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This is a microwave with no faraday cage
An LA jail will install this thing to stop fights. It is a microwave that is not contained, except in this case, by the walls of the jail. It works by microwaving the top layer of the subject's skin. While it is suppose to be safe, having tested it on some 700 test subjects, at least one was hospitalized with 3rd degree burns. I guess someone turned up the power....
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...est=latestnews I also understand that they have been using this in Afghanistan as a crow control device. It is also mentioned in "Foreign Enemies and Traitors". I think I read that the street version is good for 800 yds. Sorry I don't have a link. I read several articles about it. One said that an aluminum foil suit would protect a person, but I have accidentially put aluminum foil in the microwave before. Wouldn't want to be wearing it at that particular time. Especially with no power rheostat limit on power. |
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August 24, 2010, 00:39
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tin foil needs to be grounded!!!!!
then you ok
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August 24, 2010, 05:21
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Re: This is a microwave with no faraday cage
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August 24, 2010, 05:30
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Here is what it looks like- street version- should be mounted on a Humvee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_1teOTE1Gg I may edit if I can find anythong else on it shortly. edit: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0302-01.htm I hate using them as a source but they seem to have the only photo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System |
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August 24, 2010, 05:34
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Okay, then. Zero with AP 30-06.
Check. |
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August 24, 2010, 05:42
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Cover yourself with hot butter. And carry a Wok.
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August 24, 2010, 05:43
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Wasn't the "pain beam" something from the original "Star Trek"?
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August 24, 2010, 05:45
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Anybody who thinks these things will not be turned on this government's own citizens is in Active Denial.
Of course, if you're not doing anything wroooo-oong..... |
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August 24, 2010, 05:47
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August 24, 2010, 08:54
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Schlomo,
I think your correct that eventually some of these will be turned over to big city law enforcement. A few well placed rifle rds would put it out of commision though and as long as you are behind cover and not out in the open your fine. Real question is though, will foliage stop its effects? Thanks Thorack
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August 24, 2010, 09:57
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Non lethal methods of enforcing compliance will be thought very humane by those who need compliance to their demands.
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August 24, 2010, 10:59
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Re: Re: This is a microwave with no faraday cage
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August 24, 2010, 11:40
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pisshawww ...no different than iraq ...3 mil worth of tech ...= a large scrap pile when fertilizer and a cell phone are introduced ...NO BIGGIE ....the second they turn it on, the same second they go away ...its always a bad idea to microwave explosives ....or gas tanks or pacemakers or cyborg NO HEART cheeney ...shut him rite off
when will they ever learn  but then again if ya got a crowd destroying a city over something as stupid as a football game ...i say FRY EM ...hehe...they wont be missed . |
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August 24, 2010, 11:48
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A big mirror might be good.
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mirror ...? wrong wavelength ..
just go to the scrap yard ..take all the little windows out of the microwaves and make a sheild ... 
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ggiilliiee, a mirror would reflect microwave...and light...only difference is you wouldn't be able to see shorter wavelength light through it like a microwave door.
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August 24, 2010, 13:57
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the weakness in this system is clear. think about it for a few minutes. defeating this system does not call for MOA AP rifle fire. it's much simpler to deal with the operator than with the generating device...
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I saw something about this a few years ago. It's potential is frightening.
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Seriously, when microwaved (possibly depending on the frequency), what gets hot is "water" because the molecules are vibrated against each other and this friction causes the heat. In plywood, I don't think there is any moisture, but in plants, especially dripping wet ones, the microwaves would stop pretty much there and absorb the energy. Just my guess though. Any engineers out there? Please quit driving your train for a minute and shed some light on this. Edut fer stuped speling erors. |
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August 25, 2010, 12:06
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this engineer says go to the source and incapacitate.
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If the concept of heading on down to the local Home Depot and transforming $100 worth of random pipe bits into a killing machine doesn’t appeal to you, you’re a frikkin' pansy. Also, you’re probably sane and will live significantly longer than I will. Nonetheless you disgust me, and I take comfort in the knowledge that your obituary will be nowhere near as humorous as mine. The next time I hear "THE RANGE IS NOW HOT", it just wont be the same. Max tried another question. "What sort of people live about here?" "In THAT direction," the Jin said, waving its right paw round, "lives a Han: And in THAT direction," waving the other paw, "lives a Ming Hare. Visit either you like: they're both mad." "But I don't want to go among mad people," Max remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Jin: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Max. "You must be," said the Jin, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
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August 25, 2010, 12:10
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The Active Denial System is demo-ed on Future Weapons on the Military Channel by the ex-Seal dude.
Humvee mounted, looks to be on a rotating table with a range of 500 ? yards. Individual persons in a crowd can be targeted with this rig. Likely the "Papa" of the jailhouse version ? |
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August 25, 2010, 15:19
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Anything man made, can be man destroyed. One of the old machinists that taught me the trade, had a phrase he would use on occaision..."he could tear up an anvil in a sand pile"... of course he was never talking about me
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August 25, 2010, 17:09
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August 25, 2010, 17:18
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Poop happens, Steve.
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August 25, 2010, 17:27
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The answer is in my question.
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August 25, 2010, 17:41
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I swear you guys continue to disappoint me. Wet foliage, dry plywood, rifels. Like takin' a squad of homosexual eunuchs on a rape and pillage, gotta' rethink yer' logistics.
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Not being amongst the rabble the weapon is aimed at and being to the flanks and rear areas are always preferable.
Get out of the cities . . .
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If the concept of heading on down to the local Home Depot and transforming $100 worth of random pipe bits into a killing machine doesn’t appeal to you, you’re a frikkin' pansy. Also, you’re probably sane and will live significantly longer than I will. Nonetheless you disgust me, and I take comfort in the knowledge that your obituary will be nowhere near as humorous as mine. The next time I hear "THE RANGE IS NOW HOT", it just wont be the same. Max tried another question. "What sort of people live about here?" "In THAT direction," the Jin said, waving its right paw round, "lives a Han: And in THAT direction," waving the other paw, "lives a Ming Hare. Visit either you like: they're both mad." "But I don't want to go among mad people," Max remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Jin: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Max. "You must be," said the Jin, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
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