Pakistan Arrests informants

warsteiner_1970 · June 15, 2011, 07:37

It seems Pakistan has started rounding up anyone who helped us out on the Bin Laden raid. Showing their true colors again.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43404265...new_york_times

**martin35** · June 15, 2011, 11:14

Our relations with Pakistan are no longer clouded by wishful thinking.
That leaves a broader more important decision how do we keep the borders with Afghanistan sacrosanct when we do such a miserable job on our own borders.

**dakdak** · June 15, 2011, 11:37

If the Pakistani government is not doing this to cover their own involvement in our raid on OBL (if they ever did help us), then this is a sad development.

If the Pak government is only interested in helping the radical Islamists then our informants are in for a world of hurt before they are murdered. In that scenario the Pak government will try to learn a much as possible about our spy network in the region. This is a classic example of the need for the old policy of "need to know". If we did our homework no one person knows enough to help our enemies. Only a massive roundup followed by torture and promises to arrest, torture and kill families will gain ground for the Pak government. And that ground will be gained only if they can piece together the puzzle that is a spy network before we make changes and exfiltrate any remaining friendlies not yet discovered.

Any way you look at it a bunch of friendlies and their families are toast.

**martin35** · June 15, 2011, 11:46

Pakistanis feel the threat from India is their most immediate danger, to that end sheltering elements of the Taliban and Al Qaeda keeps the USA as a intermediary for the India threat.
Pakis have no love or desire to emulate the USA we are simply a means to a end,,,, and the USA responds accordingly with all the two faced diplomacy at our command. Honor among thieves is the best analogy I can make.

**martin35** · June 15, 2011, 19:36

Ten tears of the War on Terror and so few comments,,, is that for fear of being thought foolish or because we can't be bothered?
This subject goes to the heart of the War on Terror in my mind and should be discussed by every American with a common response as the goal.
Are we going to attempt to build nations or field punitive expeditions in the manner that altered the conduct of the Barbary Coast pirates. I favour the latter.

TideWater 41009 · June 15, 2011, 20:08

At least that should quiet the conspiracy crackpots who thought the whole incident never happened.

**LaConservationist** · June 17, 2011, 06:54

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Sailor553 · June 17, 2011, 07:57

Quote:

Are we going to attempt to build nations or field punitive expeditions in the manner that altered the conduct of the Barbary Coast pirates. I favour the latter.

Then why the disdain for Pres Obama? He is doing exactly what he said he would do with regard to Ashcanistan and Pakistan - killing OBL, Talibanners and others that offer support to Al Queda.

FWIW: The Marines have been wacking the Taliban by the hundreds since they arrived two years ago. If you, others here and the Congress want to reduce US Forces in Ashcanistan, suggest sending the Army home and keep cycling the Marines there and that would include every MOS. Simply put, the Army and its bloated career seeking dipshits are in the way of getting the job done.

juanni · June 17, 2011, 19:06

Maybe they are questioning them about their CIA "income".

..............juanni

**Thorack** · June 17, 2011, 21:59

Squid 553,

Eat shit and die, coward.

Thorack
US Army Soldier

John Culver · June 18, 2011, 14:34

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43451438

and more Paki support of terror.

I have several friends in India (Mumbai) all of which have said in no uncertain terms that Obama is a flaming idiot for supporting Pakistan, all the while completely brushing off, ignoring, or in some cases, rejecting India.

We give billions each year to a country that is itself a terrorist yet refuse to acknowledge India, a huge market for US goods, and a country that in general does not support terror.

Oh thats right, we have to support Communist China, which hates India, and likes Pakistan, now it all makes sense.

June 15, 2011, 07:37	#1
warsteiner_1970 Registered FALaholic #: 54189 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 843	Pakistan Arrests informants It seems Pakistan has started rounding up anyone who helped us out on the Bin Laden raid. Showing their true colors again. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43404265...new_york_times __________________ "Tyranny is defined as that which is Legal for the Government but Illegal for the citizenry" Thomas Jefferson

June 15, 2011, 11:37	#3
dakdak Senior Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 13083 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: U.S. East Coast Posts: 622	SAD... If the Pakistani government is not doing this to cover their own involvement in our raid on OBL (if they ever did help us), then this is a sad development. If the Pak government is only interested in helping the radical Islamists then our informants are in for a world of hurt before they are murdered. In that scenario the Pak government will try to learn a much as possible about our spy network in the region. This is a classic example of the need for the old policy of "need to know". If we did our homework no one person knows enough to help our enemies. Only a massive roundup followed by torture and promises to arrest, torture and kill families will gain ground for the Pak government. And that ground will be gained only if they can piece together the puzzle that is a spy network before we make changes and exfiltrate any remaining friendlies not yet discovered. Any way you look at it a bunch of friendlies and their families are toast.

June 17, 2011, 06:54	#7
LaConservationist IN DENIAL NOT ADDICTED!! Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 42319 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Louisiana Bayous! Posts: 6,376	warsteiner_1970, YOUR message box is full! Please pm me or contact asap..... THANKS! LaC __________________ In MEMORY of Roger "DUNKRD" Dunkelbarger September 13, 1943 - May 09, 2010 "Any one who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

June 17, 2011, 19:06	#9
juanni Registered FALaholic #: 2439 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: up a creek in MT Posts: 8,172	Maybe they are questioning them about their CIA "income". ..............juanni __________________ Originally posted by VonFireball on 10/26/2012 Actually you, Jason B, and Herr Goebbels are pretty much the only communists on this board.

June 17, 2011, 21:59	#10
Thorack Acquisition Corp Dude Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 748 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 5,605	Squid 553, Eat shit and die, coward. Thorack US Army Soldier __________________ 1. Whenever you are talking to a woman realize this person was born insane and you will never be surprised. 2. Never let Doctors cut on you unless its life or death and ALWAYS get a second opinion.

June 15, 2011, 11:14	#2
martin35 when legend becomes fact Contributor Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2939 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 16,829	Our relations with Pakistan are no longer clouded by wishful thinking. That leaves a broader more important decision how do we keep the borders with Afghanistan sacrosanct when we do such a miserable job on our own borders.

June 15, 2011, 11:46	#4
martin35 when legend becomes fact Contributor Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2939 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 16,829	Pakistanis feel the threat from India is their most immediate danger, to that end sheltering elements of the Taliban and Al Qaeda keeps the USA as a intermediary for the India threat. Pakis have no love or desire to emulate the USA we are simply a means to a end,,,, and the USA responds accordingly with all the two faced diplomacy at our command. Honor among thieves is the best analogy I can make.

June 15, 2011, 19:36	#5
martin35 when legend becomes fact Contributor Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2939 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 16,829	Ten tears of the War on Terror and so few comments,,, is that for fear of being thought foolish or because we can't be bothered? This subject goes to the heart of the War on Terror in my mind and should be discussed by every American with a common response as the goal. Are we going to attempt to build nations or field punitive expeditions in the manner that altered the conduct of the Barbary Coast pirates. I favour the latter.

June 15, 2011, 20:08	#6
TideWater 41009 Registered FALaholic #: 1789 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 1,364	At least that should quiet the conspiracy crackpots who thought the whole incident never happened.

June 18, 2011, 14:34	#11
John Culver Registered FALaholic #: 6035 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Klamath Falls, OR Posts: 8,619	http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43451438 and more Paki support of terror. I have several friends in India (Mumbai) all of which have said in no uncertain terms that Obama is a flaming idiot for supporting Pakistan, all the while completely brushing off, ignoring, or in some cases, rejecting India. We give billions each year to a country that is itself a terrorist yet refuse to acknowledge India, a huge market for US goods, and a country that in general does not support terror. Oh thats right, we have to support Communist China, which hates India, and likes Pakistan, now it all makes sense. __________________ The speculative line of demarcation, where obedience ought to end and resistance must begin, is faint, obscure, and not easily definable. --Burke. ---------------------- The CPU Shack - CPU History and Microprocessor Collection.

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