Parts kit legality in California

187 · October 27, 2011, 09:59

Would a 5.45 AK Krinkov kit be legal to ship to CA? What about a stripped receiver (shipped to an FFL ofcourse)?

FALderal · October 27, 2011, 14:21

pretty sure you'd be legal:
but to be safe, contact this fellow in
the Sacramento area. Probably one
of the most knowledgable about current
CA laws, etc. & most helpful FFL i've met.

He is standup guy, in last year he has helped
with purchases of Coonan FAL and Nodak AK receivers.

Robby Betts
Golden State Tactical
rob@goldenstatetactical.com
916-961-7189

**xtremerange** · October 27, 2011, 14:59

Nothing illegal in the kit unless it includes an intact magazine with more than 10 round capacity. The receiver is almost certainly legal but there are a small number of them (compared to currently generally available bare receivers) that are listed by name as being prohibited.

**Blackmore** · October 28, 2011, 06:49

Quote:

Originally posted by FALderal
many dealers/FFL's in CA will not handle anything in Semi-Auto; they
are so fearful of ATF coming down on them.

Really? ATF now enforces California law? If I were a Cali FFL I'd be a lot more worried about the CA DOJ.

blueyedfaler · October 28, 2011, 08:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Blackmore

Really? ATF now enforces California law? If I were a Cali FFL I'd be a lot more worried about the CA DOJ.

Thank you, there is so much missunderstanding about the feds and states
You are right about the ca doj.

187 · October 28, 2011, 09:47

Thanks. This is a NODAK receiver so it's not named as prohibited as far as I can tell. I'll withold the magazine if it sells to a CA buyer.

**thedrickel** · October 28, 2011, 13:17

The magazine can be shipped disassembled. Remove the full auto trigger components from the kit though, if you send it to CA.

FALderal · October 28, 2011, 13:56

Attempting to be helpful to 187.

who btw is an excellent gunsmith.

i live in n. california; and traveled to at least 5 different
locations in/around the area; i've had several instances
of ffl's dealers flat out turn me down; and mentioned
the alphabet agencies by name as well as DOJ.

There is no need for sniping; because you think you know
better.

I was fortunate to happen upon Golden Tactical and was
just passing on the info.

pilotisaac · November 02, 2011, 17:52

I concur with Golden State Tactical. I've gone through Robby several times - proud to be his first L1A1 receiver transaction.

He's incredibly knowledgeable and flexible. If it can be done legally, he'll know how to do it.

I've also had numerous experiences where FFLs don't want anything to do with 'off list lowers'. Not 'sporting' or something like that...

"A well-fed and complacent sportsman being necessary to the existence of a slave state, the privilege of the people to keep and use regulated hunting arms in select locations and seasons shall only be infringed upon a little bit at a time."

AndyC · November 03, 2011, 19:06

Quote:

Originally posted by pilotisaac
"A well-fed and complacent sportsman being necessary to the existence of a slave state, the privilege of the people to keep and use regulated hunting arms in select locations and seasons shall only be infringed upon a little bit at a time."

Now that's an awesome quote - mind if I steal that?

October 27, 2011, 09:59	#1
187 Registered FALaholic #: 3967 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,041	Parts kit legality in California Would a 5.45 AK Krinkov kit be legal to ship to CA? What about a stripped receiver (shipped to an FFL ofcourse)? __________________ Magnum Gunsmithing, Ltd. Type 07 Licensed Manufacturer North Lima, OH www.magnumgunsmithing.com

October 27, 2011, 14:21	#2
FALderal Registered FALaholic #: 5007 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: whereabouts unknown Posts: 192	pretty sure you'd be legal: but to be safe, contact this fellow in the Sacramento area. Probably one of the most knowledgable about current CA laws, etc. & most helpful FFL i've met. He is standup guy, in last year he has helped with purchases of Coonan FAL and Nodak AK receivers. Robby Betts Golden State Tactical rob@goldenstatetactical.com 916-961-7189 __________________ "The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." Samuel Adams There is a fine line between a genius and a lunatic. Do not cross it! -anonymous He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. -Nietzsche

October 27, 2011, 14:59	#3
xtremerange Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 4305 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,339	Nothing illegal in the kit unless it includes an intact magazine with more than 10 round capacity. The receiver is almost certainly legal but there are a small number of them (compared to currently generally available bare receivers) that are listed by name as being prohibited. __________________ --David

October 28, 2011, 09:47	#6
187 Registered FALaholic #: 3967 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,041	Thanks. This is a NODAK receiver so it's not named as prohibited as far as I can tell. I'll withold the magazine if it sells to a CA buyer. __________________ Magnum Gunsmithing, Ltd. Type 07 Licensed Manufacturer North Lima, OH www.magnumgunsmithing.com

October 28, 2011, 13:17	#7
thedrickel don't tax me, bro Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 19388 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,191	The magazine can be shipped disassembled. Remove the full auto trigger components from the kit though, if you send it to CA. __________________ "During my 18 years I came to bat almost 10,000 times. I struck out about 1,700 times and walked maybe 1,800 times. You figure a ball player will average about 500 AB's a year. That means I played seven years in the major leagues without even hitting the ball." Mickey Mantle

October 28, 2011, 13:56	#8
FALderal Registered FALaholic #: 5007 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: whereabouts unknown Posts: 192	Attempting to be helpful to 187. who btw is an excellent gunsmith. i live in n. california; and traveled to at least 5 different locations in/around the area; i've had several instances of ffl's dealers flat out turn me down; and mentioned the alphabet agencies by name as well as DOJ. There is no need for sniping; because you think you know better. I was fortunate to happen upon Golden Tactical and was just passing on the info. __________________ "The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." Samuel Adams There is a fine line between a genius and a lunatic. Do not cross it! -anonymous He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. -Nietzsche

November 02, 2011, 17:52	#9
pilotisaac Registered FALaholic #: 54084 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 31	I concur with Golden State Tactical. I've gone through Robby several times - proud to be his first L1A1 receiver transaction. He's incredibly knowledgeable and flexible. If it can be done legally, he'll know how to do it. I've also had numerous experiences where FFLs don't want anything to do with 'off list lowers'. Not 'sporting' or something like that... "A well-fed and complacent sportsman being necessary to the existence of a slave state, the privilege of the people to keep and use regulated hunting arms in select locations and seasons shall only be infringed upon a little bit at a time."

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