SA58 Carry Handle Removal - Lock Ring Tool?

dkn · July 05, 2010, 10:36

I would like to replace the carry handle on my SA58. It has a tiny (~.25") lock ring that holds it on. Does anyone know the proper tool (with a link from where to purchase it) to remove this small lock ring and replace it? The lock ring is listed as part #114 in the DS Arms schematic.

Survey Punk · July 05, 2010, 11:50

I believe the gas adjustment part of the standard combo tool will loosen the nut that holds the carry handle on.

JB

Survey Punk · July 05, 2010, 11:54

Ahhhhh, I see now that I look at the drawing.
You're not replacing the handle, you're replacing the handle.

Never mind,
JB

**LaConservationist** · July 05, 2010, 11:54

Survey Punk, I think DKN is only wishing to replace the actual wire filler handle portion.

I have used a small "HOOKED" style ice pick/dental tool ro remove mine in the past, they are NOT easy for someone like me that has to experiment with such items, as a lot of this stuff is was my first attempts, but it worked for me. I am sure one of the builders or someone that knows much more than me will be along to direct you.

Best of Luck

LC

**J. Armstrong** · July 05, 2010, 12:20

Why not just improve the rifle by removing the handle entirely - "'ere, it's not a bleedin' purse, mate ".

Are you actually using the handle so much that you feel there is an advantage in changing it

BTW, that little ring WILL fly about a half a mile if it gets a chance. If you must tinker, do it inside a large clear plastic bag to even up the odds of finding it when it seeks its freedom !

GOVTMOD · July 05, 2010, 12:22

This is how I do it, not for the squeamish.

Get a bench block with the various sized holes drilled in it. if you have a rubber or delron one that works best. If you have a steel one put a couple of layers of masking tape over it if you intend to reuse the handle. Mine is actually an old hockey puck with a bunch of holes drilled in it.

Set the end of the handle in a hole big enough to clear the rod but not the handle. Smack it with a plastic mallet. This will dislodge the inner retainer and let the handle slide back enough so you can grab the end retainer with a pair of pliers and work it off the end of the rod. You can then remove the handle and the inner retainer if you like.

If you lose or break the retainer I use an old hammer spring to make a replacement. Cut about 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 coils off the end of the spring then spread it out by putting it on the end of a a center punch and forcing it open until it spreads to the size of a non overlapping ring. This is virtually identical to the factory CH retainers. I install them using the same block but with a smaller hole that lets the rod through but not the retainer. Works like a charm.

**J. Armstrong** · July 05, 2010, 12:27

GOVTMOD, that is a much better way of doing it. Nice tip about the hammer spring replacement clip

dkn · July 06, 2010, 05:59

I like GOVTMOD's advice.

I was hoping that one of you had found a a tool like:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#lock-ring-pliers/=7uafhf

that would be small enough to get the ring off and back on without damaging it.

However, I will give it a go.

Thanks to all for your quick replies.

dkn

seg · July 06, 2010, 05:59

AHHHHH, now that was too easy.
Thanks GOVTMOD

July 05, 2010, 11:50	#2
Survey Punk FALaholic #: 8380 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Blounts Creek, NC Posts: 4,159	I believe the gas adjustment part of the standard combo tool will loosen the nut that holds the carry handle on. JB __________________ "If innocence is no protection from the weight of criminal law, a crucial incentive to maintain innocence is lost" Fran Haga

July 05, 2010, 11:54	#3
Survey Punk FALaholic #: 8380 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Blounts Creek, NC Posts: 4,159	Ahhhhh, I see now that I look at the drawing. You're not replacing the handle, you're replacing the handle. Never mind, JB __________________ "If innocence is no protection from the weight of criminal law, a crucial incentive to maintain innocence is lost" Fran Haga

July 05, 2010, 11:54	#4
LaConservationist IN DENIAL NOT ADDICTED!! Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 42319 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Louisiana Bayous! Posts: 6,370	Survey Punk, I think DKN is only wishing to replace the actual wire filler handle portion. I have used a small "HOOKED" style ice pick/dental tool ro remove mine in the past, they are NOT easy for someone like me that has to experiment with such items, as a lot of this stuff is was my first attempts, but it worked for me. I am sure one of the builders or someone that knows much more than me will be along to direct you. Best of Luck LC __________________ In MEMORY of Roger "DUNKRD" Dunkelbarger September 13, 1943 - May 09, 2010 "Any one who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

July 05, 2010, 12:20	#5
J. Armstrong Minister of Amusement Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 13629 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SE Pa Posts: 8,490	Why not just improve the rifle by removing the handle entirely - "'ere, it's not a bleedin' purse, mate ". Are you actually using the handle so much that you feel there is an advantage in changing it BTW, that little ring WILL fly about a half a mile if it gets a chance. If you must tinker, do it inside a large clear plastic bag to even up the odds of finding it when it seeks its freedom ! __________________ "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools" Herbert Spenser "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

July 05, 2010, 12:22	#6
GOVTMOD Registered FALaholic #: 21430 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salt Lake County, Utah Posts: 1,919	This is how I do it, not for the squeamish. Get a bench block with the various sized holes drilled in it. if you have a rubber or delron one that works best. If you have a steel one put a couple of layers of masking tape over it if you intend to reuse the handle. Mine is actually an old hockey puck with a bunch of holes drilled in it. Set the end of the handle in a hole big enough to clear the rod but not the handle. Smack it with a plastic mallet. This will dislodge the inner retainer and let the handle slide back enough so you can grab the end retainer with a pair of pliers and work it off the end of the rod. You can then remove the handle and the inner retainer if you like. If you lose or break the retainer I use an old hammer spring to make a replacement. Cut about 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 coils off the end of the spring then spread it out by putting it on the end of a a center punch and forcing it open until it spreads to the size of a non overlapping ring. This is virtually identical to the factory CH retainers. I install them using the same block but with a smaller hole that lets the rod through but not the retainer. Works like a charm. __________________ GOVT' Not a Gun Nut.... a "Firearms Enthusiast"

July 05, 2010, 10:36	#1
dkn Registered FALaholic #: 54662 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 2	SA58 Carry Handle Removal - Lock Ring Tool? I would like to replace the carry handle on my SA58. It has a tiny (~.25") lock ring that holds it on. Does anyone know the proper tool (with a link from where to purchase it) to remove this small lock ring and replace it? The lock ring is listed as part #114 in the DS Arms schematic.

July 05, 2010, 12:27	#7
J. Armstrong Minister of Amusement Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 13629 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SE Pa Posts: 8,490	GOVTMOD, that is a much better way of doing it. Nice tip about the hammer spring replacement clip __________________ "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools" Herbert Spenser "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

July 06, 2010, 05:59	#8
dkn Registered FALaholic #: 54662 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 2	I like GOVTMOD's advice. I was hoping that one of you had found a a tool like: http://www.mcmaster.com/#lock-ring-pliers/=7uafhf that would be small enough to get the ring off and back on without damaging it. However, I will give it a go. Thanks to all for your quick replies. dkn

July 06, 2010, 05:59	#9
seg Registered FALaholic #: 30396 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Just North of cuba, its called Florida Posts: 390	AHHHHH, now that was too easy. Thanks GOVTMOD __________________ I'm not Paranoid your just naive. Did you hear somthing?? hey your not real anyway, I heard it again.

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