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Old April 21, 2012, 19:25   #1
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ID this FN Fal

This Fal is dated 1959 with Fn markings. It has no military type marking.























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Old April 21, 2012, 19:44   #2
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Old April 21, 2012, 20:05   #3
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Uhhh - wow

It is odd that you don't know what that is...
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Old April 21, 2012, 20:09   #4
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Pretty f'ing BADASS, that's what it is.
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Old April 21, 2012, 20:18   #5
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It looks like the export version of the Belgian M2. They sold those to Kuwait, Peru, Indonesia, Portugal, and other countries in the late 50s. The experts will chime in soon. This looks like the real deal. Is the weapon in the US?
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I think I need to change my underware...........
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Old April 21, 2012, 20:59   #7
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This belonged to a gun collector who pasted away with no one to leave it to. He had over a thousand gun. Most where full auto From WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. ATF destroyed all his weapons. I work as Computer Tech and go to gov agents to repair systems. I saw this Fal and was allowed to inspect it and take pictures. By the way the Fal was registered by ATF in 1968.
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Old April 21, 2012, 21:25   #9
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Why I asked for and ID because it was not like an M1 it had full cover not the short cover with stripper clip. M2 had plastic non bi pod hand guards. It also had a crown on the receiver.
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This belonged to a gun collector who pasted away with no one to leave it to. He had over a thousand gun. Most where full auto From WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. ATF destroyed all his weapons. I work as Computer Tech and go to gov agents to repair systems. I saw this Fal and was allowed to inspect it and take pictures. By the way the Fal was registered by ATF in 1968.

That statement made my heart stop for a second, at least 3-4 beats. You probably just took 20 minutes or so off my life. I guess this is one of those times when its OK for a grown man to cry, I mean get something in his eye.
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Old April 21, 2012, 22:21   #12
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I been told this a 50.00 FAL from FN because it was made in 1959. To bad I'll never see this one again. While I was at this location for an hour and a half they cut up 400 hundred guns. This guys C&R collections was amazing. To bad some Military museum could use these.
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Old April 21, 2012, 22:23   #13
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It looks a lot like an EX 1 CDN from our rifle trials prior to the adoption of the C1. However 1959 is a couple years too late for that.

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Old April 21, 2012, 23:30   #14
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This belonged to a gun collector who pasted away with no one to leave it to. He had over a thousand gun. Most where full auto From WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. ATF destroyed all his weapons. I work as Computer Tech and go to gov agents to repair systems. I saw this Fal and was allowed to inspect it and take pictures. By the way the Fal was registered by ATF in 1968.
Are you saying you took these photo's recently?

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Please answer the question here in this thread, brief is ok. Did you take these photo's recently? Do not PM me again.
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This belonged to a gun collector who pasted away with no one to leave it to. He had over a thousand gun. Most where full auto From WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. ATF destroyed all his weapons. I work as Computer Tech and go to gov agents to repair systems. I saw this Fal and was allowed to inspect it and take pictures. By the way the Fal was registered by ATF in 1968.
Sad.. I'm sure that rifle contributed to countless crimes against humanity.. As far as what it is, it was the standard version of the FAL that was available at the time. I might have vomited in my mouth thinking about it.
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Old April 22, 2012, 00:24   #16
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Yes in the past 6 months.
I have also had alot of PM on this post about posting picture of a full auto. I see no problem in doing this. You can buy books with picture of full autos and how they work and post there picture if you have permission of the copy right holder.

Notice to anyone that post in this thread from this point on you are also authorizing me to contact you for private discussion. PM Email etc..
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Yes in the past 6 months.
In your pm you stated:
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Yes why. They told me this guy died six months ago and they found on living relative. He was 81 and his maid found him died. He was retired from IBM. WW2 Vet. No will state got all his other property. ATF got the guns because he He had a C&R license and registered full autos. The camo back drop came out of a wood crate which had magazine in.
Please explain why one year ago some of these photo's were posted by darkspace in this thread: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=308793

I asked darkspace where he got the photo's and this was the reply he sent me on April 16, 2011:

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pics I posted was taken by the net from an italian website of a fal collector friend, this is the link http://www.exordinanza.net/schede/FAL_50-00.htm

hope it will help,
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As you can see these pics have been around awhile and the rifle belongs to an Italian collector.

I don't know what your motive is but you are full of shit.
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In your pm you stated:

Please explain why one year ago some of these photo's were posted by darkspace in this thread: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=308793

I asked darkspace where he got the photo's and this was the reply he sent me on April 16, 2011:

darkspace wrote on April 16, 2011 13:07:
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pics I posted was taken by the net from an italian website of a fal collector friend, this is the link http://www.exordinanza.net/schede/FAL_50-00.htm

hope it will help,
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As you can see these pics have been around awhile and the rifle belongs to an Italian collector.

I don't know what your motive is but you are full of shit.
Interesting turn of events...
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Yes why. They told me this guy died six months ago and they found on living relative. He was 81 and his maid found him died. He was retired from IBM. WW2 Vet.....

He would have had to have been one of the youngest WWII vets to have seen service if he died six months ago at the age of 81....
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Can't Find thread: "ID this FAL" from Last Night

There was a thread started last night, I believe here in the FN section, entitled something like "ID this FAL".


It had several pictures of a beautiful Belgian M2 that had been in the hands of a collector in the US but had been turned in to the ATF and destroyed.


Where did this thread go? I wanted to save those pictures.
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There was a thread started last night, I believe here in the FN section, entitled something like "ID this FAL".


It had several pictures of a beautiful Belgian M2 that had been in the hands of a collector in the US but had been turned in to the ATF and destroyed.


Where did this thread go? I wanted to save those pictures.
Poster must have deleted it as it turned out his story was full of sh!te. The same pics were uncovered by someone else as being someone else's rifle in Italy, story of seeing the rifle and it being destroyed were a fabrication.

Here are a few of the same pics posted by a collector in Italy:
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showp...11&postcount=8

Here is a link to the Italian site the pics are from:
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http://www.exordinanza.net/schede/FAL_50-00.htm








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Old April 22, 2012, 13:37   #22
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When I read that thread yesterday I thought the OP was full of crap. He claimed he was some sort of computer tech associated with the BATF, yet his writing skills and grammar was extremely poor. That did not add up IMO. Also he said something about the BATF seizing over 1000 machine guns from some guy and destroying them. None of it made sense.
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Now everything is clear to me.

I was curious about the camo background. You don't think that ATF would allow you to take pictures and provide you with the camo background, too.

Why would someone make-up such a story? To gain what? To swindle some poor guys here in the States?
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Thanks guys!

Maybe its a fake story but the pictures are still nice.
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I saw the tread but didn't read the story. Who was the OP?
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Thread is now restored, stickied and locked. Everyone here should have the ability to know who among us is a POS liar.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328952
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I'm glad this guy got outed and plastered to the wall of shame. Must be something in the air. Seem it twice here, once over on gunboards, and an undecided, but likely over at the DW forums in the past week or so.
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I'm glad this guy got outed and plastered to the wall of shame. Must be something in the air. Seem it twice here, once over on gunboards, and an undecided, but likely over at the DW forums in the past week or so.
I figured out the Rogak deal because of the sellers inability to keep his
2 personalities straight, the other replied to his thread and the email
was from the OP's wtb thread.

The poster in this case lives in Houston, I sent him a pm inquiring of the
status of the rifle and he never returned the pm, I was dumbfounded no
one mentioned the fact there was an autosear showing in one of the pics.
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Well I feel better knowing all this now. When rereading his thread I now see the problems with his story. It still makes no sense why the pin head did it though. Wouldn't it have been easier to just post the pics and say look at what I found on the web? Idiot......
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Dirt bag. I recognized the photos instantly when I opened the thread because I have them saved on my hard drive and refer to them all the time. When I started reading I was astonished, an obvious lie in progress.
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Highrat master, Thank you very much.
I was spared the horror of seeing this yesterday and thinking that fine rifle had fallen into enemy hands.
Why on earth ,with only 190 or so posts in 6 yrs or so, would he do such a thing?
This seems like a cry for help, must have some low self esteem, or just a wanta be with nothing origional to contribute.

Dude ,
you dont have to lie or pretend to be here, and in fact its one of the worst things one can do to another ,or yourself. Not to mention it doesn't sit well with those of us who treat each other straight -up.
Come'on back and fess up, might help ya in many things.
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Don't think we'll see him posting here much anymore.

I second the good catch HRM! After I thought about it, I'd also seen those photos before as well. Just never put 2 & 2 together.

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When I read that thread yesterday I thought the OP was full of crap. He claimed he was some sort of computer tech associated with the BATF, yet his writing skills and grammar was extremely poor. That did not add up IMO. Also he said something about the BATF seizing over 1000 machine guns from some guy and destroying them. None of it made sense.
Read these posts for the first time today and this same thought crossed my mind...

Here our guy is, just another IT dweeb, working on the BATF's computers and he just happens to see this ultra rare FAL leaning agaisnt the wall. Well, our guy miraculously happens to have with him that day his camera and an ITALIAN camo shelter-half to serve as a back drop. BATF agents, ever accomodating, allow him to do an impromtu photo shoot.


Now how probable is that !
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all i know is that FAL is like 4 levels of sexy. If i get back in to them i mite try and make a semi auto clone of it.
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mmm!

Makes one wonder as to the OP's motives!
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What a weirdo....he probably does have low self esteem...what branch of the military did he claim to retire from? One thing I hate, is someone who claims to have served and never did.... Oh well.
I bet he's reading this right now and chewing out his dog for making him lie to us.
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I remember his origional post. What a screw up. Makes you wonder what someones motive would be for something like this. Must need attention like a child. It must have been a sinking feelin when he got owned. On a sight like this did he think nobody would recognize those photos.
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