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An email worth sharing.
Though I'm not the author I certainly could have been, as could many of us.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of us did write it. Maybe someone can tell me who did. A little long for a forum but well worth reading. I even learned something interesting about the ground zero mosque. Quote:
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I agree,,,it's a little long,,,and it could have been written by someone that haunts these envirions
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Excellent read, it was long, but probably not long enough. There should be several further installments.
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Term limits are in place through primarys and elections every 2-4 years. We just don't pay them too much attention nor do we use them correctly. The people keep electing John Kerrys', McCain's, Schumer's, Kennedy's, Boxer's, Pelosi's, Frank's, Rangal's, Thompson's and Dodd's et al. The people also elected Obama despite his poor qualifications. Not sure what the solution is but a good many of the people voting do not keep the constitution in mind, too many decisions are based on feelings and looks.
Good read. As you stated, we all feel that way. |
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Nov. 2, 2010 is the day we will find out if there will be a reason to have hope for our counrty.
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Incumbents are hard to pry out and their respective parties don't welcome new blood. They fund raise on your dime while they are supposed to be representing you and as long as they're part of the good ole boy network, they get the nominations.
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I agree that vetted incumbent is harder to remove but the people still have to vote for them. We are where we are because we don't put a stop to it.
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A Poll tax of sorts. A Poll tax is not a tax like we are used to. It is a restriction as to who can vote. A good one would to restrict those that do NOT pay taxes would not be able to vote. Why should someone not paying into the system be able to dictate by vote who pays what for their benefit? You KNOW a welfare momma woould vote Democrat because they are going to give her mo money. Nope==if you are on the public dole, no vote.
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not to long..were just used to soundbytes..back in the day the written word was the only best way to communicate.back when I was a teen my first girlfriend and I wrote long, detailed letters discussing everything..15-20 pages at a pop..now with ease of email Its little, concise snippets, my most recent ex-girlfriend said I talked/wrote to much...that from a women!
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I'd say we would do a better job of thinning the herd at the polling booth w/ a literacy test of some sort administered in ENGLISH. |
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I'd be fine with voting restrictions at the federal level. They were in place at the founding. The taxes thing not so much, but I'd be OK with restricting the right to vote for those on the public dole (food stamps, SSI, public housing, unemployment, social security, take your pick) for more than 6 months.
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IIRC,
At one time only land owners could vote.
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So who gets the vote?
Me or the bank?
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My early years of voting in Texas required a yearly $2 dollar poll tax. The poll tax receipt and voter registration were needed before I could vote.
I carried them next to my just in case condom in my wallet for years,,, and you think you got it tough today, the old lady at the drug store woudn't sell you a condom if you didn't have a wedding band. I tried to "vote" as much as they would let me.
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In theory you own the property but are using it as collateral for a loan.
You pay the taxes so you own the land. Ergo, you get the vote. The bank only owns the property if you default on the loan and they take possession. I guess they get to vote then. Hmmm.... explains some of our banking laws.
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Sounds good to me
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If it's property tax then the state gets your vote. If it's fed income tax then the fed gets to do what they want. Hey... They already do, don't they? Good question on property taxation. Just off hand I don't know the answer. The property owners only getting a vote was long before all this other BS. I wonder how things would have turned out if it had stayed that way.
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