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Old April 14, 2012, 21:58   #1
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Installed LTR tonight.

Was so easy I didn't even have to file. I just slid the old one out..which was snug (had no felt play), and lined up this new one. I had to gently tap with the palm of my hand to seat it as it was a little tighter than the one that came off. I want to thank Brian for the excellent customer service, he did exactly what he said he would do by when he said he would do it, and provided updates everytime. Now to select a site....I like the Eotech 552xr308 BDC and the Aimpoint H1. Just have to decide what is it going to be.



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Old April 15, 2012, 03:20   #2
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Looks good on your rifle too! even "naked".
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Old April 15, 2012, 16:31   #3
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I think Brian's LTR is perfect for red dots. Personally, I prefer Aimpoints for their proven ruggedness and long battery life. If Eotechs had the same track record as Aimpoints in actual combat and if they had a 5 year constant-on battery life, I'd get one because of the reticle.

I use another LTR done on a steel dustcover for a fixed 4X scope. I'm more than satisfied with the LTR and the optics I have mounted on them. 4X takes care of everything out to 600m or so. If I need to pick off mosquitoes at 1,000m, I'll use my bolt 6-.284.

Here's a link to a review I did a while ago http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288902
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I think Brian's LTR is perfect for red dots. Personally, I prefer Aimpoints for their proven ruggedness and long battery life. If Eotechs had the same track record as Aimpoints in actual combat and if they had a 5 year constant-on battery life, I'd get one because of the reticle.

I use another LTR done on a steel dustcover for a fixed 4X scope. I'm more than satisfied with the LTR and the optics I have mounted on them. 4X takes care of everything out to 600m or so. If I need to pick off mosquitoes at 1,000m, I'll use my bolt 6-.284.

Here's a link to a review I did a while ago http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288902
Sweet! I have a bolt .308 that I shoot 175 grains out to 1k also. For my FAL I'm thinking 25-400 yards should be the range. I didn't know the Aimpoints were more reliable than the EOTechs, that will way in on my decision especially given the new Patrol Red Dot Aimpoint just released.
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My son who has a combat tour in Afghanistan under his belt but who was not in the Infantry likes the Eotechs. Of course, he doesn't have to worry about them breaking since there's a whole arms room full of these things so he can just swap them out. I know a lot of guys who are 11B and they swear by the Aimpoints. Apparently, they will take some extreme abuse and keep on ticking.

Now that I'm getting to be an old guy, when I look through an Aimpoint I see multiple dots or oblong dots. It's a common eye condition that gets lots of us at some point. I don't have that issue with the Eotech reticle. But when shooting at critters and targets for real the lack of a single, crisp red dot in the Aimpoint has no effect on my hit potential. In fact, I don't even notice that the dot is not a perfect circle to my eye. The only time it bugs me is when I'm shooting off the bench for accuracy testing of loads.
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My son who has a combat tour in Afghanistan under his belt but who was not in the Infantry likes the Eotechs. Of course, he doesn't have to worry about them breaking since there's a whole arms room full of these things so he can just swap them out. I know a lot of guys who are 11B and they swear by the Aimpoints. Apparently, they will take some extreme abuse and keep on ticking.

Now that I'm getting to be an old guy, when I look through an Aimpoint I see multiple dots or oblong dots. It's a common eye condition that gets lots of us at some point. I don't have that issue with the Eotech reticle. But when shooting at critters and targets for real the lack of a single, crisp red dot in the Aimpoint has no effect on my hit potential. In fact, I don't even notice that the dot is not a perfect circle to my eye. The only time it bugs me is when I'm shooting off the bench for accuracy testing of loads.
Thanks for the info. I have been eyeballing that new Aimpoint Patrol that came out.
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Hey Steve, I've been having that same problem with my eyes trying to do some testing work with some various Red Dots. I thought it might be the optics, glad it's probably me and yes, on target work it does seem to be a problem more so.

Glad to hear all is going well. tell your son thanks for his service, from my family, to his.
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Old August 26, 2012, 02:33   #8
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Was so easy I didn't even have to file. I just slid the old one out..which was snug (had no felt play), and lined up this new one. I had to gently tap with the palm of my hand to seat it as it was a little tighter than the one that came off. I want to thank Brian for the excellent customer service, he did exactly what he said he would do by when he said he would do it, and provided updates everytime. Now to select a site....I like the Eotech 552xr308 BDC and the Aimpoint H1. Just have to decide what is it going to be.



OK here is the update. I purchased an EoTech 552 xr308 BDC and took it to the range on Friday. I also sighted in my AR with the new Burris MTAC 1x4x24 scope...pretty cool scope.

Being that the Eotech has a BDC the reticle was slightly canted (if it was just a dot or circle you wouldn't notice) once installed on the LTR. I am going to assume that the CSSR was mounted true but that maybe the dust cover formed differently as I used a rubber mallet to slightly tap it into place...I am pretty sure it will take some work to get the dust cover off, but I wanted it nice and tight so that once the scope was mounted it wouldn't move at all.

I started sighting in at 25, 50, and then 100 yards. At 100 yards my groups weren't so great. I would get 1" 9 O'Clock, then 1" 2 O'Clock, etc. I was using the surplas Portuguese Ammo..some of it didn't work so good because of the corrosion and I was getting some FTE's. Nevertheless I came to the conclusion that I wasn't going to be able to dial in my groups with the FAL like I was with my AR/Burris scope...of course I didn't expect to either.

Here is the positive news as I was feeling a little bummed my groups weren't tighter with the FAL/Eotech. I took the FAL/Eotech setup to the steel silhouette (sil) range. I took my Remington 700 first and started dropping the 60-70lb Ram sils out at (500 meters) 550 yards...no problem. I then tried my FAL/Eotech out and rested on the bench and held the sight at the 2nd dot (-6 BDC, 600 meter mark) on the Eotech and squeezed off a few rounds and could see the dirt flying up pretty close to the target, I then held at the top of the -6 BDC dot dead center, sqeezed off a round..and the target dropped. I then proceeded to drop 4 more targets at 550 yards with the Eotech.

In summary, I couldn't get 1 MOA at 100 yards, but I was dropping 3'W x 2'H steel sils at 550 yards..so that is pretty good IMO for a non precision rifle in my book. With my AR I could hit the steel sils (55 gr) and hear them hitting the steel sils but they weren't dropping.

I wish the reticle was perfectly straight but WTH it is shooting straigh enough with surplus ammo to hit at 550 yards with a zero magnification scope, plus the EoTech is not too heavy like 9-10ozs.

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Old August 27, 2012, 13:15   #9
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A cautionary note from the manufacturer here. I am slightly concerned with the fit you were talking about. I am a little concerned that the nose piece of the cover is being forced down into the area on the front of the receiver where it MAY be being pushed down into it. Make certain that that is not what is happening here with the extra tension supplied by the heel of your hand. Thanks and some pretty good shooting all told. As far as we at B&T are concerned the red dot is what we really intended the mount for and so far that is where it shines. The Aimpoint in either H-1 or T-1 configuration are really good choices.
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