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Old September 13, 2010, 16:48   #1
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Cuba slashes Govt Employees, Why can't we?

Cuba is cutting 1 million public employee jobs, where are all the smaller govt, free market leaders from either party that are pushing for shashing here?


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Old September 13, 2010, 22:09   #2
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The single biggest voting block in this country is.....


Drum roll please.......


You guessed it.


Government employees at all levels.


Cut the gov jobs....and get voted out next election. People vote their pocketbook first. Government employees pocketbooks depend on those jobs.......
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Old September 14, 2010, 05:21   #3
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:20   #4
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Where is Boner and Bitch McConnell?

Those two make Castro look conservative.



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Old September 14, 2010, 20:54   #5
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Where is Boner and Bitch McConnell?
Those two make Castro look conservative.

Explain please, if you can.
After almost 50 years of the longest lasting modern government that Cuba and Central America has known Cuba is now forced to reverse course from a state controlled and regulated society to a entrepreneurial experiment. Fidel Castro won't be remembered as a Communist but a Cuban liberator, I can see the Castro's inviting the Chinese to explain how they utilize entrepreneurs.
Many recent reports have a large Chinese presence in Cuba now.
How long does it take to make a Manchurian Candidate? That's a rhetorical question, I've seen Chinese make other Chinese and it takes the same period of time that was needed to make a Kenyan Candidate.
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Old September 14, 2010, 22:29   #6
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Explain please, if you can.
What is there to explain?
Have you heard Boner and the Bitch calling for slashing federal employees?
After all they are supposed to be our conservative leaders.


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Old September 14, 2010, 23:53   #7
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Slashing of employees is a function of the executive branch. A majority in the legislature can cut funds for employees but not fire them, neither man is now in the majority party.
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Old September 15, 2010, 00:12   #8
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'Smaller government' will only come after a crash, burn and fragmentation of the US. An economic apocalypto would probably be the calling card. And those Republicans riding to victory on election day are not going to save us.
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Old September 15, 2010, 06:25   #9
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Lets start at the top. Impeach obama!

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Old September 15, 2010, 07:47   #10
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Slashing of employees is a function of the executive branch. A majority in the legislature can cut funds for employees but not fire them, neither man is now in the majority party.
My last hit record did not go gold because I never made it.
What would you estimate your alcohol blood level to be at this time?
But you can still sing in shower can't you?

Yes, I know Martin they can't do the actual issuing of pink slips, that is why I used the word calling.

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Old September 15, 2010, 08:47   #11
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Obama is now facing a challenge that he sees as the most dangerous he has even encounterd.

That is Cuba heading to capitalism as it trys to dismantle all that Obama wants to build here.

Yes, 90 miles from our shore the most dangerous virus that Obama can conceive of, is taking over.

Will Obama bomb or invade? he'll want to do a "Surge" to stop this Cuban madness?
Will GM or Ford build an assembly plant? Will the Mob move back to the Casinos?

Obama's worst nightmare for sure.
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Old September 15, 2010, 09:01   #12
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I wonder if they'll stage a "Bay of Pigs Two" to keep that small government nonsense from spreading.

I suspect this time, it'd be supported by the U.S. government.
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Old September 15, 2010, 09:28   #13
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Yeah, "lets get rid of em". Class warfare juanni strikes again, "Federal vs State vs Private sector, divide and conquer. How about we focus on the politicians who created the monster and keep it feed first. Charles Rangel is still a contender, no calls for the notably corrupt to step down(and that list gets longer every week).

I'm with D P Six on this one, the government has their hands in everything, it will take a complete collapse to reverse the current level of involvement. Kind of like a reset button being pushed, it would be painful for everyone, some would not survive as it would incite violence in some areas (when that check stops comming).

Such a scenario is avoidable, it is up to us, best vote and remove those squatters from office.

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Old September 15, 2010, 09:58   #14
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Yeah, "lets get rid of em". Class warfare juanni strikes again, "Federal vs State vs Private sector, divide and conquer.


Producers vs Parasites, cowbilly.

Good to see you stand up for BiG Bloated Govt with BiG bloated salaries and benefits.



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Old September 15, 2010, 11:35   #15
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You never said how many jobs you've produced.

You promote things without thought. Cut loose 1 million Fed emloyees and see what happens. Instant collapse, we are trying to avoid that...... I thought. It has to be a steady ratcheting down. You seem not to worry about the fools running this country into the ground. That should be everyones focus right now.

I know a good many Federal techs, the vast majority make 20-50K which is not a killing. They also pay for their own health care and pay taxes. Retirement is above average though and I must admit I am jealous of it.

You assume much.

Again, class warfare jaunni at full strength.
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Old September 15, 2010, 12:26   #16
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You never said how many jobs you've produced.

You promote things without thought. Cut loose 1 million Fed emloyees and see what happens. Instant collapse, we are trying to avoid that...... I thought. It has to be a steady ratcheting down. You seem not to worry about the fools running this country into the ground. That should be everyones focus right now.

I know a good many Federal techs, the vast majority make 20-50K which is not a killing. They also pay for their own health care and pay taxes. Retirement is above average though and I must admit I am jealous of it.

You assume much.

Again, class warfare jaunni at full strength.
How many jobs have I created?
Lots.
I have owned my own businesses, hired employees, sub contractors etc. Made and spent money in the free market economy WITHOUT any subsities, govt grants, discount window access, student loans, pell grants, SBA loans, welfare, purchased tax breaks or ANY other assistance from anyone.
Providing products and services that the free market needs creates jobs and a healthy economy, creating jobs the free market doesn't need doesn't.

Federal spending is KILLING our capitalist system, the free market and the producing taxpayers.
Jeez... what are you a socialist?

The number of Federal employees have grown way faster than the population.
1 in 5 makes now over $100k in salary plus benefits.
The average federal salary is now $71,260, almost $31,000 more than the comparative average private-sector wage plus way better benefits.

Slashing spending is the only way to return to a sustainable economy, we can't just keep printing and borrowing forever.

Lord, does anyone here support capitalism, free markets and small limited govt?


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Old September 15, 2010, 13:31   #17
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Oh do elaborate on the jobs and products/services. What business were you in? Retired? Social Security? Medicare? Any government contracts? What about government employees paying you?

I've hired and subcontracted and had a business for a couple of years too. Your not the only one here who has been there and done that. Everyone contributes to the economy to some degree, some more than others granted.

Don't forget about the Troops who ensured you'd have the freedom to do whatever it is you do or did over the years. If the rest of that "look at me" stuff is true then congratulations and good for you. I used GI bill to go to school but I'm sure you think that is a handout, sure did not feel like one.

If you owned your own business then you probably understand how averages work. Most don't see that average 71K salary as one nut crazy salary will skew your numbers. Everyone agrees that spending is out of control, even viral liberals are admitting to that.

Most everyone here is also pro-freedom and capitalistic in nature. My issue is that your focus is misguided as you chose to attack workers instead of all the other junk that goes on that is pure waste. Our effort should be cleaning out DC and the local politicians. Class envy or blaming state or federal empoyees for the problem accomplishes nothing.

Again, you assume much with your name calling.
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Old September 15, 2010, 14:31   #18
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Oh do elaborate on the jobs and products/services. What business were you in? Retired? Social Security? Medicare? Any government contracts? What about government employees paying you?
Sorry I won't be going into my business, but I assure it was/is all legit and ethical.
Retired? No.
Social Security? No.
Medicare? No.
Any government contracts? No.
What about government employees paying you? Well I am sure some have been. I never asked, don't discriminate and has no bearing.

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If you owned your own business then you probably understand how averages work. Most don't see that average 71K salary as one nut crazy salary will skew your numbers.
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The average federal salary is now $71,260, almost $31,000 more than the comparative average private-sector wage plus way better benefits.
These (average of federal employees) are large data sets, "one nut crazy salary" isn't going to have a significant impact.


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Old September 15, 2010, 15:00   #19
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That is what i thought and I don't blame you either.

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition...terstitialskip


Read the bottom of the article and you'll see the error that caused the increase in 100K employess, now 19% of the force. The pay plan is supposedly being phased out in 2012. It looks as though the total figure includes military personnel too, LTCs, COLs and GENs deserve that 100K pay. As for the vast majority under that figure, I say every pay increase a Solider gets is well deserved.

There are a couple of nut crazy increases because of the boss rule. Look up the GS pay scale most are under GS7.

Bottom line, focus on the real problem.
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Re: Cuba slashes Govt Employees, Why can't we?

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Cuba is cutting 1 million public employee jobs, where are all the smaller govt, free market leaders from either party that are pushing for shashing here?


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In a Communist country, EVERYONE works for the government! This is nothing more than the worker's utopia going broke. Second Revolution, anyone???
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Originally posted by Pistolwiz
The single biggest voting block in this country is.....


Drum roll please.......


You guessed it.


Government employees at all levels.


Cut the gov jobs....and get voted out next election. People vote their pocketbook first. Government employees pocketbooks depend on those jobs.......
I work for the government. I'll join the private sector when private Armies are authorized... Gross generalizations make people look pretty dim. The vast majority of federal employees are productive and DO NOT support Obama or anything in his regime or the new socialist party.
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What is there to explain?
Have you heard Boner and the Bitch calling for slashing federal employees?
After all they are supposed to be our conservative leaders.


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"Boner" and "Bitch"??? Those are terms all the gay socialists are using over at Tailpipe's Daily Kos.

Juanita, the legalize pot party is never going anywhere. The sooner you realize that the better off you will be...
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