How old are these bullets?

jefferyc22 · January 25, 2011, 22:37

I've shot some pretty "old" "oddball" bullets in the last couple years but have never seen/loaded any old Hornady. I have easily loaded 600 rounds of various Speer and Sierra in the last 2 years.......got pretty spoiled picking up boxes of Sierra/Speer .308 bullets for $10 a box

So what you say? 60's? 70's?

Sig220 · January 25, 2011, 23:54

Maybe 60's is my guess..........that is the youngest they would be!!!

ammolab · January 26, 2011, 07:34

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Originally posted by Sig220
Maybe 60's is my guess..........that is the youngest they would be!!!

My bet is older than 1960s... I started reloading in 1960 or 61 and that box would have looked "old" to me then!

jefferyc22 · January 26, 2011, 10:16

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Originally posted by ammolab

My bet is older than 1960s... I started reloading in 1960 or 61 and that box would have looked "old" to me then!

Am I an asshole to load this? I don't suppose there's an bullet museum some where

jefferyc22 · January 26, 2011, 10:53

I just emailed this pic to a Hornady tech guy for an ID. On the phone he said they started with 165 grain 30 cal so this is prob a few years after that. If its towards the begging I will prob leave them be as I'm particularly fond of Hornady bullets.

ammolab · January 26, 2011, 11:40

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Originally posted by jefferyc22
I just emailed this pic to a Hornady tech guy for an ID. On the phone he said they started with 165 grain 30 cal so this is prob a few years after that. If its towards the begging I will prob leave them be as I'm particularly fond of Hornady bullets.

I wonder if he meant 150gr 30cal bullets? I don't recall that weight in any line of .30 cal bullets back when Hornady started (post WW2)..

Seems like the 165gr bullet is missing from loading manuals of that era...

Hmmm????

jefferyc22 · January 26, 2011, 22:56

The fellas at Hornady think '64 from the pic. Said there should be a date stamped into the cardboard on the bottom.

jefferyc22 · January 26, 2011, 23:37

jeager1234567 · January 28, 2011, 17:26

I do not know the age, but it looks like at some point it was for sale at $6.50, judging by the writen price on the bottom.
The price tag on the front read $15.00. Someone turned a nice profit.

jefferyc22 · January 28, 2011, 17:36

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Originally posted by jeager1234567
I do not know the age, but it looks like at some point it was for sale at $6.50, judging by the writen price on the bottom.
The price tag on the front read $15.00. Someone turned a nice profit.

If that was $6.50 in 1964 like Hornady thinks.....reloading wasn't economically viable.

ammolab · January 29, 2011, 19:06

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Originally posted by jefferyc22

If that was $6.50 in 1964 like Hornady thinks.....reloading wasn't economically viable.

"Retail" is listed in the 1972 Handloaders Digest as $6/100rd box for Hornady 180gr .308" bullets.

I bet that price may not be the original asking price as those bullets date further back than the 1970s.

jefferyc22 · January 29, 2011, 19:14

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Originally posted by ammolab

"Retail" is listed in the 1972 Handloaders Digest as $6/100rd box for Hornady 180gr .308" bullets.

I guess I shouldn't whine too much about bullets prices then. That probably equivalent to us spending $50 a box for non match bullets. I assume the machinery to make bullets was pretty exclusive and the market was fixed. Was talking to a fello ammo nut at the gunshow today about S&W/Ficocci getting basically pushed out of the ammo market in the 70's. I take it commercial ammo completely changed for the better in the 80's?

shortround · January 29, 2011, 19:44

Probably about as old as these:

jefferyc22 · January 29, 2011, 19:49

Those old Speer bullets have a much nicer ogive than the old Hornadys. I have got some very nice groups with the old Speers. Those old square ogive Hornadys shoot like shit in my opinion.

gunner30 · January 30, 2011, 07:31

Side note.."S&M gun shop" That's damn funny. "Buy our bullets or you'll get a spanking!"

January 25, 2011, 22:37	#1
jefferyc22 Banned FALaholic #: 18245 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PNW Posts: 3,447	How old are these bullets? I've shot some pretty "old" "oddball" bullets in the last couple years but have never seen/loaded any old Hornady. I have easily loaded 600 rounds of various Speer and Sierra in the last 2 years.......got pretty spoiled picking up boxes of Sierra/Speer .308 bullets for $10 a box So what you say? 60's? 70's?

January 25, 2011, 23:54	#2
Sig220 Registered FALaholic #: 11622 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SE Texas Posts: 4,869	Maybe 60's is my guess..........that is the youngest they would be!!! __________________ Sometimes you are the bug.....sometimes the windshield.

January 29, 2011, 19:44	#13
shortround Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 1503 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Southeast, MI, USA Posts: 2,798	Probably about as old as these: __________________ Nostalgia: It's just not what it used to be. I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. Someone asked if I was a procrastinator and I told them I wasn't sure but I'd get back with them tomorrow.

January 30, 2011, 07:31	#15
gunner30 Registered FALaholic #: 22242 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 2,278	Side note.."S&M gun shop" That's damn funny. "Buy our bullets or you'll get a spanking!" __________________ Lighten up Francis

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January 26, 2011, 10:53	#5
jefferyc22 Banned FALaholic #: 18245 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PNW Posts: 3,447	I just emailed this pic to a Hornady tech guy for an ID. On the phone he said they started with 165 grain 30 cal so this is prob a few years after that. If its towards the begging I will prob leave them be as I'm particularly fond of Hornady bullets.

January 26, 2011, 22:56	#7
jefferyc22 Banned FALaholic #: 18245 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PNW Posts: 3,447	The fellas at Hornady think '64 from the pic. Said there should be a date stamped into the cardboard on the bottom.

January 26, 2011, 23:37	#8
jefferyc22 Banned FALaholic #: 18245 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PNW Posts: 3,447

January 28, 2011, 17:26	#9
jeager1234567 30-day ban ends March 2 FALaholic #: 62645 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Danville, Illinois Posts: 20	I do not know the age, but it looks like at some point it was for sale at $6.50, judging by the writen price on the bottom. The price tag on the front read $15.00. Someone turned a nice profit.

January 29, 2011, 19:49	#14
jefferyc22 Banned FALaholic #: 18245 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PNW Posts: 3,447	Those old Speer bullets have a much nicer ogive than the old Hornadys. I have got some very nice groups with the old Speers. Those old square ogive Hornadys shoot like shit in my opinion.