Best Para Kit?

Ding556 · November 26, 2010, 09:53

I am looking to put together an 18" Para Fal. Realizing that I have to piece it together I think it would best to buy a standard kit and build from there. Looking at the Imbel kits as a start and finish it up with the DSA Para kit. Any suggestions on which kit to pursue? Thanks!

**fal fiend** · November 26, 2010, 10:06

make a good para, i built 1 on a imbel para kit yrs ago.

**Hoot G** · November 26, 2010, 23:54

Sounds expensive. I'd start with the DSA lightweight lower, para carrier, and springs, and buy the rest of the parts in the Marketplace. Parts you need probably can be had for less than the $350 an Imbel kit (generally the cheapest kits you can get) would cost. Individual parts seem expensive, and they are if you buy them one by one, but if you ask, somebody might have all the little goodies you need and make you a decent price.

**fal fiend** · November 27, 2010, 13:14

i'd still buy a kit, u'll need everything but the bolt carrier
& strip lower & butstock.

Ding556 · November 27, 2010, 13:25

I was thinking a kit would give me a few extra parts as well. Not a bad thing. Would a new Argy kit (SARCO) be a smarter choice considering the parts are new?

CTW · November 27, 2010, 13:40

I would not use an Argy just for the cost factor. I would find a nice Imbel kit in the 350 dollar range and go from there. I just ordered the Para kit from DSA and am using a Imbel kit for the base. I sold the lower to help offset the cost of the para kit. I still need to have the barrel cut, recrowned and threaded.

Ding556 · November 28, 2010, 08:13

Thanks for the replies. I found an Imbel kit in the MP right here! Now, to get on the list with DSA for a PARA kit. I am thinking a Type II reciever as well. Thanks!

**fal fiend** · November 28, 2010, 08:16

dsa para lowers are type 1 if that matters to u.

**preston1026** · November 28, 2010, 08:20

DSA para kits are very nice in my opinion..,. I have a DSA and falcon and the DSA fits tighter and has a better finish

Ding556 · November 28, 2010, 09:13

Type I it is! Thanks for the heads up! Tried looking at the Falcon set but their site is down or something. Am leaning towards DSA for the Para kit. Thanks!

Clint50 · November 30, 2010, 14:21

My local gunshop has a nice Austrian FAL kit,an STG58. It's been sitting on his floor for a couple of years with an asking price of $425. He offered it to me for $400. Is that a decent kit,at a decent price?

Matt(formerly@)EntrepriseArms · November 30, 2010, 16:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Clint50
My local gunshop has a nice Austrian FAL kit,an STG58. It's been sitting on his floor for a couple of years with an asking price of $425. He offered it to me for $400. Is that a decent kit,at a decent price?

Buy it and run.

Topbanana · November 30, 2010, 16:40

WHERE IS THIS RIFLE???

Eric Bryant · November 30, 2010, 16:52

Buy a complete kit - it'll be less frustrating (and probably less expensive!) than trying to piece something together bit-by-bit.

Either sell the leftover parts to recoup some of the cost, or use them for building a second rifle

Clint50 · November 30, 2010, 16:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt@Entreprisearms

Buy it and run.

Thanks,Matt. I'll grab it,tomorrow.

Clint50 · November 30, 2010, 17:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric Bryant
Buy a complete kit - it'll be less frustrating (and probably less expensive!) than trying to piece something together bit-by-bit.

Either sell the leftover parts to recoup some of the cost, or use them for building a second rifle

Other than an upper receiver,what else would I need to complete it?

warsteiner_1970 · November 30, 2010, 18:35

If its a all matching STG in really nice shape..please don't part it to make a PARA..I have almost a complete PARA with new lower, new carrier, like new unnumbered bolt new barrel etc.would be all,matching as it has no numbers yet...Maybe a trade can be hashed out. Thanks Jim

Whoops...my bad..though you were going to build PARA with it...LOL..

I'm looking for a exc to mint kit..

Clint50 · November 30, 2010, 20:14

Quote:

Originally posted by warsteiner_1970
If its a all matching STG in really nice shape..please don't part it to make a PARA..I have almost a complete PARA with new lower, new carrier, like new unnumbered bolt new barrel etc.would be all,matching as it has no numbers yet...Maybe a trade can be hashed out. Thanks Jim

I already own a very nice 16" Para. Would like to build an 18" Carbine w/Izzy furniture. The kit parts are all in excellent + condition and matching numbers. Can't believe it's been sitting there all this time w/o someone snatching it up.
However,I'll keep your offer in mind,Jim.

Clint50 · December 06, 2010, 17:35

As I don't really understand the differences between the Type I,II,or III receivers,which one would you folks recommend for my STG-58 kit?
Where's the best place to find one?

**preston1026** · December 06, 2010, 18:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Clint50
As I don't really understand the differences between the Type I,II,or III receivers,which one would you folks recommend for my STG-58 kit?
Where's the best place to find one?

I like the type 2's on STG's. DSA sells them but there have been troubles with them recently.

AndyC · December 06, 2010, 20:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Clint50
As I don't really understand the differences between the Type I,II,or III receivers

Here you go - from top to bottom, types 2, 3 and 1:

nwobhm · December 06, 2010, 21:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Clint50
As I don't really understand the differences between the Type I,II,or III receivers,which one would you folks recommend for my STG-58 kit?
Where's the best place to find one?

What is the serial # on your kit? High number, 145k+ would probably be Type III with plastic stock.

Under 60k would be a Type I with wood stock, trap cut.

Any type will work on any serial range.

November 26, 2010, 09:53	#1
Ding556 Registered FALaholic #: 51364 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NYS Posts: 20	Best Para Kit? I am looking to put together an 18" Para Fal. Realizing that I have to piece it together I think it would best to buy a standard kit and build from there. Looking at the Imbel kits as a start and finish it up with the DSA Para kit. Any suggestions on which kit to pursue? Thanks!

November 26, 2010, 10:06	#2
fal fiend Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 7091 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Indiana USA Posts: 2,266	make a good para, i built 1 on a imbel para kit yrs ago. __________________ In memory of a true friend, Derby Fals 1956-2007/ I'm a Contributor, u should be 1 too, support the Fal board.

November 26, 2010, 23:54	#3
Hoot G What, me worry? Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 23207 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South MS Posts: 2,076	Sounds expensive. I'd start with the DSA lightweight lower, para carrier, and springs, and buy the rest of the parts in the Marketplace. Parts you need probably can be had for less than the $350 an Imbel kit (generally the cheapest kits you can get) would cost. Individual parts seem expensive, and they are if you buy them one by one, but if you ask, somebody might have all the little goodies you need and make you a decent price. __________________ Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill Always have a go-to-hell plan.

November 27, 2010, 13:14	#4
fal fiend Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 7091 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Indiana USA Posts: 2,266	i'd still buy a kit, u'll need everything but the bolt carrier & strip lower & butstock. __________________ In memory of a true friend, Derby Fals 1956-2007/ I'm a Contributor, u should be 1 too, support the Fal board.

November 28, 2010, 08:16	#8
fal fiend Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 7091 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Indiana USA Posts: 2,266	dsa para lowers are type 1 if that matters to u. __________________ In memory of a true friend, Derby Fals 1956-2007/ I'm a Contributor, u should be 1 too, support the Fal board.

November 27, 2010, 13:25	#5
Ding556 Registered FALaholic #: 51364 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NYS Posts: 20	I was thinking a kit would give me a few extra parts as well. Not a bad thing. Would a new Argy kit (SARCO) be a smarter choice considering the parts are new?

November 27, 2010, 13:40	#6
CTW Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 41894 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,561	I would not use an Argy just for the cost factor. I would find a nice Imbel kit in the 350 dollar range and go from there. I just ordered the Para kit from DSA and am using a Imbel kit for the base. I sold the lower to help offset the cost of the para kit. I still need to have the barrel cut, recrowned and threaded.

November 28, 2010, 08:13	#7
Ding556 Registered FALaholic #: 51364 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NYS Posts: 20	Thanks for the replies. I found an Imbel kit in the MP right here! Now, to get on the list with DSA for a PARA kit. I am thinking a Type II reciever as well. Thanks!

November 28, 2010, 08:20	#9
preston1026 Go Seminoles! Contributor FALaholic #: 38005 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,663	DSA para kits are very nice in my opinion..,. I have a DSA and falcon and the DSA fits tighter and has a better finish

November 28, 2010, 09:13	#10
Ding556 Registered FALaholic #: 51364 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NYS Posts: 20	Type I it is! Thanks for the heads up! Tried looking at the Falcon set but their site is down or something. Am leaning towards DSA for the Para kit. Thanks!

November 30, 2010, 14:21	#11
Clint50 Registered FALaholic #: 16958 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 33	My local gunshop has a nice Austrian FAL kit,an STG58. It's been sitting on his floor for a couple of years with an asking price of $425. He offered it to me for $400. Is that a decent kit,at a decent price? __________________ Clint FAL Congo Para 16" "You may find me one day dead in a ditch somewhere. But by God, you'll find me in a pile of brass" "The defense of our liberties is first at the ballot box, then the soap box, then the jury box, and finally, failing all else, the cartridge box."

November 30, 2010, 16:40	#13
Topbanana Registered FALaholic #: 20443 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 3,262	WHERE IS THIS RIFLE??? __________________ God created the Earth, Mauser drew the property lines.

November 30, 2010, 16:52	#14
Eric Bryant Registered FALaholic #: 7670 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West MI Posts: 2,189	Buy a complete kit - it'll be less frustrating (and probably less expensive!) than trying to piece something together bit-by-bit. Either sell the leftover parts to recoup some of the cost, or use them for building a second rifle __________________ We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off. - Tyler Durden

November 30, 2010, 18:35	#17
warsteiner_1970 Registered FALaholic #: 54189 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 843	If its a all matching STG in really nice shape..please don't part it to make a PARA..I have almost a complete PARA with new lower, new carrier, like new unnumbered bolt new barrel etc.would be all,matching as it has no numbers yet...Maybe a trade can be hashed out. Thanks Jim Whoops...my bad..though you were going to build PARA with it...LOL.. I'm looking for a exc to mint kit.. Last edited by warsteiner_1970; December 01, 2010 at 20:12.

December 06, 2010, 17:35	#19
Clint50 Registered FALaholic #: 16958 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 33	As I don't really understand the differences between the Type I,II,or III receivers,which one would you folks recommend for my STG-58 kit? Where's the best place to find one? __________________ Clint FAL Congo Para 16" "You may find me one day dead in a ditch somewhere. But by God, you'll find me in a pile of brass" "The defense of our liberties is first at the ballot box, then the soap box, then the jury box, and finally, failing all else, the cartridge box."

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