Forgery? Sherrif Joe goes for Barry Soetero's jugular

[Pistolwiz]

I got this in an email......

I got our local liberal shill on ignore. I really don't give a flying fuk what a progressive liberal shill thinks. But this should flame his liberal bullshit but good.....


"President Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House on April 27, 2011, is suspected to be a computer-generated forgery, not a scan of an original 1961 paper document as represented by the White House when the long-form birth certificate was made public," Arizona's Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said at a press conference today in Phoenix.

This is the major preliminary finding of a six-month ongoing Sheriff's Cold Case Posse law enforcement investigation into the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate and his eligibility to be president.

Having developed probable cause to believe the long-form birth certificate was most likely a computer-generated forgery, investigators began examining other evidence of President Obama's life history.

Investigators additionally have developed credible evidence suggesting:

• President Obama's Selective Service card was most likely a forgery, revealed by an examination of the postal date stamp on the document;

• Records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by airplane passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., are missing records for the week of President Obama's birth, including the dates Aug. 1, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961.

Beginning in October 2011, the Sheriff's Cold Case Posse, consisting of former law enforcement officers and lawyers with law enforcement experience, examined dozens of witnesses and hundreds of documents, as well as taking numerous sworn statements from witnesses around the world.

In August 2011, 250 members of the Surprise, Arizona, Tea Party, residents of Maricopa County, presented a signed petition asking Sheriff Arpaio to undertake the investigation.

The Tea Party members petitioned under the premise that if a forged birth certificate was utilized to obtain a position for Barack Obama on the 2012 Arizona presidential ballot, their rights as Maricopa County voters could be compromised.

The Cold Case investigators further determined that the Hawaii Department of Health has engaged in what Sheriff's investigators believe is a systematic effort to hide from public inspection whatever original 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may have in their possession.

"Officers of the Hawaii Department of Health and various elected Hawaiian public officials may have intentionally obscured 1961 birth records and procedures, to avoid having to release to public inspection and to the examination of court-authorized forensic examiners any original Obama 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may or may not have," said Mike Zullo, the lead investigator in Sheriff Arpaio's Cold Case Posse.

The Cold Case investigators have not yet determined who, when, or precisely how the long-form computer-generated birth certificate released on April 27 may have been forged, but investigators say the evidence contained in the computer-generated PDF file released by the White House as well as important deficiencies in the Hawaii process of certifying the long-form birth certificate establish probable cause that a forgery has been committed.

The Cold Case Posse investigators advised Sheriff Arpaio that the forgers most likely committed two crimes: first, in fraudulently creating a forgery that the White House characterized, knowingly or unknowingly, as an officially produced governmental birth record; and second, in fraudulently presenting to the residents of Maricopa County and to the American public at large a forgery the White House represented as "proof positive" of President Obama's authentic 1961 Hawaii long-form birth certificate.

"A continuing investigation is needed to identify the identity of the person or persons involved in creating the alleged birth certificate forgery, and to determine who, if anyone, in the White House or the state of Hawaii may have authorized the forgery," Arpaio said.

Among the evidence released at the press conference were five videos the Cold Case Posse produced to demonstrate why the Obama long-form birth certificate is suspected to be a computer-generated forgery.

The videos consisted of step-by-step computer demonstrations using a control document.

The videos were designed to display the testing used by the investigators to examine various claims made by supporters of the April 27 document.

The videos illustrate point-by-point the investigators' conclusion that the features and anomalies observed on the Obama long-form birth certificate were inconsistent with features produced when a paper document is scanned, even if the scan of the paper document had been enhanced by Optical Character Recognition (OCR) and optimized.

Additionally, the videos demonstrated that the Hawaii Department of Health Registrar's name stamp and the Registrar's date stamp were computer-generated images imported into an electronic document, as opposed to actual rubber stamp imprints inked by hand or machine onto a paper document.

"That we were able to cast reasonable suspicions on the authenticity of the Registrar stamps was especially disturbing, since these stamp imprints are designed to provide government authentication to the document itself," Zullo said, stressing that if the Registrar stamps are forgeries, the document itself is likely a forgery.

The investigators also chronicled a series of inconsistent and misleading representations that various Hawaii government officials have made over the past five years regarding what, if any, original birth records are held by the Hawaii Department of Health.

"As I said at the beginning of the investigation," Arpaio said, "the president can put all this to rest quite easily. All he has to do is demand the Hawaii Department of Health release to the American public and to a panel of certified court-authorized forensic examiners all original 1961 paper, microfilm, and computer birth records the Hawaii Department of Health has in its possession."

Arpaio further stressed the Hawaii Department of Health needs to provide, as part of the full disclosure, evidence regarding the chain of custody of all Obama birth records, including paper, microfilm, and electronic records, in order to eliminate the possibility that a forger or forgers may have tampered with the birth records.

Arpaio went on to say the President should also authorize Kapiolani Hospital, the birth hospital listed on the Obama long-form birth certificate, to release any and all hospital patient records for Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, his mother, and for the newly born Barack Obama, in order to provide additional corroboration for the original 1961 birth records held in the Hawaii Department of Health vault.

"Absent the authentic Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other credible proof supporting the idea or belief that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, as he and the White House have consistently asserted," Zullo said.

"In fact, absent the authentication of Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other proof he was born anywhere within the United States."

Arpaio concluded the press conference by suggesting a congressional investigation might be warranted and asked that any other law enforcement agency with information referencing this investigation be forwarded to his office.

[alant]

And to think, it all begins with:

"I got this in an email......"

What could go wrong?

[NEWFNL1A1]

Originally Posted by alant

And to think, it all begins with:

"I got this in an email......"

What could go wrong?

This wasn't in an email......

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326086

[alant]

Originally Posted by NEWFNL1A1

This wasn't in an email......

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326086

That thread cites this link http://www.abc15.com/generic/news/live-video which features a live shot of a highway with a mountain in the background. Oh, down below is a story.

Arpaio scheduled the news conference Thursday to unveil preliminary results of an investigation, conducted by members of his volunteer cold-case posse, into the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate, a controversy that has been widely debunked but which remains alive in the eyes of some conservatives.

Mike Zullo, lead investigator with the department's cold case posse presented detailed evidence backing up the sheriff's claim.

"We do not have a single document that proves Mr. Obama's birth in Hawaii or anywhere in the United States for that matter," Zullo said. "The document is fake, the representation is fake.
. . .
The 79-year-old Republican sheriff defends his need to spearhead such an investigation after nearly 250 people connected to a Surprise, Ariz. tea party group requested one last summer.

"I'm not going after Obama," said Arpaio, who has criticized the president's administration for cutting off his federal immigration powers and conducting a civil rights investigation of his office. "I'm just doing my job."

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...#ixzz1numYhqOE


So, an investigation by volunteers, the qualifications of which we know nothing, has determined the document is a fake. Whoop-dee-friggin-doo!

Please take it to court, please make this a real news story we can watch for awhile, please make bigger fools of yourselves Arizona.

Papers please, Mr President! But you Republican candidates, we don't need yours, y'all look white.

[DABTL]

Too funny!!!!!!

[martin35]

Too funny!!!!!! Who won the DABTL return pot?

[Bawana jim]

Hey look who is back

DABTL This user is on your Ignore List.

Wonder who won the pool?

[NEWFNL1A1]

Originally Posted by alant

That thread cites this link http://www.abc15.com/generic/news/live-video which features a live shot of a highway with a mountain in the background. Oh, down below is a story.

Arpaio scheduled the news conference Thursday to unveil preliminary results of an investigation, conducted by members of his volunteer cold-case posse, into the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate, a controversy that has been widely debunked but which remains alive in the eyes of some conservatives.

Mike Zullo, lead investigator with the department's cold case posse presented detailed evidence backing up the sheriff's claim.

"We do not have a single document that proves Mr. Obama's birth in Hawaii or anywhere in the United States for that matter," Zullo said. "The document is fake, the representation is fake.
. . .
The 79-year-old Republican sheriff defends his need to spearhead such an investigation after nearly 250 people connected to a Surprise, Ariz. tea party group requested one last summer.

"I'm not going after Obama," said Arpaio, who has criticized the president's administration for cutting off his federal immigration powers and conducting a civil rights investigation of his office. "I'm just doing my job."

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...#ixzz1numYhqOE


So, an investigation by volunteers, the qualifications of which we know nothing, has determined the document is a fake. Whoop-dee-friggin-doo!

Please take it to court, please make this a real news story we can watch for awhile, please make bigger fools of yourselves Arizona.

Papers please, Mr President! But you Republican candidates, we don't need yours, y'all look white.

That news conf link was live when I posted it....just saying I watched the news conf and these were investigators in the sheriff's dept and forensic document experts....not something in an email. Read the news conf transcript...it's available.

[JeffJ]

Forgery, who would have guessed, now what are they gonna do about it?
I think they have a "person of interest" who they want to interview to see who authorized it.

Since it is fake shouldn't obummer go to jail for fraud??? I hope to see him there sooner than later.

[Hunters]

Here's the problem I have with the whole birth certificate debate...

If you ask any swingin dick politician what they are, they'll tell you the are an honest and humble "public servant"

As a strong believer in natural law, if a politician is a "public servant" that means the "public" is the master. As the master, we have every right to review the qualifications and resume of the "servants" before and during their tenure as our "servant"

Realize this, every elected "servant" loves little controversies like this because they know damn well the faithful sheep in their party will rally around them, raise money for them, and defend them to the point of insulting people asking honest questions that deserve an answer.

It's crap happens with every president I've lived through and no one seems to catch on to the game being played and how they are being used as the fool.

[Othello]

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-j...icate-a-fraud/

Videos connected with the investigation are below the article.

Sounds like good probable cause to open a full blown investigation on this.


Hello congress? The country is calling...

[RG Coburn]

Originally Posted by JeffJ

Forgery, who would have guessed, now what are they gonna do about it?
I think they have a "person of interest" who they want to interview to see who authorized it.

Since it is fake shouldn't obummer go to jail for fraud??? I hope to see him there sooner than later.

Not fraud...espionage. He is a foreign national,who used deception to access the highest elected office in the U.S. He is a spy.

[alant]

Yes, yes, yes! At last, Sherriff Joe has got the goods on Obama.

Oh wait, the Sherriff doesn't prosecute cases. We need a DA or AG to take this to court. Otherwise it's just another civil case - dismissed because the plantiff doesn't have standing . . . for the umpteenth time.

And the evidence is compiled by who, a posse? Geez, the DA or AG isn't going to use that in court, not and keep their job.

Sherriff Joe, wtf shiite is this?

Notice how carefully Joe worded his statements, to avoid any charges coming back at him.

[MK ULTRA]

Originally Posted by DABTL

Too funny!!!!!!

Oh you SOB you are back

[tdb59]

Originally Posted by DABTL

Too funny!!!!!!

fmr !

[gates]

You guys see what Alant is doing? he doesnt give a SHIT if we have a Kenyan running our country...

Maybe Obummer IS legit - who knows. ALANTs position is the PROBLEM with our country though! - he is so BLINDLY partisan that he can't be an AMERICAN first and a Democrat second - thats why we are fuked folks - when this falls apart, red state America will be forced to deal with folks like Alant - it's a shame and it is COMPLETELY in HIS hands.

[Hunters]

Originally Posted by gates

You guys see what Alant is doing? he doesnt give a SHIT if we have a Kenyan running our country...

Maybe Obummer IS legit - who knows. ALANTs position is the PROBLEM with our country though! - he is so BLINDLY partisan that he can't be an AMERICAN first and a Democrat second - thats why we are fuked folks - when this falls apart, red state America will be forced to deal with folks like Alant - it's a shame and it is COMPLETELY in HIS hands.

When the rumors were flying around that Bush was AWAL from the Texas Airguard, how many republicans demanded he clear the whole mess up by releasing military records? How much radio air time was wasted by Neo-Con talking heads that Bush didn't have to even respond to these questions?

I don't know about you, but I know tons of people that became tools of Bush over that whole deal.

Alant is now a tool of Obama, a useful idiot. But it's all a game.

Here's the big picture Alant, Obama has destroyed contract law, tried to nationalize industries, racked up debt unthinkable just 4 years ago and handed the cash off to his supporters, bombed countries without congressional approval, sends drones into other countries killing innocent civilians by the hundreds, ordered the killing of Americans without trial and signed laws that allow the detention of Americans without charge or trial..

But he would never forge a document, that would be wrong

[DakTo]

We will never get Obama out of office with this type of conjecture as most Americans don't make it a priority at this point to demand the truth. The man is in office and these same Americans do not wish to uncover any type of birth conspiracy, initiate impeachment process and soil the office of the Commander in Chief.

What can be accomplished is for the independents and moderates to ban together and vote the fraud out of office.

[Sailor553]

Oh wait, is that Jerry Corsi standing next to Sheriff Joe?
nuff said

[Pistolwiz]

Originally Posted by Sailor553

Oh wait, is that Jerry Corsi standing next to Sheriff Joe?
nuff said

Yep...Doesn't mean a damn thing as far as the evidence. 'Nuff said.

[Bawana jim]

Originally Posted by gates

You guys see what Alant is doing? he doesnt give a SHIT if we have a Kenyan running our country...

Maybe Obummer IS legit - who knows. ALANTs position is the PROBLEM with our country though! - he is so BLINDLY partisan that he can't be an AMERICAN first and a Democrat second - thats why we are fuked folks - when this falls apart, red state America will be forced to deal with folks like Alant - it's a shame and it is COMPLETELY in HIS hands.

Fact is stupid people don't know they are stupid and can't learn. It's why I put them on ignore.

.

[Pistolwiz]

Originally Posted by Bawana jim

Fact is stupid people don't know they are stupid and can't learn. It's why I put them on ignore.

.

Same here......

I hear stupid people! I can't stuff a rag in their mouth and light it up.... So they go on ignore.

[DakTo]

Originally Posted by Bawana jim

Fact is stupid people don't know they are stupid and can't learn. It's why I put them on ignore.

.

If they are placed in your ignore list they cannot technically be considered stupid people any longer.

[101ABN327]

Originally Posted by DABTL

Too funny!!!!!!

TAILPIPE!!!!! We thought you had gone back to San Francisco with a boyfriend and gone native!

[L Haney]

This will go nowhere. Not enough people give a damn. Oh yeah, the guys in Washington called. They didn't bother to tell everybody to shut up. Said they ain't listening anyway and we were too stoopid to notice and do anything about it.

[L Haney]

Forgot to add:

If you go to work in a car registered in your name, and you are driving it, you have absolutely no say in our federal government. None whatsoever.

Quick rule of thumb for the ones on here get confused about how all this works.

[alant]

Originally Posted by gates

You guys see what Alant is doing? he doesnt give a SHIT if we have a Kenyan running our country...

Maybe Obummer IS legit - who knows. ALANTs position is the PROBLEM with our country though! - he is so BLINDLY partisan that he can't be an AMERICAN first and a Democrat second - thats why we are fuked folks - when this falls apart, red state America will be forced to deal with folks like Alant - it's a shame and it is COMPLETELY in HIS hands.

Gates, I claim the exact opposite. BLINDLY partisan, man, look in the mirror. Red state America? You claim to speak for this non-entity?

Obama is a sitting President. He has provided more documentation than any of the GOP candidates, more than any past President that I'm aware of. This has been in court what, 70+ times?

As far as the vast majority of Americans are concerned this is a settled issue. Without a smoking gun this is not going to change. Allegations of fraud by some "posse" made up of fringe element Teapartiers (by that I mean the fringe of the Tea Parrty, not that all Teapartiers are fringe) only excites the fringe. Everyone else is rolling their eyes. The fringe had plenty of chances in court and have only succeeded in proving their own incompetence.

The people that continue to push this are hard coure anti-Obama and no amount of "proof" is going to convince them he is legit, EVER. They come off, increasingly so, as nutjobs. No national political figure will talk about Obama's birth certificate in a negative way. The Orly Taitz types have completely disgraced themselves in and out of court. The MSM treats the court cases, the plantiffs and the Sherriff Joes with disbelief, disdain and disregard. Colbert and Stewart no longer bother to use them as fodder.

You should be asking yourself "WHY aren't any of these court cases getting traction?" There are two possible reasons, first a lack of competent legal representation, secondly the lack of a legitimate legal case (for several reasons).

If I thought Obama was illegit I'd be calling for his removal, trial and sentencing. Fringe element Obama-hating conspiracy theorists who can't put together a court case to save their lives don't impress me much.

[martin35]

In any of the other 70 plus investigations did the forensic experts declare the document was not originated from a paper document?
I was born 50 miles out in the boon docks and have no birth certificate,,, I'll never get to be President,,,, unless I become a Democrat.

[L Haney]

Originally Posted by martin35

In any of the other 70 plus investigations did the forensic experts declare the document was not originated from a paper document?

Yes, several under oath while giving testimony. A regular rash of perjury it seems. I'm sure they will be caught out and incarcerated for their crime. After all, they are 'little people'.

[tdb59]

Just got a memo from .gov

Said they put us on the ignore list a long time ago...

[homelandprotector]

I fuckin love this picture.........

[alant]

[Pistolwiz]

Originally Posted by homelandprotector

I fuckin love this picture.........

[JeffJ]

Originally Posted by alant

Gates, I claim the exact opposite. BLINDLY partisan, man, look in the mirror. Red state America? You claim to speak for this non-entity?

Obama is a sitting President. He has provided more documentation than any of the GOP candidates, more than any past President that I'm aware of. This has been in court what, 70+ times?

As far as the vast majority of Americans are concerned this is a settled issue. Without a smoking gun this is not going to change. Allegations of fraud by some "posse" made up of fringe element Teapartiers (by that I mean the fringe of the Tea Parrty, not that all Teapartiers are fringe) only excites the fringe. Everyone else is rolling their eyes. The fringe had plenty of chances in court and have only succeeded in proving their own incompetence.



The people that continue to push this are hard coure anti-Obama and no amount of "proof" is going to convince them he is legit, EVER. They come off, increasingly so, as nutjobs. No national political figure will talk about Obama's birth certificate in a negative way. The Orly Taitz types have completely disgraced themselves in and out of court. The MSM treats the court cases, the plantiffs and the Sherriff Joes with disbelief, disdain and disregard. Colbert and Stewart no longer bother to use them as fodder.

You should be asking yourself "WHY aren't any of these court cases getting traction?" There are two possible reasons, first a lack of competent legal representation, secondly the lack of a legitimate legal case (for several reasons).

If I thought Obama was illegit I'd be calling for his removal, trial and sentencing. Fringe element Obama-hating conspiracy theorists who can't put together a court case to save their lives don't impress me much.

What has he provided? a couple of computer generated forgeries...you think telling a lie enough times make it true??

[J MOSBY]

Members of the Communist party are well protected at all cost. Non communist's are squshed like a bug.

[JM]

Bees have a far superior defence mechanism than humans especially when the beehive has been taken over by a parasite. No political correctness there--they sting the son of a bitch to death and kick the carcass out of the nest. Humans--walk around with their head up their ass, tweedle on a blackberry and insult, belittle the few workers that would protect them from the threat. Sheesh--no hope for humans!

[Pistolwiz]

Originally Posted by JeffJ

What has he provided? a couple of computer generated forgeries...you think telling a lie enough times make it true??

Oh that's because they went to the Goebbels school of politiks.....


"Say a lie often enough. It becomes the truth."

[fastback65]

It is curious to me that people expect liberals to lie, yet they are surprised DABTL is back.

[andresere]

Originally Posted by DakTo

The man is in office and these same Americans do not wish to uncover any type of birth conspiracy, initiate impeachment process and soil the office of the Commander in Chief.

I'm pretty certain the Office of the CiC was well and truly soiled on a blue dress, so WTF difference does this make? Alant, you have anything wise to say to that? Well, Sir, do ya?

[alant]

Originally Posted by andresere

I'm pretty certain the Office of the CiC was well and truly soiled on a blue dress, so WTF difference does this make? Alant, you have anything wise to say to that? Well, Sir, do ya?

Surely you don't think Clinton was the first or the only President to have an afair while in office.

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs.../98apr/lbj.htm
When people mentioned Kennedy's many affairs, Johnson would bang the table and declare that he had more women by accident than Kennedy ever had on purpose.

[NEWFNL1A1]

Originally Posted by alant

Surely you don't think Clinton was the first or the only President to have an afair while in office.

Alant, I think he is referring to Clinton as the only president to have an affair in "the Oval" Office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky

[alant]

Originally Posted by NEWFNL1A1

Alant, I think he is referring to Clinton as the only president to have an affair in "the Oval" Office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky

It would surprise me if that were the case. We'll probably never know.

[one hand clapping]

So how many wrongs make a right in your world??

[101ABN327]

Originally Posted by alant

Surely you don't think Clinton was the first or the only President to have an afair while in office.

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs.../98apr/lbj.htm
When people mentioned Kennedy's many affairs, Johnson would bang the table and declare that he had more women by accident than Kennedy ever had on purpose.

No. Klinton's idol, JFK was a well known unibanger, while in office. Not only did he utilize the oval office for his dalliances, but the residence, hotel rooms and anywhere he could find a place. His marriage to Jacky, like Klinton's to Hillary, was a sham marriage, carefully scripted to BS the gullible electorate.

[Pistolwiz]

Originally Posted by 101ABN327

No. Klinton's idol, JFK was a well known unibanger, while in office. Not only did he utilize the oval office for his dalliances, but the residence, hotel rooms and anywhere he could find a place. His marriage to Jacky, like Klinton's to Hillary, was a sham marriage, carefully scripted to BS the gullible electorate.

I really don't care what a POTUS does with his dick. I DO care what he does with his pen.

[garandguy10]

The Birth certificate scandel is all over the news, you can not watch any TV or surf the web without running across lengthy articles and vitriolic news anchors calling for the investigation of Obama's birth records.

Congress is reeling from this issue and is gearing up to investigate and impeach Obama over his fraudulent birth certificate.

Never before in the history of the USA has Congress become so focused on one issue, well at least since WW2.

Watergate is a footnote in US history compared to Birthgate.




NOT............



Obama's second term.....believe it..........

[JM]

Obama's second term.....believe it..........America dies.....believe it...........

[one hand clapping]

America is a way of being, that will live on ,despite the socialists and the fascists,and their bankster overlords. It lives on in my heart and mind as well as alot of you guys reading this right now. Its up to us to pass this ideal/ way of being on to our families, friends, neighbors, PASTORS and all else who might desire freedom.
America as a free representive republic of independant individuals,allowed to persue their fortunes without interference from "the king, or his sheriffs" might have been put into a comma and is hurt'n real bad, but its not over YET.

They can kill our industry, they can kill our monetary system,they can posion the food and water, but some of us WILL still survive, and with-in those survivors ,the flame of free ideas ,and freedom to live one's life as one chooses burns like a spark that can rise up into a flame in moments . Those flames are starting to be seen right now. haven't ya'll seen all the smoke in the mirrors recently?
keep the faith, in yourself, in your creator, and in right action.-you'll know when its time to act. Until then prepare,and keep yer head down,especially for the first few days of "problems".
I hope sheffiff Joe really gets his "man". the lying punk deserves it ,and then some for what he's done .[ before one of the trolls jumps me -
done as in - lied thru his pretty teeth to get elected ,and then has done the EXACT opposit Of what he promised.Including overseaing operation GUNWALKER , dissassembling out nukes, getting more good troops killed, higher unemployment AFTER the gifts to goldman and JP morgans crew--]course those who OWN the broadcast media will not allow the truth to be discussed about their "boy".

[Pistolwiz]

Originally Posted by JM

Obama's second term.....believe it..........America dies.....believe it...........

Some of you give up waaaaay too easily. It's not even that bad yet. But already giving up....

[Pistolwiz]

Getting some traction now......