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Old April 25, 2011, 18:38   #1
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Thumbs up Ron Paul is IN!

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He's got my vote.
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Old April 25, 2011, 19:42   #4
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Before everyone gets wet over Ron Paul, let me just float a name here, I think he brings a little more to the table than Paul, and deserves a look and some consideration, that name is Lyndon LaRouche. I know he has gotten off to a shaky start in the past, but now he knows that jail sucks, so I think he's back on track, and poised for victory. Can I count on your support?
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Before everyone gets wet over Ron Paul, let me just float a name here, I think he brings a little more to the table than Paul, and deserves a look and some consideration, that name is Lyndon LaRouche. I know he has gotten off to a shaky start in the past, but now he knows that jail sucks, so I think he's back on track, and poised for victory. Can I count on your support?


Why not put your support behind Dan Rostenkowski?

Ex Jailbird and dead. Than should make him doubly appealing.




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Old April 25, 2011, 19:52   #6
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Kemosabe -

So you're voting for Trump? Huckabee? Obama? McSame? Mitt Romney?
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Before everyone gets wet over Ron Paul, let me just float a name here, I think he brings a little more to the table than Paul, and deserves a look and some consideration, that name is Lyndon LaRouche. I know he has gotten off to a shaky start in the past, but now he knows that jail sucks, so I think he's back on track, and poised for victory. Can I count on your support?
So you think Ron Paul is a socialist. That has to be it considering you are comparing him to LaRouche. Utterly fascinating.
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Still 2 years away.........who knows who will run, who knows who will be around in 2012.
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Ron Paul is the antithesis of Obongo, he would turn things around a complete 180'.

RUN RON RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old April 25, 2011, 21:23   #11
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Still 2 years away.........who knows who will run, who knows who will be around in 2012.
So far Gingrich is very close in detail to Bush/McCain/Dole and so on. If not him by name it will be someone similar. Republican voters wouldn't have anything else.
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Old April 25, 2011, 21:41   #12
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RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's got my vote. Whether or not he's actually got has a chance I don't care. I'm tired of voting for the lesser evil.
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Old April 25, 2011, 22:03   #13
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RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's got my vote. Whether or not he's actually got has a chance I don't care. I'm tired of voting for the lesser evil.
Right on Brother, Right on.
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Having to be informed about a candidate and make a intelligent decision is becoming a intolerable chore for a large percentage of voters.
If Obama saves the world and brings back 17 cent a gallon gas I'll hold my nose and vote for him, it's my duty to call the next President names anyway,,, a record of achievement and past service are big with most voters.
Pay my bills, fill my tank, school and babysit my kids, let me get a little high without landing in jail and save me from Arabs are all going to be asked for and falsely promised done.
I probably won't stand on the bald prairie in the sun and 104 heat for 2 i/2 hours to hear people complain again this year.I just know I'll vote in Nov. 2012 if I'm still around.
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Come on man! It dont matter who you vote for isnt the world suppose dot end on Dec. 21st 2012?

That means we are stuck with the "O" man until the end!!!!
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the next president must be a leader. why have we not heard more of ron paul's name in the last two years. where has he been hiding?

give me 3 examples of ron paul's leadership where he was able to rally support around his position. ron paul is a good solider but absent as a general. perhaps his son some day but ron paul will always be a protest vote. obama must be stopped.
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hmmmmm, what about a Paul/Palin ticket?

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So you're voting for Trump? Huckabee? Obama? McSame? Mitt Romney?
The sad fact is, it does not matter who I, you, or anyone votes for. The problems facing us will not be fixed by any President. Politics is like sports and show business, there is too much money in it. Obama has done tremendous damage, but he could not have done it alone, he had the help of 50 or 60 senators and 2-300 congressmen. Why?

The two biggest changes that could help us more than whomever is President, would be term limits and outlawing lobbyists.
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Our form of government requires a certain minimum standard of voter and citizen. That is why it won't work in the undeveloped countries and never will.

Three reasons why our economy won't get fixed right away.

1. Our voter has been dumbed down, and the entitlement crowd has been breeding faster than the working class.

2. The media controls the voter and the media will massacre anyone who speaks the truth about what ails this country.

3. Americans don't want to hear reality. They don't want to tighten their belts and live within their means. The candidate who promises a return to prosperity without sacrifice will win every time.
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the next president must be a leader. why have we not heard more of ron paul's name in the last two years. where has he been hiding?

give me 3 examples of ron paul's leadership where he was able to rally support around his position. ron paul is a good solider but absent as a general. perhaps his son some day but ron paul will always be a protest vote. obama must be stopped.
Agreed, watching his clip here >>http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=309472

Yaking with the hormonal bitches, he seems quite wishy washy. I would prefer a leader that carries around an attitude like a giant sword, slashing the opositions heads off.
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Agreed, watching his clip here >>http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=309472

Yaking with the hormonal bitches, he seems quite wishy washy. I would prefer a leader that carries around an attitude like a giant sword, slashing the opositions heads off.
I'm sure we can find a muslim for you to vote for.
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First Trump and now Ron Paul enliven the Republican race.

Either one would be a disaster. For Republicans, I mean.
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Trump yes, a disaster.

Paul no.

Ron Paul could handily defeat the failure-in-chief if his party supports him.

The way I'm reading the weather most likely it'll be Huckleberry that ends up with the Republican nomination and then the Presidency.
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the next president must be a leader. why have we not heard more of ron paul's name in the last two years. where has he been hiding?

give me 3 examples of ron paul's leadership where he was able to rally support around his position. ron paul is a good solider but absent as a general. perhaps his son some day but ron paul will always be a protest vote. obama must be stopped.
Ron Paul can not rally the corrupt unconstitutional voting politicians around his honest constitutional positions anymore than one could rally a bunch of syphilitic whores into abstention.

That is the problem, and why the president we need BYPASSES the corruption and leadership of the party machine and appeal directly to the voters.
And once elected opposes the party hacks and lobbyists you are so endeared with.

Electing yet another backslapping, corrupt, lobbyist pre-purchased, party hack isn't the solution to any of our problems.
Lord when will you EVER wake up out of your pro-party stupor.



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Jokker does not believe in voting on someone based purely on their voting record and character... They just need to talk pretty and invoke moral values when it's convenient.

P.S. Huckabee is a Theocrat. He has endorsed the idea of putting God in the constitution...
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Ron Paul studied for the ministry but opted for an honest job instead.
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Sorry boys, there isn't a single person mentioned in this thread that can beat Obomba. Most of them lost to him last time. Obomba ran a smarter race, he beat them at their own game, he used the internet, facebook, twitter, etc. to raise money and get out the vote. Compare that to Rudy and Fred Thompson, who were big favorites, hell, they didn't even make it out of the chute.

You better size up the enemy before you chose your man. The media has successfully painted Paul as a whacko, the same way they painted Quayle as stupid, ditto for Palin. Huck is a religious extremist, Romney is nothing more than a pretty boy, Gingrich has way too much baggage, I'm even starting to wonder if my man LaRouche has a chance, even though he was completely innocent and didn't get a fair trial, it's just hard to make a few years at the big house look good on a resume.

The goal is to beat Obama, not to split hairs over who is the most constitutional or the biggest gun lover. Ron Paul is a good man, but he will not get the nod, so move on, get behind the man that can actually beat Obama. Stop thinking like dinosaurs, the majority of the electorate isn't aware we have a constitution, they don't like guns, they think China is the place where all the affordable things are made, and when is the next iphone coming out.

That brings us to Trump, he is a celebrity, and he has plenty of hot chixx, that appeals to the majority. He talks tough on China, and the unions, and America first, which sounds good to us. But can he walk the walk? Is he a spoiler like Perrot? We'll see, but I think he needs to decide if he wants to be Pres, because sometimes you get what you want.
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The goal is to beat Obama, not to split hairs over who is the most constitutional or the biggest gun lover. Ron Paul is a good man, but he will not get the nod, so move on, get behind the man that can actually beat Obama. Stop thinking like dinosaurs, the majority of the electorate isn't aware we have a constitution, they don't like guns, they think China is the place where all the affordable things are made, and when is the next iphone coming out.

That brings us to Trump, he is a celebrity, and he has plenty of hot chixx, that appeals to the majority. He talks tough on China, and the unions, and America first, which sounds good to us. But can he walk the walk? Is he a spoiler like Perrot? We'll see, but I think he needs to decide if he wants to be Pres, because sometimes you get what you want.
So you want someone that is anti-gun and anti-constitution in general so long as they have a little (R) after their name? So exactly what is it you are hoping to win if you want to lose everything in the process?
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obama ran (past tense) a good campaign.
After two years of alienating his constituents the only way he can win a second term is if the Republicans run a clown.

Trump fills the bill.
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obama ran (past tense) a good campaign.
After two years of alienating his constituents the only way he can win a second term is if the Republicans run a clown.

Trump fills the bill.
That's what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if you think he's a clown, if I think he's a clown, or if he is a clown. Obama won didn't he? Don't get hung up on what is or what isn't.

The only qualifying thing to consider is can he win? If he can't, move on to the next one.
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That's what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if you think he's a clown, if I think he's a clown, or if he is a clown. Obama won didn't he? Don't get hung up on what is or what isn't.

The only qualifying thing to consider is can he win? If he can't, move on to the next one.
And what exactly do we win electing such a loser?



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Trump is anti-gun... Are you really sure supporting him is wise?

Last I checked, the FAL is still an Evil Black Rifle.
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Ron Paul has all the right positions that could lead this country out of the hole it's in.

Reduce the size of the fedgov
Stop meddling in the affairs of others, get out of the bullshit wars we're in
End the war on drugs
Stop printing money and fix it's value
End unsustainable entitlement programs
Stop throwing money at 3rd world countries that hate our guts
Protect our constitutional rights from gov't infringement

Plus, Trump's an anti-gun stooge.
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Trump is anti-gun... Are you really sure supporting him is wise?

Last I checked, the FAL is still an Evil Black Rifle.
I'm not saying he is the best candidate. I'm saying he has the potential to be the winning candidate.
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Maybe him and Ralph Nader could hook up. The eternal candidates.
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That's what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if you think he's a clown, if I think he's a clown, or if he is a clown. Obama won didn't he? Don't get hung up on what is or what isn't.

The only qualifying thing to consider is can he win? If he can't, move on to the next one.
No, the only thing worth considering is not if he can win.
The only thing actually worth considering is what we get if he wins.
This nation is at critical mass.
We need someone who knows the issues and can fix them and that isn't Trump.
We don't need another poseur like obama for a leader.

Besides that......
I don't think he can win.
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That is the difference, your idea of winning is to get "your" candidate into the White House regardless of principles, integrity, beholden to powerful interest, what he will or wont do, or even try to do for the country.

My idea is not to get anymore of those types into the White House.



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Ron Paul is 75 right now. He would be 77 if he were elected in November '12. Reagan was 77 when his second term ended in '88.

Sorry, but I don't want to see a president with an official diaper changer and drool wiper.

Go ahead and vote for Ron Paul. We can stand another 4 years of Obama. Let's see what he can do in the next six that he hasn't done in the past two.

I love the "I can't vote for the lesser evil" line, because it worked so well the last time.
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No, the only thing worth considering is not if he can win.
The only thing actually worth considering is what we get if he wins.
Consider what we get if we pick a candidate that loses. We will find out what critical mass is.
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That is the difference, your idea of winning is to get "your" candidate into the White House regardless of principles, integrity, beholden to powerful interest, what he will or wont do, or even try to do for the country.

My idea is not to get anymore of those types into the White House.



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That's kinda what I'm saying, even though I'm throwing up in my mouth a little as I say it. I just don't want us to go down the toilet while we wait for someone to run who is worthy of canonization.
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Ron Paul has all the right positions that could lead this country out of the hole it's in.

Reduce the size of the fedgov
Stop meddling in the affairs of others, get out of the bullshit wars we're in
End the war on drugs
Stop printing money and fix it's value
End unsustainable entitlement programs
Stop throwing money at 3rd world countries that hate our guts
Protect our constitutional rights from gov't infringement

Plus, Trump's an anti-gun stooge.
All of that sounds great, but it is meaningless if your man comes in 2nd place. 52% of the people voted for "that one," and that was running against McCain, who is not a conservative. None of the things in your list mean a damn thing to those 52%.
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I am not supporting Trump, I think right now, he is the only one that can beat Obama. I will support whomever runs against Obama, I don't care who it is. I may have to hold my nose when I vote, but the country will not stand much more of what we have right now. Get over having a love fest with the ideal candidate.

WE NEED SOMEONE THAT CAN WIN, so we can stop the hemorrhaging, we can fix the little things later.
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I WILL SUPPORT ANYONE THAT IS NOT A DEMOCRAT... VOTING RECORD OR VALUES ASIDE.

Voting for the lesser of the two evils still gets you evil. Think about it.
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I assume you think Bush was somehow better than Obama...
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That's kinda what I'm saying, even though I'm throwing up in my mouth a little as I say it. I just don't want us to go down the toilet while we wait for someone to run who is worthy of canonization.
But that is precisely why we are going down the toilet.
Most here keep voting for the lesser of two candidates that BOTH will flush us down the toilet so even if we "win" we will still be going down the toilet.

So, is it the speed of the flush you object to or would you just rather see a republican that you voted for be the last face you see on our final swirl about the bowl?



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So, is it the speed of the flush you object to or would you just rather see a republican that you voted for be the last face you see on our final swirl about the bowl?



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OK, that was suitable for framing.

What is it about Trump that you find objectionable? Or is it just my argument that I'm willing to overlook some flaws to get a winner? I have not heard of any scandals. I know he has a less than stellar image, but I wonder if that's a bad rap?
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