so that only candidates that see the constitution as you do can stand for office.

What happens when (not if) SCOTUS rules one of these "pre-approved" laws unconstitutional?
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...And you supported Obama in 2008?
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Wouldn't that make you happy? If a new member read everything you've ever posted regarding politics, they would assume you voted for him in 2008, also. In fact, based on all your political viewpoints here, if that new member took out everything that indicated you might vote for Romney, they would be surprised that you weren't hoping Hillary is running. Based on your viewpoints, you're a Hillary fan, not a Romney fan (though there's not too much difference between the two).
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I've seen no vets pissing on the constitution, just some rightwing radical ravings from you. Ron Paul is a vet is he pissing on the constitution?

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You piss on it whenever you support anybody that will not support and defend the constitution...like mittens.

I'm neither right nor left. Neither predator or prey. I do not want false wars without a declaration of war per the constitution.

You exaggerate like a tepid woman on a bad period. I NEVER stated all veterans and you know damn well I didn't. You have to lie to get some traction now Thorack?

If you consider me right wing. Then YOU must be from the left.
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There is absolutely nothing in his record to indicate that he would nominate conservatives for the Supreme Court...
But it is a stone cold guarantee who Obama will put there. As those are the nominees I'm committed to working against Obama as best I can.

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I know it doesn't mean much to you, but.....

He didn't pile on the spending and debt year after year.
He didn't vote to increase the police state.
He didn't support any gun control.
He didn't vote for banker welfare.
He didn't keep raising the joke of a debt ceiling.
He didn't vote to increase taxes.
He didn't vote for any laws that reduced our liberty.
He didn't vote for anything unconstitutional.


The real question is why do you have a lifetime of voting for politicians that do all/most of the above and then call that an accomplishment?

Well besides the obvious that you like big govt, big spending, big welfare, the police state and hate freedom.





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That's not really accomplishing anything except voting no or not supporting. How about some real accomplishments.
So Ron Paul is like Obama who voted present and really didn't accomplish much?
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That's not really accomplishing anything except voting no or not supporting. How about some real accomplishments.
So Ron Paul is like Obama who voted present and really didn't accomplish much?
Well Munster when you are part of a group of which 99% are serial sodomites who drop their pants and molest, bugger and violate the Constitution and the taxpayers at every opportunity, NOT going along with it is an accomplishment.

If he joined in and wiped his d*ck afterward with the american flag hanging in the House floor would that make you happy?
And him electable?




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Dak Tooy, you are nutz.

Paul in 08 AND when he ran as a libertarian.

Basically I always vote 3rd party with very few exceptions.




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Seeing as I own my truck out right and bought my house out right and without a bank your cure would not apply to my situation. Still wouldn't vote for Romney. But thanks for playing. How much do you still owe on your "owned" property? Or shall I say leased from the banksters property...
Sounds like Rock N Roll let you down L1A1...wait for it...Rocker? The hypocrisy of this site is becoming more and more astounding...
Squatting does not mean own. And there is that wonderful term "banksters". Why is it that the spell check doesn't like it? Perhaps it is because it's a fabricated word (dare I say a pejorative of hate?) made up by people with a lack of education and no command of the English language? Based on your lack of punctuation, and inability to properly structure a sentence, I suspect either are applicable in your case.

On one final note, I suspect you do not know what the original rock and roll is all about.
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Dak Tooy, you are nutz.

Paul in 08 AND when he ran as a libertarian.

Basically I always vote 3rd party with very few exceptions.




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What specifically has Ron Paul gotten accomplished in his 25 years in politics?
Nothing...
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Well Munster when you are part of a group of which 99% are serial sodomites who drop their pants and molest, bugger and violate the Constitution and the taxpayers at every opportunity, NOT going along with it is an accomplishment.

If he joined in and wiped his d*ck afterward with the american flag hanging in the House floor would that make you happy?
And him electable?




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That's quite disgusting, Juanni... Are you from San Francisco?
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Man that was almost work, it's really tough being a mean old
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Well Munster when you are part of a group of which 99% are serial sodomites who drop their pants and molest, bugger and violate the Constitution and the taxpayers at every opportunity, NOT going along with it is an accomplishment.

If he joined in and wiped his d*ck afterward with the american flag hanging in the House floor would that make you happy?
And him electable?




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So then besides voting no, which anybody can do, he's not accomplished anything else? Well, he did get his Son elected, or at least some of the Ronulans gave him credit for that one.
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So, you're an Anarchist.



Right anyone who votes demo is a commie and anyone who votes 3rd party is an anarchist.

You got the Kool Aid seeping out of your pores.



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That's quite disgusting,
Good! You should be disgusted at what BOTH parties have "accomplished".






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So then besides voting no, which anybody can do,
Really?
It is easy to vote against more insane spending and big govt?

Then why don't your beloved fiscally conservative Republicans that claim to support small govt do so?

Being so easy and all.




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As did anyone who voted for McCain.
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Perhaps we need a committee to check and pre-approve who can run for office - like they do in Iran - so that only candidates that see the constitution as you do can stand for office.
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What happens when (not if) SCOTUS rules one of these "pre-approved" laws unconstitutional?
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Squatting does not mean own. And there is that wonderful term "banksters". Why is it that the spell check doesn't like it? Perhaps it is because it's a fabricated word (dare I say a pejorative of hate?) made up by people with a lack of education and no command of the English language? Based on your lack of punctuation, and inability to properly structure a sentence, I suspect either are applicable in your case.

On one final note, I suspect you do not know what the original rock and roll is all about.
Type on a touch screen. Sorry my punctuation isn't up to snuff. It is highly suspect that you would judge my situation based on my use of a word. It sounds like you might have gotten a little bit of that taxpayer pay-off. No wonder you don't see the need for the system to change. Skimming that fat. So if I own multiple properties do I get multiple votes? I'm down. Sounds like I may have struck a nerve with the swing States choose your president statement. Sorry your buddy Romney doesn't speak to me the way he does to you. Rock in roll is what you make it. Sounds like you also carry quite a hefty mortgage on your squatted "property". Why else would bring up that word? See where assumptions can lead?

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That's not really accomplishing anything except voting no or not supporting. How about some real accomplishments.
Yeah, we need more "good" laws like the patriot act and obamacare!


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So Ron Paul is like Obama who voted present and really didn't accomplish much?
Ron Paul voted against any law that infringed on our liberties.


I hope you have fun voting for Romney the one R candidate that you said you would never vote for.
Or are you just going to stay home?
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Wouldn't that make you happy? If a new member read everything you've ever posted regarding politics, they would assume you voted for him in 2008, also. In fact, based on all your political viewpoints here, if that new member took out everything that indicated you might vote for Romney, they would be surprised that you weren't hoping Hillary is running. Based on your viewpoints, you're a Hillary fan, not a Romney fan (though there's not too much difference between the two).
Anything a new member would take away from my post is there is at least one rational member here who believes the world does not rotate on firearm laws either way, constitutional zealots and the denouncing John McCain who is a national hero and a few pundits here couldn't rate as a pimple on his ass.

Ron Paul was an also ran in any national election, never a factor in setting any disernable amount of national constituency or policy and will not likely to be ever perceived as a national hero.

The difference between Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney is in gender and political parties and please feel free to demonstrate a connection between Hillary and myself. Unlike Hillary, I have dodged VC sniper fire a few times.

Anytime the fringe morons here feel it is their duty to take aim at any national military hero or against the party who their campaign champion also belongs are subject to scrutiny & exposure.
I am not fan of Smedley Butler's politics, but I do recognize this exceptional military service and two MOHs.
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