A Typical Discussion About Ron Paul

Mason · May 24, 2011, 10:27

Pistolwiz · May 24, 2011, 10:50

Thanks Mason! Great little video! Your a good young man. Many young people are seeing the light.

I'd bet your an Oath Keeper and 3 percenter?

d_s · May 24, 2011, 22:51

Good video, I think at the end of the day, Ron Paul doesn't get serious consideration because most folks don't want to give up using the government as a weapon to control and or push their social agendas onto others, i.e. anti abortion, gun control, etc...

KEMOSABE · May 24, 2011, 23:54

Did the Ron Paul campaign put that out?

DABTL · May 25, 2011, 04:01

Quote:

Originally posted by d_s
Good video, I think at the end of the day, Ron Paul doesn't get serious consideration because most folks don't want to give up using the government as a weapon to control and or push their social agendas onto others, i.e. anti abortion, gun control, etc...

Outlawing heroin seems to be missing from your list of nanny state nonsense.

JasonB · May 25, 2011, 04:33

Quote:

Originally posted by d_s
Good video, I think at the end of the day, Ron Paul doesn't get serious consideration because most folks don't want to give up using the government as a weapon to control and or push their social agendas onto others,..., gun control, etc...

A lot of the members here adored the Bush's due to the (R) and their attacks on the FAL. Doesn't make sense, but it happens.

**martin35** · May 25, 2011, 05:25

Ron Paul has been for most of the positions he is credited with in the cartoon for over 30 years, now at the sunset of his life we should all start to listen to his simplistic critique of what our common problem is.
Obama came to power because of his perceived ability to achieve a golden agenda.
Ron Paul has a "Golden" agenda also that he has proposed for 24 years in Congress and for many years before.
Ron Paul has no chance in hell of "saving" anyone without a super majority,,, the Tea Party is a strong influence for Conservative thought but not the overpowering force as yet,,, as with all political parties the TP has it's charlatan's out for power.
I have voted for Paul as my Congressman but never for my President in the many times he has run, I will only vote for him if he is the only Conservative with a chance to unseat Obama,,, not likely in my opinion.
He is the Don Quixote of our time who cannot defeat diverse political reality.

juanni · May 25, 2011, 07:53

Quote:

Originally posted by martin35
Ron Paul has been for most of the positions he is credited with in the cartoon for over 30 years, now at the sunset of his life we should all start to listen to his simplistic critique of what our common problem is.
Obama came to power because of his perceived ability to achieve a golden agenda.
Ron Paul has a "Golden" agenda also that he has proposed for 24 years in Congress and for many years before.
Ron Paul has no chance in hell of "saving" anyone without a super majority,,, the Tea Party is a strong influence for Conservative thought but not the overpowering force as yet,,, as with all political parties the TP has it's charlatan's out for power.
I have voted for Paul as my Congressman but never for my President in the many times he has run, I will only vote for him if he is the only Conservative with a chance to unseat Obama,,, not likely in my opinion.
He is the Don Quixote of our time who cannot defeat diverse political reality.

Problem is, Paul is the only conservative. The rest are demos wrapped it a conservative robe.

McSame is virtually lock step with Obama on TARP, the FED, welfare for bankers, Spending, Taxes and Warmongering.

Pretending to vote conservative is NOT the same as voting conservative.

...............juanni

D P Six · May 25, 2011, 08:53

If only we had a younger version of McCain, or the Bushes, Bob Dole, or even God willing the Anointed R Reagan...everthing would be OK. Wait! Isn't Rudy Giuliani thinking about another run?

JasonB · May 25, 2011, 09:09

Quote:

Originally posted by juanni

Problem is, Paul is the only conservative. The rest are demos wrapped it a conservative robe.

McSame is virtually lock step with Obama on TARP, the FED, welfare for bankers, Spending, Taxes and Warmongering.

Pretending to vote conservative is NOT the same as voting conservative.

...............juanni

Paul is a libertarian.

McCain is a conservative and Obama is a liberal, not that there is any major difference between the 2 ideologies because they came from a common background. Enjoy the read:

mises.org/books/betrayal.pdf

Pistolwiz · May 25, 2011, 09:19

What really is amazing to me is that a great many that attack Ron Paul have openly admitted that they haven't even read the entire constitution or studied it. Excpet maybe once in 8th grade! Like it's so complicated. It's not. I have also heard many say they don't care about the constitution. These same folks decry the "dumbing down" of our country when they are part and parcel of the problem themselves!

The constitution is the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. It's not suggestions, rules, regulations or a frcking handbook.

It's the law of the land that has until recently kept our sorry asses free!

I hear so many say they "follow the law". Support "the law". Are "law abiding" etc.... But on the same hypocritical hand..... They have no idea what the constitution is and how it is suppose to work.

Politicians rape it. Then blame it for our problems saying it's "Out of date." And so many just stand by and nod their little ditto heads because they refuse to think for themselves and learn the damn thing!

No wonder our mainstream politicians can lie through both sides of their mouths and their asses at the same time and so many just believe them.... They have not the slightest idea.....

**Cava3r4** · May 28, 2011, 17:08

Quote:

Paul is a libertarian. McCain is a conservative and Obama is a liberal, not that there is any major difference between the 2 ideologies because they came from a common background. Enjoy the read: mises.org/books/betrayal.pdf

McCain is a conservative???? (you said above). YOu are just pulling my leg I hope.
He is FOR all the phoney free trade, FOR unconditional AMNESTY WITH BENEFITS for the ILLEGALS (but he DOES NOT want our soldiers / veterans to have even their COMBAT injuries taken care of), He is FOR abortion as a means of birth control, He and his family are FOR homosexual marriage,
He is FOR Islam as he continues to FUND our wonderful friends and allies the SAudies, Jordanians, Egyptians, Muslim brotherhood, etc.

Conservative???
Man, what are you smokin?

braindrink · May 28, 2011, 19:22

Quote:

Originally posted by Cava3r4
He is FOR abortion as a means of birth control, He and his family are FOR homosexual marriage,

People say Ron Paul is good for proposing re-legalizing drugs. Yet, at the same time, abortion is bad? Don't be a hypocrite. Don't tell people what to do with their bodies. The freedom of choice is a basic human right.

And, gay marriage? For people who preach the Constitution and the Declaration, you must not know what it means. The preamble states promoting the general welfare and securing the blessing of liberty. Isn't marriage a liberty? Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 also prevents federal agencies to discriminate. And, finally, the Declaration says all men are created equal, and are endowed the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness by their Creator. It's illegal to discriminate, and liberty and welfare are ensure by our founding documents. Don't gays fall under this?

Quote:

Originally posted by juanni
McSame is virtually lock step with Obama on TARP, the FED, welfare for bankers, Spending, Taxes and Warmongering.

TARP was a Bush thing, if you don't remember...
Welfare for bankers? Again, Bush.
Spending? Bush, every Cold War president.
Taxes? Gotta make money to pay off that cold war/middle east war debt.
Warmongering? And Iraq/Afghanistan isn't warmongering? George Bush is a hero, Obama is a warmonger. We're loosing ground here...

JasonB · May 28, 2011, 19:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Cava3r4

McCain is a conservative???? (you said above). YOu are just pulling my leg I hope.
He is FOR all the phoney free trade, FOR unconditional AMNESTY WITH BENEFITS for the ILLEGALS (but he DOES NOT want our soldiers / veterans to have even their COMBAT injuries taken care of), He is FOR abortion as a means of birth control, He and his family are FOR homosexual marriage,
He is FOR Islam as he continues to FUND our wonderful friends and allies the SAudies, Jordanians, Egyptians, Muslim brotherhood, etc.

Conservative???
Man, what are you smokin?

Yup, conservative. I am not the one who has been pulling your leg as to what a conservative is and is not. Read the book.

juanni · May 29, 2011, 00:37

Quote:

Originally posted by braindrink

TARP was a Bush thing, if you don't remember...
Welfare for bankers? Again, Bush.
Spending? Bush, every Cold War president.
Taxes? Gotta make money to pay off that cold war/middle east war debt.
Warmongering? And Iraq/Afghanistan isn't warmongering? George Bush is a hero, Obama is a warmonger. We're loosing ground here...

I must have lost you.... Bush proposed and signed TARP. McCain and Obama voted for it. Welfare for bankers Bush, Obama and McCain all supported it. Obama still does.

Bush and Obama both spend like drunken sailors, McCain never has been a spending slasher.

Bush was a warmonger, Obama has carried on the tradition and McCain never saw a conflict we shouldn't get involved in.

Three peas in a pod BushObamaMcCain, Paul voted against all of that.

................juanni

**DakTo** · May 29, 2011, 07:33

Quote:

Originally posted by martin35
Ron Paul has been for most of the positions he is credited with in the cartoon for over 30 years, now at the sunset of his life we should all start to listen to his simplistic critique of what our common problem is.
Obama came to power because of his perceived ability to achieve a golden agenda.
Ron Paul has a "Golden" agenda also that he has proposed for 24 years in Congress and for many years before.
Ron Paul has no chance in hell of "saving" anyone without a super majority,,, the Tea Party is a strong influence for Conservative thought but not the overpowering force as yet,,, as with all political parties the TP has it's charlatan's out for power.
I have voted for Paul as my Congressman but never for my President in the many times he has run, I will only vote for him if he is the only Conservative with a chance to unseat Obama,,, not likely in my opinion.
He is the Don Quixote of our time who cannot defeat diverse political reality.

I must agree with your assessment as Dr Ron Paul is most likely a very good man but as president will never be able to forward most of his agenda with both houses of congress.
What many in the congress propose is not necessarily on constitutional grounds and Paul will end up having more cases either overloading the Supreme Court of being rejected by the Court.

I do think he is now filling a void in the public's view of reminding the voters that our Constitution is alive and well and perhaps help promote those politicians to include it in their platforms and to uphold it.

DABTL · May 29, 2011, 18:24

Quote:

Originally posted by DakTo

I do think he is now filling a void in the public's view of reminding the voters that our Constitution is alive and well and perhaps help promote those politicians to include it in their platforms and to uphold it.

Really? What portions are being ignored?

JasonB · May 29, 2011, 20:15

Quote:

Originally posted by DakTo

Dr Ron Paul is most likely a very good man and because of that he does not appeal to me or other conservative voters.

Edited for brevity.

May 24, 2011, 10:27	#1
Mason Registered FALaholic #: 18674 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 2,073	A Typical Discussion About Ron Paul __________________ "The only honorable response to violence is counter-violence." To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth, Jeff Cooper

May 24, 2011, 10:50	#2
Pistolwiz Registered FALaholic #: 4378 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: WA Posts: 5,341	Thanks Mason! Great little video! Your a good young man. Many young people are seeing the light. I'd bet your an Oath Keeper and 3 percenter? __________________ "The constitution is not a bunch of suggestions. It's the law." "People will chew and swallow an entire sweet and delicious brick of lies. And enjoy it. Rather than taste one bitter grain of truth. No wonder they are hoodwinked so easily." "I don't run with lemmings...even well armed ones." "If we had as many misconceptions about the FN FAL as we do about the constitution. The body count from accidents would be much, much higher around here."

May 24, 2011, 23:54	#4
KEMOSABE Registered FALaholic #: 10937 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ok Posts: 1,715	Did the Ron Paul campaign put that out? __________________ The bombing starts in five minutes. Ronald Reagan

May 25, 2011, 09:19	#11
Pistolwiz Registered FALaholic #: 4378 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: WA Posts: 5,341	What really is amazing to me is that a great many that attack Ron Paul have openly admitted that they haven't even read the entire constitution or studied it. Excpet maybe once in 8th grade! Like it's so complicated. It's not. I have also heard many say they don't care about the constitution. These same folks decry the "dumbing down" of our country when they are part and parcel of the problem themselves! The constitution is the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. It's not suggestions, rules, regulations or a frcking handbook. It's the law of the land that has until recently kept our sorry asses free! I hear so many say they "follow the law". Support "the law". Are "law abiding" etc.... But on the same hypocritical hand..... They have no idea what the constitution is and how it is suppose to work. Politicians rape it. Then blame it for our problems saying it's "Out of date." And so many just stand by and nod their little ditto heads because they refuse to think for themselves and learn the damn thing! No wonder our mainstream politicians can lie through both sides of their mouths and their asses at the same time and so many just believe them.... They have not the slightest idea..... __________________ "The constitution is not a bunch of suggestions. It's the law." "People will chew and swallow an entire sweet and delicious brick of lies. And enjoy it. Rather than taste one bitter grain of truth. No wonder they are hoodwinked so easily." "I don't run with lemmings...even well armed ones." "If we had as many misconceptions about the FN FAL as we do about the constitution. The body count from accidents would be much, much higher around here."

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May 24, 2011, 22:51	#3
d_s Registered FALaholic #: 5575 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 707	Good video, I think at the end of the day, Ron Paul doesn't get serious consideration because most folks don't want to give up using the government as a weapon to control and or push their social agendas onto others, i.e. anti abortion, gun control, etc...

May 25, 2011, 05:25	#7
martin35 when legend becomes fact Contributor Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2939 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 16,871	Ron Paul has been for most of the positions he is credited with in the cartoon for over 30 years, now at the sunset of his life we should all start to listen to his simplistic critique of what our common problem is. Obama came to power because of his perceived ability to achieve a golden agenda. Ron Paul has a "Golden" agenda also that he has proposed for 24 years in Congress and for many years before. Ron Paul has no chance in hell of "saving" anyone without a super majority,,, the Tea Party is a strong influence for Conservative thought but not the overpowering force as yet,,, as with all political parties the TP has it's charlatan's out for power. I have voted for Paul as my Congressman but never for my President in the many times he has run, I will only vote for him if he is the only Conservative with a chance to unseat Obama,,, not likely in my opinion. He is the Don Quixote of our time who cannot defeat diverse political reality.

May 25, 2011, 08:53	#9
D P Six Registered FALaholic #: 15219 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,097	If only we had a younger version of McCain, or the Bushes, Bob Dole, or even God willing the Anointed R Reagan...everthing would be OK. Wait! Isn't Rudy Giuliani thinking about another run?