DO NOT deal with weeksway1!

**AEnemaBay** · October 06, 2011, 17:10

A week or so ago I entered into a trade deal with weeksway1 (Chris Weeks) for my M&P45 package (http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...postid=3215781). He offered his FAL receiver, kit, two barrels, and misc. extra parts. Even though the receiver was a Century I decided it was fine since I've built a few FAL's on Century's with no problems and the two barrels were the lengths that I've been wanting to play with (16" and a 13"). So we trade, and when I go to pick up the receiver this is what I find:

The receiver is absolutely doused is cheap spray paint to the point that it made a few numbers of the serial hard to read. The magazine release and bolt hold open were practically fused to the receiver (he didn't disassemble anything when he sprayed it). On top of that, the rear of the receiver and lug were very poorly filed on. It pretty bad when my FFL, who's the king of trying to pass of turds as diamonds, says "That looks like dog shit."

I start thinking to myself, "Alright, I was going to refinish anyway, so as long as the other parts are good to go we'll be fine." Then I get home and find the other package on the table, open it up, and here's what I find:

A lot of the parts were either broken or badly messed up with grinds, gouges, or dents all at the same time covered up with that same globed on paint. I go to the barrels to check them out and the 13" barrel is barely holding on to the flash hider by a thread or two and they're metric barrels with Inch gas blocks. On the 16", the gas block actually wobbled side to side and back to front. They also looked like they had been turned down on a grinding wheel:

Yeah, that's right, the original gas port is still present in that 13" barrel; wasn't even attempted to be plugged up by anything. When I contacted him about this whole thing he said he was "insulted" that I didn't feel that this "kit" wasn't worth $750 and that because he gave extras I should be happy. At this point I just want my pistol, holster, and Surefire back, but he's no longer responding to my emails. Let this be a warning to all of you who consider dealing with this man.

Here are the pics he sent me prior to the trade and his offer:

"Here are the pics. The rifle is complete. The only reason I said ill ship it as a kit is cause the upper that's on it in the pic is a short gas setup with 13" barrel and stg flash hider. A fal member cut and threaded the barrel and when i installed it came to 15 3/4 " so I quickly removed it and took to my brothers house. My plans where to remove the flash hider and install one to bring it to legal length. I went a head and purchased the 16 1/4" and standard gas system barrel for the mean time. Ill include both but will not ship them together. If kept with that flash hider it will have to be registered as a sbr. That wasn't my intention so I dismantled it. I wanted to thread the 16" barrel and never got around to it and really don't have the funds to complete it. I have alot of money already into this rifle and hate to let it go. Feel free to ask any questions.

Chris "

RG Coburn · October 06, 2011, 19:03

Wow...coulda at least thrown in a jar of vaseline with that screwing...

Groza9 · October 06, 2011, 20:04

Wow. Has he replied at all or been banned?
That really is beyond anything I've seen for a while.

**308/223shooter** · October 06, 2011, 20:37

Must be related to my neighbor, his last name is the same. Small world 'eh?
Sorry you got so bloody buggered.

**olgier** · October 06, 2011, 21:05

That's not even close to what he tried to represent it as.

**garyd1961** · October 06, 2011, 21:30

I know this doesn't make things any better but I believe they are open ear metric gas blocks.

**LaConservationist** · October 06, 2011, 21:57

I tried my best to NOT comment......BUT what a friken TRAIN WRECK!!
There is just NO EXCUSE at all for that crap!! I have thrown away better looking parts!!

Hate it for ya my brother!!

LaC

**AEnemaBay** · October 06, 2011, 22:29

Quote:

Originally posted by garyd1961
I know this doesn't make things any better but I believe they are open ear metric gas blocks.

You're right, they are. I didn't even know there were open ear metrics. Unfortunately only one actually fits on the barrels without wobbling and the one that does fit the ears are bent inward more than the loose one.

FUUN063 · October 07, 2011, 15:28

Well, at least the receiver locking lug can be built up and refiled/machined. Good luck with the parts. Sorry.

Leland

**4x401** · October 07, 2011, 17:45

What a piece of CRAP!

That is, Weeks AND his poor excuss for a kit.

The guy needs an ass woop`in REAL bad.
Sorry ya got scalped.

RG Coburn · October 07, 2011, 19:56

Did that BGS front end come with it? It doesn't look too molested.
I am going to definitely take a lesson away with is OP.
Always get an inspection period in writing when doing trades like this.
That,and REALLY inspect photos before popping on a deal. You can see some of the,ahem,anomolies in those photos,but easy to see why you might have missed them.

**AEnemaBay** · October 07, 2011, 20:01

Quote:

Originally posted by RG Coburn
Did that BGS front end come with it? It doesn't look too molested.
I am going to definitely take a lesson away with is OP.
Always get an inspection period in writing when doing trades like this.
That,and REALLY inspect photos before popping on a deal. You can see some of the,ahem,anomolies in those photos,but easy to see why you might have missed them.

Oh I have learned a valuable lesson with all of this. And yes, now that I know what the problems are I can see some of them in the pics he sent. From now on I'm not going to accept blurry and/or far off pics on trades.

FUUN063 · October 09, 2011, 20:56

And, if you even remotely suspect an area of a kit or such, then ask up front for detailed, up close pics before making the deal. I try to send these ahead of time when I sell something and always tell folks to ask before they buy from me so that they know what they are getting.

Leland

**def90** · October 10, 2011, 22:37

Quote:

Originally posted by AEnemaBay

The receiver is absolutely doused is cheap spray paint to the point that it made a few numbers of the serial hard to read.

Aren't there people here that advocate the use of Krylon Grill paint? Hey, it's just as good as the gun stuff and way cheaper..

**rochte** · October 11, 2011, 05:20

So where is this guy located, so that the rest of us can avoid him and/or send hate mail. I tried to search for his user-name and nothing comes up (no post count?).

**rochte** · October 11, 2011, 05:29

Oh never mind - I found him. He's a federal prison guard in TX.

0302 · October 15, 2011, 11:13

aint careful FAL files will stand for fraud and liars files, selling one's reputation & honor for a few hundred $ is truly sad, esp for a fal'er. pray for the thief.

tbugher · October 21, 2011, 08:51

Wow looks as bad as that BGS barrel SPIKIE sold me,what a fraud.

warsteiner_1970 · November 06, 2011, 11:31

I'll never buy from Mr Weeks...

L/FN · November 09, 2011, 00:11

Yes, the FAL work and paint job is crappy and he should make thing right, but 4 things I noticed in your pics:
If the damaged carryhandle is on the kit, I have gotten plenty like it.
The weld on the inch break open lever is arsenal repair and common.
The staking on the selector is normal.
I have had to cut "U" grooves in scope mounts to fit optics.

**AEnemaBay** · November 09, 2011, 06:19

Quote:

Originally posted by L/FN
Yes, the FAL work and paint job is crappy and he should make thing right, but 4 things I noticed in your pics:
If the damaged carryhandle is on the kit, I have gotten plenty like it.
The weld on the inch break open lever is arsenal repair and common.
The staking on the selector is normal.
I have had to cut "U" grooves in scope mounts to fit optics.

1) I understand that these things come broken in kits, what I was upset about is that I wasn't told it was.

2) The picture of the lever was more to show how thick the globbed on paint was, not the weld.

3) Again, the pic wasn't about the staking, but showing the crappy paint.

4) I'm sure a lot of people have had to, but I would hope that if you went to trade/sell that scope mount down the road you'd mention that you had cut a crooked slot in it. It definitely drops its value towards the trade/sale.

**indy_Muaddib** · November 09, 2011, 17:08

at this point id consider reporting your pistol stolen since you got robbed on that deal.

October 06, 2011, 17:10	#1
AEnemaBay Armorer - USMC Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 26507 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jefferson City, MO Posts: 918	DO NOT deal with weeksway1! A week or so ago I entered into a trade deal with weeksway1 (Chris Weeks) for my M&P45 package (http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...postid=3215781). He offered his FAL receiver, kit, two barrels, and misc. extra parts. Even though the receiver was a Century I decided it was fine since I've built a few FAL's on Century's with no problems and the two barrels were the lengths that I've been wanting to play with (16" and a 13"). So we trade, and when I go to pick up the receiver this is what I find: The receiver is absolutely doused is cheap spray paint to the point that it made a few numbers of the serial hard to read. The magazine release and bolt hold open were practically fused to the receiver (he didn't disassemble anything when he sprayed it). On top of that, the rear of the receiver and lug were very poorly filed on. It pretty bad when my FFL, who's the king of trying to pass of turds as diamonds, says "That looks like dog shit." I start thinking to myself, "Alright, I was going to refinish anyway, so as long as the other parts are good to go we'll be fine." Then I get home and find the other package on the table, open it up, and here's what I find: A lot of the parts were either broken or badly messed up with grinds, gouges, or dents all at the same time covered up with that same globed on paint. I go to the barrels to check them out and the 13" barrel is barely holding on to the flash hider by a thread or two and they're metric barrels with Inch gas blocks. On the 16", the gas block actually wobbled side to side and back to front. They also looked like they had been turned down on a grinding wheel: Yeah, that's right, the original gas port is still present in that 13" barrel; wasn't even attempted to be plugged up by anything. When I contacted him about this whole thing he said he was "insulted" that I didn't feel that this "kit" wasn't worth $750 and that because he gave extras I should be happy. At this point I just want my pistol, holster, and Surefire back, but he's no longer responding to my emails. Let this be a warning to all of you who consider dealing with this man. Here are the pics he sent me prior to the trade and his offer: "Here are the pics. The rifle is complete. The only reason I said ill ship it as a kit is cause the upper that's on it in the pic is a short gas setup with 13" barrel and stg flash hider. A fal member cut and threaded the barrel and when i installed it came to 15 3/4 " so I quickly removed it and took to my brothers house. My plans where to remove the flash hider and install one to bring it to legal length. I went a head and purchased the 16 1/4" and standard gas system barrel for the mean time. Ill include both but will not ship them together. If kept with that flash hider it will have to be registered as a sbr. That wasn't my intention so I dismantled it. I wanted to thread the 16" barrel and never got around to it and really don't have the funds to complete it. I have alot of money already into this rifle and hate to let it go. Feel free to ask any questions. Chris " __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Last edited by AEnemaBay; October 06, 2011 at 17:27.

October 06, 2011, 20:37	#4
308/223shooter Airborne Combat Engineer Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 15405 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: pacific northwest Posts: 2,285	Must be related to my neighbor, his last name is the same. Small world 'eh? Sorry you got so bloody buggered. __________________ "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition."A very old song my dad used to sing. If good fences make good neighbors, I need the bloody Berlin Wall. Attornies are like hookers.You sometimes spend lots of cash on them,till you find one who's really good.

October 06, 2011, 21:30	#6
garyd1961 Curio & Relic Contributor Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 39373 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NC Posts: 2,701	I know this doesn't make things any better but I believe they are open ear metric gas blocks. __________________ One nation under God.

October 06, 2011, 21:57	#7
LaConservationist IN DENIAL NOT ADDICTED!! Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 42319 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Louisiana Bayous! Posts: 6,380	I tried my best to NOT comment......BUT what a friken TRAIN WRECK!! There is just NO EXCUSE at all for that crap!! I have thrown away better looking parts!! Hate it for ya my brother!! LaC __________________ In MEMORY of Roger "DUNKRD" Dunkelbarger September 13, 1943 - May 09, 2010 "Any one who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

October 07, 2011, 17:45	#10
4x401 Please Lord true my aim.. Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 31978 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Waiting for the other shoe to drop.. Posts: 3,661	What a piece of CRAP! That is, Weeks AND his poor excuss for a kit. The guy needs an ass woop`in REAL bad. Sorry ya got scalped. __________________ It's almost party time friends....Lock & load....

October 06, 2011, 19:03	#2
RG Coburn Registered FALaholic #: 27406 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10,867	Wow...coulda at least thrown in a jar of vaseline with that screwing...

October 06, 2011, 20:04	#3
Groza9 Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 15326 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 230	Wow. Has he replied at all or been banned? That really is beyond anything I've seen for a while.

October 06, 2011, 21:05	#5
olgier Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 17951 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: maine Posts: 2,681	That's not even close to what he tried to represent it as.

October 07, 2011, 15:28	#9
FUUN063 Computer Illiterate Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 35576 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Converse, Indiana Posts: 4,581	Well, at least the receiver locking lug can be built up and refiled/machined. Good luck with the parts. Sorry. Leland

October 07, 2011, 19:56	#11
RG Coburn Registered FALaholic #: 27406 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10,867	Did that BGS front end come with it? It doesn't look too molested. I am going to definitely take a lesson away with is OP. Always get an inspection period in writing when doing trades like this. That,and REALLY inspect photos before popping on a deal. You can see some of the,ahem,anomolies in those photos,but easy to see why you might have missed them.

October 09, 2011, 20:56	#13
FUUN063 Computer Illiterate Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 35576 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Converse, Indiana Posts: 4,581	And, if you even remotely suspect an area of a kit or such, then ask up front for detailed, up close pics before making the deal. I try to send these ahead of time when I sell something and always tell folks to ask before they buy from me so that they know what they are getting. Leland

October 11, 2011, 05:20	#15
rochte Veteran Member Contributor FALaholic #: 16305 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Grosse Pointe, MI Posts: 1,406	So where is this guy located, so that the rest of us can avoid him and/or send hate mail. I tried to search for his user-name and nothing comes up (no post count?).

October 11, 2011, 05:29	#16
rochte Veteran Member Contributor FALaholic #: 16305 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Grosse Pointe, MI Posts: 1,406	Oh never mind - I found him. He's a federal prison guard in TX. __________________ KC8UCH

October 15, 2011, 11:13	#17
0302 Registered FALaholic #: 348 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 3,687	aint careful FAL files will stand for fraud and liars files, selling one's reputation & honor for a few hundred $ is truly sad, esp for a fal'er. pray for the thief.

October 21, 2011, 08:51	#18
tbugher banned - posting under two different names FALaholic #: 53728 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Las Vegas,Nevada Posts: 96	Wow looks as bad as that BGS barrel SPIKIE sold me,what a fraud.

November 06, 2011, 11:31	#19
warsteiner_1970 Registered FALaholic #: 54189 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 843	I'll never buy from Mr Weeks... __________________ "Tyranny is defined as that which is Legal for the Government but Illegal for the citizenry" Thomas Jefferson

November 09, 2011, 00:11	#20
L/FN Registered FALaholic #: 139 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Kansas. Just Dust in the Wind Posts: 3,335	Yes, the FAL work and paint job is crappy and he should make thing right, but 4 things I noticed in your pics: If the damaged carryhandle is on the kit, I have gotten plenty like it. The weld on the inch break open lever is arsenal repair and common. The staking on the selector is normal. I have had to cut "U" grooves in scope mounts to fit optics. __________________ "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22:36 Times of FALs and no money are better than times of money and no FALs.

November 09, 2011, 17:08	#22
indy_Muaddib Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 17581 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tampa FL Posts: 3,046	at this point id consider reporting your pistol stolen since you got robbed on that deal. __________________ All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him. If it be aristocratic in organization, then it seeks to protect the man who is superior only in law against the man who is superior in fact; if it be democratic, then it seeks to protect the man who is inferior in every way against both. One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible and as dependent upon one another as possible, to search out and combat originality among them. All it can see in an original idea is potential change, and hence an invasion of its prerogatives. The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are. -H.L. Mencken 1919 Were not that lucky.

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