Obama vs. Paul

[308bolt]

They're starting to get it.


"By ALEXANDER BURNS |
4/19/12 2:57 PM EDT

As the political world girds for a general election match-up between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, the airwaves are telling a different story: going by TV ads alone, you might think the campaign was between the president and Ron Paul.

That's because Mitt Romney pulled down his commercials after Rick Santorum dropped out of the Republican primary and Newt Gingrich can't afford to spend money on paid media. That leaves only Paul shelling out cash on the Republican side, as Obama airs TV ads targeting Hispanic voters in several states.

Paul is spending about $110,000 on commercials right now: $40,000 in Rhode Island, which holds its primary on Tuesday, and just under $71,000 on ads in Texas running April 23-29. He has already been up in Texas for days.

Even some of Paul's most die-hard supporters have begun to come around to the reality that this is probably the year he'll win the Republican presidential nomination, but as long as some of those activists keep donating to the campaign, Paul may be able to maintain a baseline-level presence on TV."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-...ul-121062.html

[DakTo]

[V guy]

Heeyaa!
Yep, dat Paul, he sure be runnin away with it!!

The money, that is.

[martin35]

Paul is spending about $110,000 on commercials right now
$110,000, that covers the time I spent reading this thread,,, what did they say?

[RG Coburn]

I see Ron Paul signs in peoples yards,but no Mitt Romney signs...and I am in the state he calls home,well...besides Taxachusettes.

[GuitarBob]

Originally Posted by RG Coburn

I see Ron Paul signs in peoples yards,but no Mitt Romney signs...and I am in the state he calls home,well...besides Taxachusettes.

Maybe they were just too lazy to pick them up.

[martin35]

If only yard signs could vote.

[rowjimmy]

http://www.dailylocal.com/article/20...publican-race-

[Munster30]

Originally Posted by martin35

If only yard signs could vote.

[308bolt]

Originally Posted by martin35

If only yard signs could vote.

If only the oblivious couldn't.

[Munster30]

...but as long as some of those activists keep donating to the campaign, Paul may be able to maintain a baseline-level presence on TV."

Paul's been collecting money from supporters (I believe PT Barnum had another name) even when he was no longer in congress.

[308bolt]

Originally Posted by Munster30

Paul's been collecting money from supporters (I believe PT Barnum had another name) even when he was no longer in congress.

Depending on how things go your choices at the polling booth may be obama or Romney.
How's that working out for you?
I'd like to be there to see you bite back the barf.

Paul's collecting money is part of a movement.
You could use one.

[martin35]

Originally Posted by martin35
If only yard signs could vote.

308quote; If only the oblivious couldn't.
How would that square with their rights, would you profile for Paulism only to the exlcusion of all others? That might equate to hidin' behind a rock and shootin' at folks.

[DakTo]

Originally Posted by rowjimmy

http://www.dailylocal.com/article/20...publican-race-

[308bolt]

Originally Posted by martin35

Originally Posted by martin35
If only yard signs could vote.

308quote; If only the oblivious couldn't.
How would that square with their rights, would you profile for Paulism only to the exlcusion of all others? That might equate to hidin' behind a rock and shootin' at folks.

No, I'd advocate for their right to vote and start a new constituency.
Then being that they're still oblivious, I'd walk them to the booth, buy 'em a forty and a pack of cigarettes and tell them to write in Clinton.

[DakTo]

Quote:

"Paul is spending about $110,000 on commercials right now: $40,000 in Rhode Island, which holds its primary on Tuesday, and just under $71,000 on ads in Texas running April 23-29. He has already been up in Texas for days."

It was reported today Ron Paul raised 10 Million in the first quarter of this year and has a balance of 2 Million.

Mitt Romney raised 12 Million in the month of March.

[Pistolwiz]

The RINO's are getting edgy 308. Many have turned and are now in our camp. Anybody that has been here for a time can see it. Many of them used to say hateful things about us wanting to restore the constitution. They are enlightened now.

Some RINO's will hold onto their false paradigm to their graves and the death of our republic. We just have to let them go.

Ron Paul WILL have enough delegates to prevent Romney from being crowned by the RINO's in the first round of voting at the convention in Florida. It's gonna be a fight. A big one. We don't give up so easy.

Just you guys watch......

[Pistolwiz]

Originally Posted by 308bolt

No, I'd advocate for their right to vote and start a new constituency.
Then being that they're still oblivious, I'd walk them to the booth, buy 'em a forty and a pack of cigarettes and tell them to write in Clinton.

Good point.... Alcohol sales have been banned on election days because long ago politicians would by a big bunch of alcohol. Make sure everybody knew who bought it.... And thus buy their drunken votes. These days it's EBT cards, welfare and government grants to insolvent companies.

[DakTo]

Originally Posted by Pistolwiz

The RINO's are getting edgy 308. Many have turned and are now in our camp. Anybody that has been here for a time can see it. Many of them used to say hateful things about us wanting to restore the constitution. They are enlightened now.

Some RINO's will hold onto their false paradigm to their graves and the death of our republic. We just have to let them go.

Ron Paul WILL have enough delegates to prevent Romney from being crowned by the RINO's in the first round of voting at the convention in Florida. It's gonna be a fight. A big one. We don't give up so easy.

Just you guys watch......

[Munster30]

Originally Posted by DakTo

Quote:

"Paul is spending about $110,000 on commercials right now: $40,000 in Rhode Island, which holds its primary on Tuesday, and just under $71,000 on ads in Texas running April 23-29. He has already been up in Texas for days."

It was reported today Ron Paul raised 10 Million in the first quarter of this year and has a balance of 2 Million.

Mitt Romney raised 12 Million in the month of March.

To hear it from the Ronulans, if you'd read about all the money Ron Paul has raised in his money bombs it would rival the economies of most first world nations. Question is, where's all that money going, I haven't seen or heard any of Ron's ad out my way.

[Pistolwiz]

Originally Posted by Munster30

To hear it from the Ronulans, if you'd read about all the money Ron Paul has raised in his money bombs it would rival the economies of most first world nations. Question is, where's all that money going, I haven't seen or heard any of Ron's ad out my way.

No reason to waste money where he is strong. Since you go by what is on the TV set you'd have no idea that RP has won the majority of delegates in WA state. But you don't know. You don't wanna know and you won't until the national convention.

So just keep sitting on your hands and watch us paste the RINO's.

BTW- Did you even participate in your local caucus? Did you even know that WA state has both a primary and caucus? Do you even understand that no delegates are assigned by the primary? The primary is just a straw poll/beauty contest.

Did you know that the Santorum delegation in WA state is now with Ron Paul because they want anybody but Romney?

I'd bet you didn't Munster.

[martin35]

Total Number of delegates: 2286
Unallocated delegates: 1151
Number of delegates needed to win: 1144
With 71 committed delegates Ron Paul would need to sweep the coming primaries.
So just keep sitting on your hands and watch us paste the RINO's.
Ridiculas.

[Temp]

Ron Paul is running on a platform of increased liberty for the American people.

If you don't want that, you're part of the reason that America is going down the chitter.

That's really all that's left to be said about it.

[308bolt]

Originally Posted by Temp

Ron Paul is running on a platform of increased liberty for the American people.

If you don't want that, you're part of the reason that America is going down the chitter.

That's really all that's left to be said about it.

No there's still hundreds if not thousands of posts about how liberty is over rated and not the democratic way and how it's impractical and the "majority" really doesn't want it anyway.
IOW: Plenty of excuses for not having the nuts to stand up and just accepting the status quo.

[Pistolwiz]

Originally Posted by martin35

Total Number of delegates: 2286
Unallocated delegates: 1151
Number of delegates needed to win: 1144
With 71 committed delegates Ron Paul would need to sweep the coming primaries.
So just keep sitting on your hands and watch us paste the RINO's.
Ridiculas.

What you're not understanding is that the plan is to prevent Romney from sweeping the first vote at the convention. If that is accomplished. All bets are off for the flip flopper.....

Sometimes fighting for a draw can bring on a win.

You really need to understand the process Martin.

So..... Are you a RINO in good standing?

[308bolt]

Originally Posted by Pistolwiz

What you're not understanding is that the plan is to prevent Romney from sweeping the first vote at the convention. If that is accomplished. All bets are off for the flip flopper.....

Sometimes fighting for a draw can bring on a win.

You really need to understand the process Martin.

So..... Are you a RINO in good standing?

He understands it.

[Pistolwiz]

Originally Posted by 308bolt

He understands it.

Doesn't seem so. Especially when most of the state conventions haven't been held yet. The 71 committed is a bullshit number brought to us by the lamestream media.

[glockfan]

Question is, where's all that money going

Because you haven't looked:

http://www.propublica.org/article/ro...t-transparency

TV is expensive, especially since Paul is correctly viewed as a threat by the same fascist mainstream media that lavish Romney with coverage, since they -- as well as the wall street welfare groups like Goldman Sachs -- know he isn't all that different from Obama.

To hear it from the Ronulans, if you'd read about all the money Ron Paul has raised in his money bombs it would rival the economies of most first world nations.

AND

It was reported today Ron Paul raised 10 Million in the first quarter of this year and has a balance of 2 Million.

Mitt Romney raised 12 Million in the month of March.

Largely from the exact same sources that were the top donors to Obama in 08:

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/romn...1/27/id/425780

Today, Goldman is Romney’s largest donor. And nine of Romney’s top 20 campaign contributors are big Wall Street Banks like Goldman. But Goldman leads all Romney contributors, having donated $367,200 to his campaign, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. And six of those nine top contributors received over $161 billion in taxpayer bailouts, reports ProPublica, the independent, Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative organization.


Keeping in mind that this info is a few months old and surely Romney has received more wall-street donations now, here is a graph of the 'hope and change' Romney donations compared to Obama's in 08, which is really funny considering how evil and bad anything associated with obama is by the neo-cons, but then things like this are completely overlooked:

http://gulagbound.com/wp-content/upl...ama-Romney.jpg


Big difference from raising money from the welfare receivers on Wall Street like Goldman Sachs -- the top contributor to Romney this year and Obama in 08 -- who know to keep donating to those who will make sure they are always bailed out for their risky behavior and won't have to face the consequences of failure, no matter what -- which is really no different than when the GOP talks about the individual citizens on welfare who keep voting Democrat.

I am sure it is a coincidence that Obama and Romney both favored the wall-street bailouts, right?

Considering groups like the active duty US military as a comparison to wall-street:

By the end of Feb this year:


Paul had been given $315,109
Romney had been given $36,108

[DakTo]

Originally Posted by Temp

Ron Paul is running on a platform of increased liberty for the American people.

If you don't want that, you're part of the reason that America is going down the chitter.

That's really all that's left to be said about it.

Well that leaves out about 98 percent of the rest of all American voters. What many of the 98 percent want is new jobs and a better quality of life and not more flag waving.

[DakTo]

Originally Posted by Pistolwiz

What you're not understanding is that the plan is to prevent Romney from sweeping the first vote at the convention. If that is accomplished. All bets are off for the flip flopper.....

Sometimes fighting for a draw can bring on a win.

You really need to understand the process Martin.

So..... Are you a RINO in good standing?

Let's see...It is the bottom of the ninth, two outs with no one on base, trailing by 10 runs and the manager sends a midget to the plate.

[shlomo]

Originally Posted by DakTo

Well that leaves out about 98 percent of the rest of all American voters. What many of the 98 percent want is new jobs and a better quality of life and not more flag waving.

I suspect that the reason the Jokker faded into the sunset is that he knew he couldn't compete with you.

[308bolt]

Originally Posted by DakTo

Let's see...It is the bottom of the ninth, two outs with no one on base, trailing by 10 runs and the manager sends a midget to the plate.

I was wondering how you got here.

Originally Posted by DakTo

Well that leaves out about 98 percent of the rest of all American voters. What many of the 98 percent want is new jobs and a better quality of life and not more flag waving.

If you represent the thought process of 98% of the voters I can see now how obama got elected.

[GuitarBob]

Originally Posted by 308bolt

No there's still hundreds if not thousands of posts about how liberty is over rated and not the democratic way and how it's impractical and the "majority" really doesn't want it anyway.
IOW: Plenty of excuses for not having the nuts to stand up and just accepting the status quo.

A candidate that can't get the nomination isn't going to be doing much for the cause of liberty.

[DakTo]

Originally Posted by shlomo

I suspect that the reason the Jokker faded into the sunset is that he knew he couldn't compete with you.

You continue to bring up someone called Jokker. Is he one of your mystical platitudes?

[shlomo]

Originally Posted by DakTo

You continue to bring up someone called Jokker. Is he one of your mystical platitudes?

No. The twin you were separated from at birth.

I guess the Jokk (sic) is on you.

[308bolt]

Reminds me of Manedwolf saying he didn't know who Rebar was.

[V guy]

L. Ron is doomed to failure.

The reason is so simple that even a Massachussets Commie can understand it.

He has two first names, like most good 'ol southern boys. Jim Bob, Bobby Bill, etc.

That is a guaranteed method of failure when it comes to soccer moms, independents, and libs. They automatically see the rebel flag.

Now take a name like Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, George Bush, etc etc. There IS much in a name today.

[308bolt]

Originally Posted by shlomo

No. The twin you were separated from at birth.

I guess the Jokk (sic) is on you.

Or wasn't.

[shlomo]

Originally Posted by V guy

L. Ron is doomed to failure.

The reason is so simple that even a Massachussets Commie can understand it.

He has two first names, like most good 'ol southern boys. Jim Bob, Bobby Bill, etc.

That is a guaranteed method of failure when it comes to soccer moms, independents, and libs. They automatically see the rebel flag.

No loss. People that dumb usually vote democrat anyhow.

[glockfan]

That is a guaranteed method of failure when it comes to soccer moms, independents, and libs. They automatically see the rebel flag.

I guess the Rebel flag is in these days with independents, since Paul ties obama in that group while Romney is 6 points behind.

I did laugh at your post though, Mr Krauthammer.

[Rick]

If RP was smart he'd move a move to pay off Santorum's campaign debts. He'd beat Romney to the punch and pickup Santorum's support. As an aside Al Sharpton still has outstanding campaign debt from his 2004 presidential run. About a million to various vendors and taxes to the federal govt.

[DakTo]

Originally Posted by Rick

If RP was smart he'd move a move to pay off Santorum's campaign debts. He'd beat Romney to the punch and pickup Santorum's support. As an aside Al Sharpton still has outstanding campaign debt from his 2004 presidential run. About a million to various vendors and taxes to the federal govt.

The results would be Paul would still not win a single remaining primary.

[alant]

Originally Posted by Rick

If RP was smart he'd move a move to pay off Santorum's campaign debts. He'd beat Romney to the punch and pickup Santorum's support. As an aside Al Sharpton still has outstanding campaign debt from his 2004 presidential run. About a million to various vendors and taxes to the federal govt.

I don't think RP is about buying people's support. Either you get RP or you don't (and I say that as someone who doesn't).

[308bolt]

Originally Posted by alant

I don't think RP is about buying people's support. Either you get RP or you don't (and I say that as someone who doesn't).

When you quit aligning yourself with one of the groups who believes their party's winning of an election and the other party's losing of the same is more important than the fate of the nation, you'll "get" him.

[Pistolwiz]

Originally Posted by 308bolt

When you quit aligning yourself with one of the groups who believes their party's winning of an election and the other party's losing of the same is more important than the fate of the nation, you'll "get" him.

He won't. Too much hubris.

Anyway....Shills aren't suppose to "get it". They just repeat what they see on the MSM and party talking points.

[DakTo]

Originally Posted by Pistolwiz

He won't. Too much hubris.

Anyway....Shills aren't suppose to "get it". They just repeat what they see on the MSM and party talking points.

Something for you to consider:

Alant's candidate has a good chance to win the November election.
I believe my candidate had even a better chance to winning the same election.
Your candidate has absolutely no chance of winning the November election.

[308bolt]

Originally Posted by DakTo

Something for you to consider:
I believe my candidate had even a better chance to winning the same election.

The past tense is rather telling.

[0302]

ron paul - ross perot - already forgotten. yawn. scratch n*ts. yawn. microwave popcorn.

[gates]

Probably - it just means we get to the re-set that much faster, if RP were elected he might be able to slow the decent into fiscal hell that we are living and that might make what's coming less painful but all out avoidance of the ice burg at this point is a non-starter - we've passed the event horizon.