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Old July 28, 2010, 14:08   #1
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NRA supports Progressive Dems

Check out this interview that FNC did with NRA's Wayne Lapierre. It will make you sick. You have to listen close, Its what he doesn't say thats frightening. NRA will endorse Harry Reid and other Progressives. After 28 years as a life NRA member and several correspondences with the NRA-ILA team I resigned from the NRA.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4294508/d...nd-amendmento.
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Old July 28, 2010, 15:08   #2
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Old July 28, 2010, 15:18   #3
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They had the nerve to send me a reup letter that it was my 'last chance'
to keep my member number. Needless to say, but it got sent back with
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Old July 29, 2010, 06:14   #4
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The NRA leadership might as well start dating Elton Johns and rentin' a room from Barny Frank.
If they aren't already.
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Old July 29, 2010, 07:04   #5
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Oops. Already covered. http://www.falfiles.com/forums/forum...?s=&forumid=10

As for the NRA, if they win the fight, their raison d'etre is gone. I became a life member before I knew better. Now I just read the free magazine, ignore their pleas for more money and when they call, ask pointed questions - until they hang up - about their abandonment of EBR owners.
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One of many reasons why I will not give them a dime anymore. It is sickening.

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Old July 29, 2010, 10:31   #8
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It would seem the NRA is about as hardcore as the Republican Party. Can't we just compromise and get along.
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Old July 29, 2010, 20:27   #9
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Quote:
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...I became a life member before I knew better...

Now I just read the free magazine, ignore their pleas for more money and when they call, ask pointed questions - until they hang up - about their abandonment of EBR owners.
This is me. To a 'T'.

The NRA is NOT wanting to win. They want Imminent Danger on the horizon. End. Of. Story.

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Old August 01, 2010, 03:02   #10
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I emailed 'en and told 'em I would quit if they endorsed Reid. They sent me a link to a page where they say that they haven't decided yet, but it looked like a campaign ad for Reid. I emailed 'em back and told them I'm still gonna quit if they endorse Reid. I haven't gotten a reply.

Got a request in the mail yesterday, asking for money to support the politicians that NRA is going to endorse. I used their postage to send 'em a note to tell them that I'm not going to give them any money until I know who they're going to endorse. I'm going to do the same thing next month, since they send me two envelops to make "donations" with.

Also, I told 'em that the money I usually contributed was going instead to the GOA. I don't think they like that message. I also think they didn't like it when I told them that the 2nd isn't worth squat if the others aren't upheld.

I think they probably will endorse Reid. He helped carve out an exception for the NRA in the DISCLOSE Act. Seems that the NRA is just as bootlicking as the rest of the politicos in DC.


If they endorse Reid, I will resign, and demand a refund on "unused dues" or whatever they call it, and tell them to send it to the GOA. And, notify them that they are out of my will. I have been encouraging every member I know to do the same. "We the members" have the power, if we choose to use it.

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If they support Dingy Harry, I'm cancelling my Life Membership and will do all I can to call them out as the political cronies they are starting to become.

NO MORE COMPROMISE!

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Harry Reid's Anti-Gun Record

Below are over 50 anti-gun votes by Harry Reid.


June 28, 1991. Vote No. 115. Voted for a 5 day waiting period for handgun purchases.

October 21, 1993. Vote 325. Voted to eliminate the Army Civilian Marksmanship Program.

November 19, 1993. Vote 385. Voted to allow states to impose waiting periods over and above the 5 days waiting period required under the Brady Bill.

November 19, 1993. Vote 386. Voted to eliminate the 5-year sunset in the Brady Bill.

November 19, 1993. Vote 387. Voted to close off debate on the Brady Bill.

November 19, 1993. Vote 390. Voted to close off debate on the Brady Bill.

November 20, 1993. Vote 394. Voted for the Brady Bill, which imposed a 5-business-day waiting period before purchasing a handgun.

August 25, 1994. Vote 294. Voted to close off debate on the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on so-called "assault weapons."

August 25, 1994. Vote 295. Voted for the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on so-called "assault weapons."

April 17, 1996. Vote 64. Voted to expand the statute of limitations for paperwork violations in National Firearms Act from 3 years to 5 years.

June 27, 1996. Vote 178. Voted to block the transfer of obsolete rifles for use by the Civilian Marksmanship Program.

September 12, 1996. Vote 287. Voted to spend $21.5 million for a study on putting "taggants" in black and smokeless gunpowder.

September 12, 1996. Vote 290. Voted to make it a federal crime to possess a gun within a school zone.

May 12, 1999. Vote 111. Voted to give the Treasury Department expansive new authority to regulate and keep records on gun shows and their participants.

May 13, 1999. Vote 116. Voted to ban the importation of large capacity ammunition clips

May 14, 1999. Vote 119. Voted to allow only federally licensed and registered gun dealers to sell firearms via the internet.

May 20, 1999. Vote 133. Voted to require background checks on all purchasers of handguns at pawn shops.

May 20, 1999. Vote 134. Voted to require criminal background checks on all gun sales at gun shows, prohibit non-federal licensees from participating in gun shows and direct the U.S. attorney general to hold background files collected on gun owners for 90 days.

May 20, 1999. Vote 140. Voted for the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a package of gun control measures.

July 29, 1999. Vote 224. Voted to close debate on the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a package of gun control measures.

February 2, 2000. Vote 4. Voted to bar gun manufacturers from discharging debts caused by fraud, recklessness, misrepresentation, nuisance, negligence, or product liability, such as lawsuits filed by municipalities.

March 2, 2000. Vote 27. Voted to expresses the sense of the Senate that Congress implement policies that will reduce the threat of gun violence in schools before April 20, 2000.

April 6, 2000. Vote 64. Voted for a gun control package including new onerous restrictions on gun shows.

April 7, 2000. Vote 74. Voted against an amendment to provide for the enforcement of existing gun laws in lieu of new burdensome gun control mandates.

May 16, 2000. Vote 100. Voted to commend the participants of the so-called "Million Mom March" for their demand for more Federal restrictions on firearms ownership, and to urge the passage of strict gun control measures.

May 17, 2000. Vote 103. Voted against expressing the sense of the Senate that the right of each law-abiding citizen to own firearms for a legitimate purpose should not be infringed, among other provisions.

May 17, 2000. Vote 104. Voted for an amendment commending the participants of the so-called "Million Mom March" for their demand for more federal restrictions on firearms ownership, and to urge the passage of strict gun control measures.

February 26, 2004. Vote 17. Voted to impose mandatory secure gun storage or safety devices for handguns, and would impose penalties on handgun dealers who did not comply.

March 2, 2004. Vote 25. Voted to require criminal background checks on all firearm transactions at gun shows where at least 75 guns are sold.

July 28, 2005. Vote 207. Voted to impose mandatory secure gun storage or safety devices for handguns, and would impose penalties on handgun dealers who did not comply.

June 28, 1991. Vote No. 115. Voted for a 5 day waiting period for handgun purchases.

October 21, 1993. Vote 325. Voted to eliminate the Army Civilian Marksmanship Program.

November 19, 1993. Vote 385. Voted to allow states to impose waiting periods over and above the 5 days waiting period required under the Brady Bill.

November 19, 1993. Vote 386. Voted to eliminate the 5-year sunset in the Brady Bill.

November 19, 1993. Vote 387. Voted to close off debate on the Brady Bill.

November 19, 1993. Vote 390. Voted to close off debate on the Brady Bill.

November 20, 1993. Vote 394. Voted for the Brady Bill, which imposed a 5-business-day waiting period before purchasing a handgun.

August 25, 1994. Vote 294. Voted to close off debate on the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on so-called "assault weapons."

August 25, 1994. Vote 295. Voted for the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on so-called "assault weapons."

April 17, 1996. Vote 64. Voted to expand the statute of limitations for paperwork violations in National Firearms Act from 3 years to 5 years.

June 27, 1996. Vote 178. Voted to block the transfer of obsolete rifles for use by the Civilian Marksmanship Program.

September 12, 1996. Vote 287. Voted to spend $21.5 million for a study on putting "taggants" in black and smokeless gunpowder.

September 12, 1996. Vote 290. Voted to make it a federal crime to possess a gun within a school zone.

May 12, 1999. Vote 111. Voted to give the Treasury Department expansive new authority to regulate and keep records on gun shows and their participants.

May 13, 1999. Vote 116. Voted to ban the importation of large capacity ammunition clips

May 14, 1999. Vote 119. Voted to allow only federally licensed and registered gun dealers to sell firearms via the internet.

May 20, 1999. Vote 133. Voted to require background checks on all purchasers of handguns at pawn shops.

May 20, 1999. Vote 134. Voted to require criminal background checks on all gun sales at gun shows, prohibit non-federal licensees from participating in gun shows and direct the U.S. attorney general to hold background files collected on gun owners for 90 days.

May 20, 1999. Vote 140. Voted for the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a package of gun control measures.

July 29, 1999. Vote 224. Voted to close debate on the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a package of gun control measures.

February 2, 2000. Vote 4. Voted to bar gun manufacturers from discharging debts caused by fraud, recklessness, misrepresentation, nuisance, negligence, or product liability, such as lawsuits filed by municipalities.

March 2, 2000. Vote 27. Voted to expresses the sense of the Senate that Congress implement policies that will reduce the threat of gun violence in schools before April 20, 2000.

April 6, 2000. Vote 64. Voted for a gun control package including new onerous restrictions on gun shows.

April 7, 2000. Vote 74. Voted against an amendment to provide for the enforcement of existing gun laws in lieu of new burdensome gun control mandates.

May 16, 2000. Vote 100. Voted to commend the participants of the so-called "Million Mom March" for their demand for more Federal restrictions on firearms ownership, and to urge the passage of strict gun control measures.

May 17, 2000. Vote 103. Voted against expressing the sense of the Senate that the right of each law-abiding citizen to own firearms for a legitimate purpose should not be infringed, among other provisions.

May 17, 2000. Vote 104. Voted for an amendment commending the participants of the so-called "Million Mom March" for their demand for more federal restrictions on firearms ownership, and to urge the passage of strict gun control measures.

February 26, 2004. Vote 17. Voted to impose mandatory secure gun storage or safety devices for handguns, and would impose penalties on handgun dealers who did not comply.

March 2, 2004. Vote 25. Voted to require criminal background checks on all firearm transactions at gun shows where at least 75 guns are sold.

July 28, 2005. Vote 207. Voted to impose mandatory secure gun storage or safety devices for handguns, and would impose penalties on handgun dealers who did not comply.

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Old August 02, 2010, 14:05   #12
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I received a letter from NRA-ILA regarding my query as to endorsement of Harry Reid for Senate. Standard auto-response 1A to Reid opposition...

Thank you for contacting the NRA-ILA regarding recent reports that the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) has endorsed U.S. Senator Harry Reid for reelection.

For the record, the NRA-PVF has not yet made an endorsement in the Nevada U.S. Senate race. In fact, there have been no announced endorsements for any U.S. Senate seat for the November general elections—period.

For several reasons, we generally do not announce ratings or endorsements until closer to the elections. There are still votes to be graded and other information to be evaluated prior to issuing an accurate grade as Election Day nears.

The NRA-PVF looks at the entirety of a candidate’s record. We start with the candidate’s voting record (if any), along with answers to questionnaires, statements and floor speeches the candidate makes on Second Amendment issues, as well as any action the candidate may have taken as a committee member or leader.

Our endorsements are not given lightly, nor are they issued in every race. An NRA-PVF endorsement is something that has to be earned. As we do every election year, we wait until all the votes are taken and evaluate a candidate’s entire record. Making a decision prematurely, before votes are taken, risks giving politicians a “free pass”—something we can’t and won’t allow.

It is important to note that the NRA is a single-issue organization. Our ratings and endorsements are based solely on a candidate’s support for, or opposition to, our Second Amendment rights. Other issues, as important as they may be to many people, do not and cannot play any role in those decisions. NRA represents a broad coalition of American gun owners, who are bound together by their support for the right to keep and bear arms.

For us to factor non-gun-related issues into our ratings would foolishly divide our unified base of support on the Second Amendment. This policy has served NRA and gun owners well over the past three-plus decades, making us the nation’s pre-eminent pro-Second Amendment advocacy group.

We fully understand that voters must take into account a variety of issues when deciding for whom to vote. We respect that. It is our responsibility, however, to provide voters with information solely on a candidate’s position on gun-related issues so that they may factor that consideration in addition to other issues.
Admittedly, Senator Reid’s record is not perfect; few politicians’ records are. For a number of years (primarily in the 1990s) Sen. Reid had some problematic votes on our issue. But in the last five years, he has dramatically improved his record on our issue, so the NRA-PVF would be irresponsible if it did not give due consideration to those recent votes and actions. There is no doubt that, as Senate Majority Leader, Reid has supported efforts to protect Americans’ gun rights, both by voting FOR pro-gun measures AND preventing anti-gun legislation from reaching the Senate floor.

In 2004, Sen. Reid voted against efforts to reauthorize the Clinton ban on “assault weapons” and ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, which are standard equipment for many rifles and for most modern semi-automatic pistols designed for defensive use. Early last year, he flatly stated he would oppose any effort to reinstate an “assault weapon” and magazine ban if the Senate were to vote on it in the future. In 2005, Sen. Reid was instrumental in Senate passage (and eventual enactment into law) of the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act” (PLCAA). That law shut down reckless lawsuits against gun manufacturers and dealers, which attempted to hold them liable for the misuse of firearms by criminals. Sen. Reid also cosponsored the PLCAA in the previous Congress and voted against the Feinstein Amendment to ban “assault weapons” and "large" magazines, and the Kennedy Amendment that would have banned most hunting ammunition.

Sen. Reid voted for legislation, which became law in 2006, to prohibit gun confiscation during states of emergency. He also voted for legislation to allow commercial airline pilots to be armed in the cockpit to protect their passengers and crews .

In the last two years, Sen. Reid voted for the Ensign Amendment to repeal the Washington D.C. gun ban and restore self-defense rights in our nation’s capital. He cosponsored similar legislation -- S.1414 -- in the 108th Congress. He also voted for an amendment to allow law-abiding citizens to carry firearms for self-defense in national parks and wildlife refuges. This federal policy change took effect on February 22. In addition, Sen. Reid voted last year for the Thune-Vitter Amendment to provide national reciprocity for state Right-to-Carry permits. Sen. Reid also voted twice for the Wicker Amendment allowing Amtrak passengers to include firearms in their checked luggage. In his capacity as Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid made votes on all of these amendments procedurally possible. And these are but a few examples of Senator Reid’s support and leadership on Second Amendment issues.

All of which leads to a very serious question for all NRA members and gun owners who oppose Sen. Reid to contemplate: who would take Reid’s place if he loses his race—and his critically important position as Senate Majority Leader? Remember, the Senate Majority Leader is the gatekeeper who decides which legislation will be considered on the Senate floor. If Sen. Reid loses, the next candidate for Majority Leader is very likely to be Charles Schumer of New York or Dick Durbin of Illinois —two of the most anti-gun U.S. Senators in history!

It is critical to the defense of the Second Amendment that we have pro-gun majorities in the U.S. Congress.

While no endorsement has yet been issued in this race, nor any other U.S. Senate race for the November general election, rest assured that we will make all of these announcements at the appropriate time and in light of our election policy.

Thank you for contacting us and please keep an eye out for our grades and endorsements as the election nears.
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Old August 02, 2010, 14:29   #13
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Sounds like a campaign ad for Harry Reid. Gosh...I wonder who they will recommend???
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