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Old March 13, 2012, 13:58   #1
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Santorum-another big government supporter

In one of his recent interviews with the crowd, he was asked- just how is he going to limit the Federal Government that he said he would earlier this month
his response was "voto for Ron Paul if you want limited government"

What a clown

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Old March 13, 2012, 14:28   #2
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Even Santorum is honest occasionally.
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Ron Paul ain't going to be President. Not in November and not ever. Who wants to bet?
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Ron Paul ain't going to be President. Not in November and not ever. Who wants to bet?
He's as likely to become President as Santorum and could win against obama where Santorum can't.
But putting the hijack aside, even Santorum knows the only real small gov candidate is Paul.
Santorum ain't going to be President. Not in November and not ever. Who wants to bet?
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Ron Paul ain't going to be President. Not in November and not ever. Who wants to bet?

I will...... I'd betya that if RP doesn't win POTUS in 2012. That no matter who else wins. Our republic is DOA by 2016.

The stakes don't get higher than that.......

I'll also betya that anybody other than RP will lose against the obamanation and/or the Hildebeast. Stalin had it right. It's not who you vote for. It's who's counting the votes.

So 101....When are you gonna start actually defending and protecting the constitution instead of bitch and moan about RP?
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I will...... I'd betya that if RP doesn't win POTUS in 2012. That no matter who else wins. Our republic is DOA by 2016.

The stakes don't get higher than that.......

I'll also betya that anybody other than RP will lose against the obamanation and/or the Hildebeast. Stalin had it right. It's not who you vote for. It's who's counting the votes.

So 101....When are you gonna start actually defending and protecting the constitution instead of bitch and moan about RP?
I'm not bitching and moaning about Ron Paul. I just don't think he is ever going to be elected. Oh, and I done more than my share of defending and protecting the constitution, and not at a computer terminal, either...
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I'm not bitching and moaning about Ron Paul. I just don't think he is ever going to be elected. Oh, and I done more than my share of defending and protecting the constitution, and not at a computer terminal, either...
You bitch and moan about RP all the time. He's not gonna win, he's not gonna change anything, bla, bla, bla......

So now that you've finished protecting and defending the constitution......How about doing it again. Now?

But this time...with moral courage. Not physical courage. You up to it?
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Name one president or presidential candidate who isn't for big government. The lick their lips for near dictatorial powers. And as for Ron Paul... well I have traveled through, toured, and visited Ron Paul's district and it is a mighty shit hole. Yessiree bob. A mighty shithole. Will he be different as a prez? Well, it will be a risky experiment.

How to tell if a candidate might be a good president:
1. He is not greatly covered by the Zionist MSM.
2. He is not a member of the popular political landscape.

Hell, i'd rather vote for the dude with a boot on his head.
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The Titanic has a better chance of being brought back to the surface, than L.Ron has being elected Prez.
He ran into the big iceberg long ago.
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2. He is not a member of the popular political landscape.
That's a good description of Dr. Paul.
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You bitch and moan about RP all the time. He's not gonna win, he's not gonna change anything, bla, bla, bla......

So now that you've finished protecting and defending the constitution......How about doing it again. Now?

But this time...with moral courage. Not physical courage. You up to it?
OK, I get it. I'll cast logic and reality aside and write in Ron Paul, who isn't going to be on the ballot in November and ensure Obama gets another 4 years to complete the damage he is causing... Genius!
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OK, I get it. I'll cast logic and reality aside and write in Ron Paul, who isn't going to be on the ballot in November and ensure Obama gets another 4 years to complete the damage he is causing... Genius!
Alternatively, you can cast logic and reality aside and vote for someone who has no chance of beating obama like back in 08.
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OK, I get it. I'll cast logic and reality aside and write in Ron Paul, who isn't going to be on the ballot in November and ensure Obama gets another 4 years to complete the damage he is causing... Genius!
Your logic seems to be repeat the same thing over and over and expect a different result each time.

Your reality seems to be that vote R every time and this time it will be better.

Glass house...meet rock.
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Santorum was right for once. The GOP battered wife "he promised me he has changed" voters will never give up hope that this time, it is different! Just because he voted five times to raise the debt limit, voted for Medicare Part D -- the obamacare version of prescription drugs -- and No Child Left Behind, mandatory trigger locks, the Lautenberg Amendment, etc it doesn't mean that he won't go in there and radically cut spending and abolish government agencies while defending our rights, right? He says he will, even if he doesn't give any specifics, I still believe him! And just because he openly supports SOPA doesn't mean the government could ever misuse that to take down sites like this one, right?

What I also love is how the same people who are always going off about the mainstream media, how they don't trust them, and how liberal and evil they are literally go out of their way to repeat their themes over and over again when it has to do with Ron Paul.

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I often wonder what you are doing on a pro gun forum?







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I have that same wonderment.............
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Romney is a proven anti gun politicion, where does Santorum stand?
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Alternatively, you can cast logic and reality aside and vote for someone who has no chance of beating obama like back in 08.
Back in '08 there were TWO options on my ballot, McCain and Obama. I voted against Obama. Neither were my choice, but they were the only options I was given. I could have written myself in but somehow, I don't think I would have been elected...
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Your logic seems to be repeat the same thing over and over and expect a different result each time.

Your reality seems to be that vote R every time and this time it will be better.

Glass house...meet rock.
Well I sure as hell am not going to vote D! Go ahead, if you are so inclined...
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Romney is a proven anti gun politicion, where does Santorum stand?
In the 90s, he voted to support the Lautenberg Gun Ban, which stripped law-abiding gun owners of their Second Amendment rights for life, simply because they spanked their children or did nothing more than grab a spouses wrist.

He voted for a bill in 1999 disguised as an attempt to increase penalties on drug traffickers with guns… but it also included a provision to require federal background checks at gun shows.

And then he voted with gun-controlling Democrats Dianne Fienstein and Frank Lautenberg to mandate locks on handguns in 2005.

http://www.nationalgunrights.org/ric...i-gun-history/


As a bonus he helped anti gun Arlen Specter fight off Pat Toomey's challenge.





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Back in '08 there were TWO options on my ballot, McCain and Obama. I voted against Obama. Neither were my choice, but they were the only options I was given. I could have written myself in but somehow, I don't think I would have been elected...
McCain and Obama are close to being politically identical, so you should be happy with Obama.



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Back in '08 there were TWO options on my ballot, McCain and Obama. I voted against Obama. Neither were my choice, but they were the only options I was given. I could have written myself in but somehow, I don't think I would have been elected...
As long as people keep voting in that manner the parties will continue to propose the type of candidates that have been.
The parties count on it.
It's why they're still wielding the power they've accumulated over the electorate.
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Well I sure as hell am not going to vote D! Go ahead, if you are so inclined...

That is a false insinuation. Doesn't work 101. Try facts. You know DAMN well I don't go that way.

But if RP was a democrat and supporting the restoration of the constitution. You betcha I'd go democrat. Andrew Napolitano would get my vote also if he ran. No matter what party he belongs to. Or not. I don't give flying fuk what letter is in front of their name.

It's about the restoration of our republic and constitution. Which you seem to be against. Even though you swore to protect and defend it...How many times did you re-up 101? How many times did you swear to protect and defend that document? Huh? How many times?



You just don't get it...do you? You're so stuck in the muck of R vs D politics that you haven't a fuking clue.

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In the 90s, he voted to support the Lautenberg Gun Ban, which stripped law-abiding gun owners of their Second Amendment rights for life, simply because they spanked their children or did nothing more than grab a spouses wrist.

He voted for a bill in 1999 disguised as an attempt to increase penalties on drug traffickers with guns… but it also included a provision to require federal background checks at gun shows.

And then he voted with gun-controlling Democrats Dianne Fienstein and Frank Lautenberg to mandate locks on handguns in 2005.

http://www.nationalgunrights.org/ric...i-gun-history/


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So between Romney and Santorum who gives us the best chance of keeping our guns?
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That is a false insinuation. Doesn't work 101. Try facts. You know DAMN well I don't go that way.

But if RP was a democrat and supporting the restoration of the constitution. You betcha I'd go democrat. Andrew Napolitano would get my vote also if he ran. No matter what party he belongs to. Or not. I don't give flying fuk what letter is in front of their name.

It's about the restoration of our republic and constitution. Which you seem to be against. Even though you swore to protect and defend it...How many times did you re-up 101? How many times did you swear to protect and defend that document? Huh? How many times?



You just don't get it...do you? You're so stuck in the muck of R vs D politics that you haven't a fuking clue.

Sad.
At least I'll participate, rather than throwing away a vote. Do you think the ballot scanner at your poll is going to tally your scrawled losing candidate's name? It won't. You need to come to grips that Paul will not be elected. Not now, not ever. Maybe you should focus your energies on electing some conservative Reps and Senators from Washington! Is the marajuana bud still the State flower there?
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Santorum. I think Romney is a punk but he's better than Obonzo...
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At least I'll participate, rather than throwing away a vote. Do you think the ballot scanner at your poll is going to tally your scrawled losing candidate's name? It won't. You need to come to grips that Paul will not be elected. Not now, not ever. Maybe you should focus your energies on electing some conservative Reps and Senators from Washington! Is the marajuana bud still the State flower there?
When was the last time you were involved in a campaign? How dare you even think that in a free republic that voting ones conscience is throwing away a vote.

You will throw the whole country away supporting anybody that does not truly support and defend the constitution!

We have been working with C4l and others getting local politicians elected that support and defend the state and federal constitutions.

So don't you sit there and accuse me or anybody about throwing anything away. You threw away your oath. Of that I cannot abide.
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At least I'll participate, rather than throwing away a vote. Do you think the ballot scanner at your poll is going to tally your scrawled losing candidate's name? It won't. You need to come to grips that Paul will not be elected. Not now, not ever. Maybe you should focus your energies on electing some conservative Reps and Senators from Washington! Is the marajuana bud still the State flower there?
You seem happy to see that.

So 101...How many times did you swear to support and defend the constitution? And why is it now that you don't?
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Obviously more times than you... Why is it that you never seem to have anything bad to say about Obama? Every one of your posts are directed against those who don't drink the legalize pot message of RP. I'm beginning to think you and Gaylant are secret friends!
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Obviously more times than you... Why is it that you never seem to have anything bad to say about Obama? Every one of your posts are directed against those who don't drink the legalize pot message of RP. I'm beginning to think you and Gaylant are secret friends!
I beat on Barry Soetero and the first wookie all the time. Where the fuk have you been?

So now in desperation you try to falsely insinuate that all RP supporters are pot smokers. Let's say we all are just for arguments sake. OK? In that case a pot smoker is taking you to task and backing you up against the wall with your own words. Pretty sad when a pot smoker can back up a big, bad neocon thinker such as yourself. Wouldn't ya say?

I ask again 101...How many times did your swear to protect and defend the constitution? And why is it that you don't support and defend it now?
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James, what happened to you? You used to be a regular business man now it all about this Ron Paul obsession. Ron Paul isn't Jesus...

If you think you've backed anyone anywhere, you're more delusional than I thought.
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James, what happened to you? You used to be a regular business man now it all about this Ron Paul obsession. Ron Paul isn't Jesus...

If you think you've backed anyone anywhere, you're more delusional than I thought.

Like I said...You don't get it. It's NOT Ron Paul...It's HIS MESSAGE!

Save the republic! Why? Do you even give a rats ass? Why would you possibly want to support the republic and it's constitution when you're nice and cozy now?

Right?

I ask again.... How many times did you swear to uphold and protect the constitution? Why not so now? 3 times now. No answer. That says a lot.

Who gives a flying fuk who I was? I don't even care. So what? What matters is folks like you waking the fuk up!!! Your not a shill 101. Duck toe and Gaylant are lost. You not so... So I'll keep beating on ya because just maybe you are worth the effort.
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Old March 14, 2012, 18:59   #36
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Learn to read juanita...

I did read.
You voted for a big govt, deficit increasing, anti gun, warmongering socialist, and a big govt, deficit increasing, anti gun, warmongering socialist was elected.

Other than party affiliation, skin color and who has better hair, what is the BIG diff?




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So between Romney and Santorum who gives us the best chance of keeping our guns?
Both of those two are always more and bigger govt, ALL Constitutional rights will decrease under them just as they have under the long string of mainstream, bigger govt D & R presidents before them.

Neither has any real principles or convictions, if any kind of tragedy, attack takes place or just a good bipartisan "common sense" gun bill arrives on their desk you can count on both to sign off on it.





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So between Romney and Santorum who gives us the best chance of keeping our guns?
I don't really feel comfortable with either one. We all know about Romney's past on guns, and Santorum the moral crusader has voted for things that he was against because "sometimes you have to take one for the team." Santorum also voted for mandatory trigger locks and the evil Lautenberg Amendment, so he is not exactly some great friend of the Second Amendment. Hell, Santorum never shuts up about birth control and abortion, yet he voted for taxpayer dollars to go to fund both!
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Every one of your posts are directed against those who don't drink the legalize pot message of RP.
Actually, RP's message is to end the federal prohibition on drugs, and that states can do whatever they want. Why did we need a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol, yet the federal government did not need one for "drugs" several decades later? The exact same logic has given us gun control, the welfare society, obamacare, etc. Interesting how that works, eh?
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First- I do NOT trust either Sani-torry -room, Or billionarie mitts to protect our rights and think they both belong to the SAME RULING CLASS [ read that- polit buearu operachecks]. That class is TERRIFIED of "the people waking up", and Vets, and other "gun owners".
I also will support ANYONE who has a simular message with Dr Paul. If more of us had been voting our MORAL VALUES instead of "party" ,we'd not be so screwed now.
NO MORE rolling the ball ,kicking the can, hocus pocus folks ,this comming spring / summer is make or break for our freedoms.
I took an oath to protect our constitution from enemies both foreign AND domestic.
The ones inside the wire are FAR more dangerous.
Time to wake-up, or lay down and ready yerselves for serfdom.
Watch the enterprise. Chess is played well ,at three to five moves ahead.
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I have that same wonderment.............
Agreed. I'll "third" that statement.
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