C&R FFL in Mass.

Fal-Mass. · February 02, 2002, 18:09

Does anyone know if there are any extra limitations for a Mass. C&R FFL holder that don't apply to the rest of the free world? (California not included of course).

Fal-Mass. · February 02, 2002, 19:19

Thanks for the info.I belong to the NRA but not GOAL yet(please don't hate me).

Monster · February 05, 2002, 07:57

Since you do not have an state dealers license, the state considers you a private buyer. Log the C&R into your bound book, then file an FA10 with the state as a registration, not a transfer. Also, don't forget that the PRofMA won't let you sell more than 4 firearms in a year without going through an 01 FFL. That's for in state sales where an FA10 is used, of course.
You can get more information on the MA firearms list http://www.goal.org/maf.html

There are several MA C&R holders that are regular posters there. I'm not sure yet how the AG's "Consumer Protection" regs will affect C&R pistol purchases. You will also find that some C&R dealers just will not send handguns to MA, even if it is legal, rather than deal with the mess we have. I don't like it, but I can't really blame them.

groundnull · February 06, 2002, 09:13

I'm a MA 03. You have to register each gun via a F10 form.

There's a specific clause in the MA gun laws that exempts curio and relics from things like the Attorney General's consumer protection crap that keeps many 01 pistols out of the state.

Get an 03 and have fun!!

XeroSygnal · February 06, 2002, 11:15

Groundnull,

Do you happen to know whether or not C&R handguns will be exempt from "The List" when that gets released?

Fal-Mass. · February 06, 2002, 19:19

I appreciate the help guys, sent out my application today.

Fal-Mass.

groundnull · February 07, 2002, 10:22

Xero,

The attorney general's regulations and "The List" only apply to "Handgun Purveyors" in the state of MA, i.e. gun dealers.

Under the attorney general's definition of handgun purveyors is a list of those exempted. While it doesn't call out C&R holders directly, it refers to the US law governing and defining C&R dealers.

In other words, since C&R holders aren't handgun purveyors, the regulations and list don't apply. However, the federal laws do and the MA laws governing storage, registering, etc apply.

Here's a link - http://www.ago.state.ma.us/cmr2.pdf

XeroSygnal · February 07, 2002, 10:31

Groundnull

Thanks for the clarification. And to think, I was about to pay a lot of extra money to try to get one of those Colt Sistemas into the state before "The List" came out. lol... I'll just put in for my C&R and wait it out then. Thanks again!

February 02, 2002, 18:09	#1
Fal-Mass. Registered FALaholic #: 4917 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ma. Posts: 22	C&R FFL in Mass. Does anyone know if there are any extra limitations for a Mass. C&R FFL holder that don't apply to the rest of the free world? (California not included of course).

February 05, 2002, 07:57	#3
Monster Registered FALaholic #: 3140 Join Date: May 2001 Location: PRofMA Posts: 25	Since you do not have an state dealers license, the state considers you a private buyer. Log the C&R into your bound book, then file an FA10 with the state as a registration, not a transfer. Also, don't forget that the PRofMA won't let you sell more than 4 firearms in a year without going through an 01 FFL. That's for in state sales where an FA10 is used, of course. You can get more information on the MA firearms list http://www.goal.org/maf.html There are several MA C&R holders that are regular posters there. I'm not sure yet how the AG's "Consumer Protection" regs will affect C&R pistol purchases. You will also find that some C&R dealers just will not send handguns to MA, even if it is legal, rather than deal with the mess we have. I don't like it, but I can't really blame them. __________________ Kevin "We do less before 9:00AM than most people don't do all day."

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February 02, 2002, 19:19	#2
Fal-Mass. Registered FALaholic #: 4917 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ma. Posts: 22	Thanks for the info.I belong to the NRA but not GOAL yet(please don't hate me).

February 06, 2002, 09:13	#4
groundnull Registered FALaholic #: 2947 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 96	I'm a MA 03. You have to register each gun via a F10 form. There's a specific clause in the MA gun laws that exempts curio and relics from things like the Attorney General's consumer protection crap that keeps many 01 pistols out of the state. Get an 03 and have fun!!

February 06, 2002, 11:15	#5
XeroSygnal Registered FALaholic #: 2030 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 238	Groundnull, Do you happen to know whether or not C&R handguns will be exempt from "The List" when that gets released?

February 06, 2002, 19:19	#6
Fal-Mass. Registered FALaholic #: 4917 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ma. Posts: 22	I appreciate the help guys, sent out my application today. Fal-Mass.

February 07, 2002, 10:22	#7
groundnull Registered FALaholic #: 2947 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 96	Xero, The attorney general's regulations and "The List" only apply to "Handgun Purveyors" in the state of MA, i.e. gun dealers. Under the attorney general's definition of handgun purveyors is a list of those exempted. While it doesn't call out C&R holders directly, it refers to the US law governing and defining C&R dealers. In other words, since C&R holders aren't handgun purveyors, the regulations and list don't apply. However, the federal laws do and the MA laws governing storage, registering, etc apply. Here's a link - http://www.ago.state.ma.us/cmr2.pdf

February 07, 2002, 10:31	#8
XeroSygnal Registered FALaholic #: 2030 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 238	Groundnull Thanks for the clarification. And to think, I was about to pay a lot of extra money to try to get one of those Colt Sistemas into the state before "The List" came out. lol... I'll just put in for my C&R and wait it out then. Thanks again!