Wolf primers are a pita

erhauser · February 12, 2011, 18:15

Loaded a few hundred 45 ACP with Wolf primers. First experience with them since I purchased a few years ago.

Some feel loose, some go in hard, some don't seat fully even with multiple tries with seater.*

I was wondering if I was just crazy. I then seated some of same brass, on same press with Winchester Large Pistol. Went in smooth as butter as per usual.

I will see if this ammo works OK. If it doesn't I will at least get some practice in clearing malfunctions.

My bottom line: I have vowed not to get caught without good Winchester or CCI primers in the future!

*Brass: 5X very mixed headspace. Reloader: Dillon progressive. Not a problem with crud in machine or primer pockets.

DYNOMIKE · February 13, 2011, 07:30

A bud and I picked up some WOLF SR primers last year to try out.. Since then we have prolly run through about 4K and not had a single problem. In fact we liked them enough to take advantage of a sale MIDWAY (I think MIDWAY) had going on last week and bought a bunch more. He delivered mine yesterday so I'll prolly get into those and save all the FED and REM I have in stock for later..

As far as the LP there has been some discussion about those and in fact the same/similar problem as yours was encountered while loading .45 ACP.
Not sure what is causing this, is it a prob with the size of the prmer or a is it the variance from brand to brand with the brass?

In this bunch of primers I just got there is 1K of the LP I bought just to try out.
Don't need any .45 ACP loaded right now but mebe I'll try some in .44 Mag and see what happens?

**Shootability** · February 13, 2011, 08:21

I did not have a size issue but found them (LPP) to be very hard and would not ignite reliably with a stock G21. The work in a Ruger Redhawk and other hammer fired guns.

With Wolf SPP I had a few duds in 10k, but with SPM I had no issues at all.

When I have a choice I get Fed then CCI then Rem - Win are above Wolf.

EricCartmanR1 · February 13, 2011, 10:57

To me the Wolf Small Rifle 223, and Wolf Large Rifle is as good as anything out there.

**XMAN** · February 13, 2011, 12:31

The large rifle primers work great in all my curio and relics.

The small pistol have always went bang in my Model 22 , but the same ammo in my friends Taurus failed to fire on the first strike around 5 % of the time.

7.62srbest · February 13, 2011, 14:34

I had similar experience with CCI large pistol primers last year. I had a terrible time seating them and got to thinking it was the brass, then the Lee priming tool and then I grabbed some Winchester large pistol primers and they went in smooth as normal.

Just some manufacturing issues I guess. They go bang at least.

Wildcat · February 16, 2011, 17:09

I did the same thing last year too. With the shortage of Winchester primers, I bought some Wolf SR primers to use for practice and save the Winchesters for racing.

I think the primer cups may not be a consistent hardness. I've had a few that were stubborn and one true dud so far in about 2500.
Lot number 14-09.

They were -available- and, at the time, less expensive. They aren't Winchesters.

February 12, 2011, 18:15	#1
erhauser Registered FALaholic #: 15481 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Becker, MN Posts: 243	Wolf primers are a pita Loaded a few hundred 45 ACP with Wolf primers. First experience with them since I purchased a few years ago. Some feel loose, some go in hard, some don't seat fully even with multiple tries with seater.* I was wondering if I was just crazy. I then seated some of same brass, on same press with Winchester Large Pistol. Went in smooth as butter as per usual. I will see if this ammo works OK. If it doesn't I will at least get some practice in clearing malfunctions. My bottom line: I have vowed not to get caught without good Winchester or CCI primers in the future! *Brass: 5X very mixed headspace. Reloader: Dillon progressive. Not a problem with crud in machine or primer pockets. __________________ Ed reluctantly in MN

February 13, 2011, 07:30	#2
DYNOMIKE Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 11982 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 13,975	A bud and I picked up some WOLF SR primers last year to try out.. Since then we have prolly run through about 4K and not had a single problem. In fact we liked them enough to take advantage of a sale MIDWAY (I think MIDWAY) had going on last week and bought a bunch more. He delivered mine yesterday so I'll prolly get into those and save all the FED and REM I have in stock for later.. As far as the LP there has been some discussion about those and in fact the same/similar problem as yours was encountered while loading .45 ACP. Not sure what is causing this, is it a prob with the size of the prmer or a is it the variance from brand to brand with the brass? In this bunch of primers I just got there is 1K of the LP I bought just to try out. Don't need any .45 ACP loaded right now but mebe I'll try some in .44 Mag and see what happens? __________________ "If your Gonna DIE, DIE Standing UP"!! The WOLVERINES.......

February 13, 2011, 12:31	#5
XMAN AZEX's and Mojo's Personal BANNED Troll Contributor FALaholic #: 5539 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: FRONT ROOM KILLING DEMONIC CLOWNS Posts: 248	The large rifle primers work great in all my curio and relics. The small pistol have always went bang in my Model 22 , but the same ammo in my friends Taurus failed to fire on the first strike around 5 % of the time. __________________ Can't sleep, clowns will eat me. Can't sleep, clowns will eat me. Can't sleep, clowns will eat me.

February 16, 2011, 17:09	#7
Wildcat Registered FALaholic #: 6517 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 394	I did the same thing last year too. With the shortage of Winchester primers, I bought some Wolf SR primers to use for practice and save the Winchesters for racing. I think the primer cups may not be a consistent hardness. I've had a few that were stubborn and one true dud so far in about 2500. Lot number 14-09. They were -available- and, at the time, less expensive. They aren't Winchesters. __________________ "A cool man with a rifle, if he has mastered his weapon, need fear no foe." - Theodore Roosevelt

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February 13, 2011, 08:21	#3
Shootability Formerly Solvability Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 6448 Join Date: May 2002 Location: HSV Posts: 2,702	I did not have a size issue but found them (LPP) to be very hard and would not ignite reliably with a stock G21. The work in a Ruger Redhawk and other hammer fired guns. With Wolf SPP I had a few duds in 10k, but with SPM I had no issues at all. When I have a choice I get Fed then CCI then Rem - Win are above Wolf.

February 13, 2011, 10:57	#4
EricCartmanR1 Hobbyist among Operators Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 20092 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 1,560	To me the Wolf Small Rifle 223, and Wolf Large Rifle is as good as anything out there.

February 13, 2011, 14:34	#6
7.62srbest Registered FALaholic #: 19762 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chesterfield, VA Posts: 254	I had similar experience with CCI large pistol primers last year. I had a terrible time seating them and got to thinking it was the brass, then the Lee priming tool and then I grabbed some Winchester large pistol primers and they went in smooth as normal. Just some manufacturing issues I guess. They go bang at least.