How many want a US made FAL mag? (Pics & videos added) - Page 20

zetabird · January 27, 2012, 13:13

yup lol i kinda figured they weren't available yet, and i have no doubt that the first 2000 are prolly called for, but for what i see so far i will wait patently for a few of these mags.

**croftonaviation** · January 27, 2012, 13:33

Just curious any chance of an inch pattern magazine? Seems like the l1a1 isn't feeling the mag love anywhere.

Thanks

FroggingDevil · January 27, 2012, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses

Because it's one better than 25 of course!!!!

Keeps the last cartridge on a full mag on the left side of the mag same as a 20 rounder.

I just like the sound of a 26 rd mag too.

Would you not like 26 instead of 25?

.

"This one goes to '11'........"

Dopavash · January 31, 2012, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by croftonaviation

Just curious any chance of an inch pattern magazine? Seems like the l1a1 isn't feeling the mag love anywhere.

Thanks

I had the same question and Moses says that these should work in an L1A1 no problem.

Redneck Rob · January 31, 2012, 14:07

I'm still game for five. I think they will be worth the wait.

Mason · January 31, 2012, 15:34

Patiently waiting for my 5, too. Keep up the good work, Johnny!

**LaConservationist** · February 10, 2012, 17:46

OK Johnny.....I slid into the woods for almost 3 months, I buried myself into the swamps and swore I would stay until my MOSES MAGS were completed! Well I have escaped the mud and the muck........PLEASE don't make me go back now........if you knew how bad these kajun blood sucking man eating skeeters were in these parts you would make sure I receive my MOSES MAGS........SOOOOOOOOOOONNNNN

OK well just wanted to say hello, check in and see how the progress is going......Please be sure to tell James and Mel I said hello!!!!

Peace out!!!

LaC

rocky321 · February 13, 2012, 19:09

**moses** · February 15, 2012, 05:54

Still working on the molds, just trying to get everything perfect or as perfect as they can possibly be.

Thanks for the interest and support from everyone.

Don't have a timeline as to when they will be for sale yet but we are a lot closer than we were 6 months ago.

Soon as I have a good idea of when they will be ready I will post here.

Thanks

**L Haney** · February 15, 2012, 05:59

Hey, head banger! You gonna' be able to shoot with us April 7th?

Lowell

**moses** · February 16, 2012, 04:43

I am planning on it!!!
And I am sure I will be using some of my moses mags too!!!!

jjjxlr8 · February 16, 2012, 15:43

Hi Johnny - I see you're unable to accept PMs right now, did you get my email last week?

Thanks,

Jeremy @ jjjxlr8@yahoo.com

Czechsix · February 17, 2012, 02:30

reeeessssuuuuubbbb post.....

rocky321 · February 23, 2012, 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses

Still working on the molds, just trying to get everything perfect or as perfect as they can possibly be.

Thanks for the interest and support from everyone.

Don't have a timeline as to when they will be for sale yet but we are a lot closer than we were 6 months ago.

Soon as I have a good idea of when they will be ready I will post here.

Thanks

With all due respect, I mean really, how perfect do they have to be?

onegunshort · February 23, 2012, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky321

With all due respect, I mean really, how perfect do they have to be?

With all due respect, are you the one who invested thousands of dollars to create a product that you can be proud of?

y0rlik · February 23, 2012, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky321

With all due respect, I mean really, how perfect do they have to be?

I think that's out of DSA's playbook. They went with the 'it works for us most of the time' approach, and it's coming back to bite them in the butt. It turns out they should have done more testing to work out all the bugs, and now people aren't buying their mags. That's a whole lot of money down the drain for a company like DSA, but for better or worse, they can foot the bill.

If Moses' mags don't work 100% of the time, he'll get the same treatment from the FAL community. And to top it off, he'll be out a whole lot of money which he can't afford to lose. If his mags are a flop, then it will probably bankrupt him. That's not a good outcome for anybody. He's taking his time to make sure that his mags are done right and that they work for everybody 100% of the time. That's a good thing.

I know it's frustrating having to wait (I want them to come out too!), but it's part of the process. I would rather wait longer and get a product which works correctly the first time than get one now which doesn't work at all.

JKJ1911 · February 23, 2012, 17:28

Are there pics up of the prototype? In a rifle perhaps?
JKJ disregard, found them.

**hkshooter** · February 23, 2012, 17:39

By Moses' own words the mags are working perfectly. Hard to imagine how they can be made any better than that. The whole thing reminds me of the Shrike. Difference is that Moses will actually eventually produce a retail product that works and that people can afford.

rocky321 · February 23, 2012, 17:45

All good points!

**moses** · February 23, 2012, 20:52

I have videos posted here and on YouTube of the mags working in various FAL's.

The "perfecting" that I speak of is more of the process of how they are made.

We are modifying the molds so that the mags will be 100% workable right out of the mold.
Right now we are having to do secondary steps after the mags are made to get them to the correct dimensions due to the fact that polymers shrink, expand, bow and warp and don't hold the exact dimensions they are made to.
For example if the inside of the mag needs to be say .900 but when it is taken out of the mold and cools it bows in to say .860 in several spots, that is a problem because then it binds on the rounds in the mag.
So we adjust the mold so it is actually wider than we want it in those particular areas and when the mag cools it bows in to the dimension we want .900.
This is a very tedious task as it is kinda a trial and error process, and every change to the steel mold is a long and dawn out process, and not cheap either.

Right now we are having to use a type of mandrel that we place each mag body on as it comes off the mold or place spacers inside the mag body and anneal it to get it to the correct dimension, both of these processes are too time consuming and not cost effective.
We are making one change at a time because sometimes the one change will effect something else and then we have to account for that.

With each change to the mold taking weeks to complete I think you can see why it is taking the amount of time it is.

I hope this offers some insight to everyone eagerly awaiting the moses mags.

I am just determined to do whatever it takes to get this 100% right before selling the mags to the public.

Feel free to ask anymore questions you may have.

**Jaxxas** · February 23, 2012, 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses

Feel free to ask anymore questions you may have.

Awesome! Can you describe the DNA that makes you as AR as you are?

TerryN · February 23, 2012, 22:20

Personally, I support Moses in his desire to have the finished product as close to perfect as it can be. If it takes until next week or next year, I'll still support him, and buy his products. I'd prefer to wait for a near-perfect product rather than have him rush a 'good enough' product to market. As we've seen with DSA's crappy mags and many other 'good enough' products, perfection takes time - and money.

Let's see, a fully functional mag, made by a FAL Filer, that counts as 3 922r compliance parts - what's not to like?

shortround · February 24, 2012, 00:23

Moses, I haven't kept up with all 20 pages of this thread, but have you checked the mags to see if they will work with the Keltec RFB? There is a pretty good potential for sales if they work as well as surplus mags in the RFB.

rocky321 · February 24, 2012, 06:02

Enough said!

**hkshooter** · February 24, 2012, 10:24

Awesome reply and info, Moses!

allied armament · February 25, 2012, 09:58

My hats off to you sir, that is a tedious process, that may have no end in site. I wish you the best of luck, magazine manufacturing is much more complicated than one would think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses

I have videos posted here and on YouTube of the mags working in various FAL's.

The "perfecting" that I speak of is more of the process of how they are made.

We are modifying the molds so that the mags will be 100% workable right out of the mold.
Right now we are having to do secondary steps after the mags are made to get them to the correct dimensions due to the fact that polymers shrink, expand, bow and warp and don't hold the exact dimensions they are made to.
For example if the inside of the mag needs to be say .900 but when it is taken out of the mold and cools it bows in to say .860 in several spots, that is a problem because then it binds on the rounds in the mag.
So we adjust the mold so it is actually wider than we want it in those particular areas and when the mag cools it bows in to the dimension we want .900.
This is a very tedious task as it is kinda a trial and error process, and every change to the steel mold is a long and dawn out process, and not cheap either.

Right now we are having to use a type of mandrel that we place each mag body on as it comes off the mold or place spacers inside the mag body and anneal it to get it to the correct dimension, both of these processes are too time consuming and not cost effective.
We are making one change at a time because sometimes the one change will effect something else and then we have to account for that.

With each change to the mold taking weeks to complete I think you can see why it is taking the amount of time it is.

I hope this offers some insight to everyone eagerly awaiting the moses mags.

I am just determined to do whatever it takes to get this 100% right before selling the mags to the public.

Feel free to ask anymore questions you may have.

bowser · March 01, 2012, 10:12

Moses, did the toolshop run mold flow/warp analysis before cutting steel? Some times where the cavity is gated and the type of gate will have an effect on how the part warps, or doesn't warp. Just wondering how the mold is set up. Is the inside of the mag body on a slide, or part of the core? Processing the mold is a pain, lots of variables that can be tweaked for both better and worse results.

WarriorPoet · March 01, 2012, 11:50

Ehhhhhhhh........

I think Moses has been spending the last 2-3 months just tweaking the location of his logo on the mags in order to achieve the maximum marketing/tacticool/bling effect.

j/k!

-WP

**moses** · March 02, 2012, 11:45

Bowser, I really have no idea what the mold company did as far as them running "mold flow/warp analysis" I am new to the mold making process and they have been in business for 40 years so I left that kind of stuff to them.
I do know that they talked about the best place to put the gate and they made the gate channel a certain way for best results.
I do know the gate is in a similar location as the gate on a Magpul 308 mag.

Pretty sure that the inside of the body is on a core because we have already had 2 cores made and are probably looking at making a third core right now, to get this bowing in problem solved.
I do know that there are slides in the mold but I don't think they have to do with the inside of the mag body but more with the top of the mag around the feed lips area, I think the slides come in contact with the core to shut off the top of the mold.

I'm not really hip to all the mold lingo yet but I am learning, so if something I wrote sounds weird that's why.

Thanks for all the encouragement guys!!!

**hkshooter** · March 02, 2012, 12:18

Hey, Moses. I wasn't to far from you a few short weeks ago. Had to spend a few day at Penske in Mooresville.

**preston1026** · March 14, 2012, 14:01

Johnny - im sure you have thought about it but whats your thoughts on having some of the moses mags cut with the square hole for the scar mag catch? As expensive as scar mags are I imagine it would be a hit. Then someone could dremel of file off the front beak and fine tune. It would be worth it for weight and $ savings.

**moses** · March 14, 2012, 20:57

If the SCAR mag situation is still like it is now when I get the moses mags completed I will probably make a dedicated SCAR mag.

That being said pretty sure the standard moses mag should be able to be converted to fit the SCAR until then.

Cool HKshooter you should have let me know!

seabee-sw · March 15, 2012, 16:56

I know I'm late to party but sign me up for some as well. At least 5, maybe 10 or more.

**TFA303** · March 17, 2012, 03:19

I just find the whole process fascinating, both from a technical and business point of view, and I'm honored that Moses has let us peek in the window.

Powerslave · March 26, 2012, 16:58

Just reading up on the progress and renewing my subscription.

I'm still on for the 4 or 5 mags when they are finished.

Moses,
Thanks for taking the time to get it right!!!

GreySmoke · March 26, 2012, 17:04

Sorry I lost interest~!
A year is a bit too long

Dopavash · March 26, 2012, 18:26

Can't rush Genius.

DYNOMIKE · March 26, 2012, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreySmoke

Sorry I lost interest~!
A year is a bit too long

Move along newb, with 3 whole posts on the files you clearly don't know how big a deal this is.. How much exactly of your OWN $$ and time do you have in this venture?? Since I already know the answer and your opinion means absolutely NOTHING mebe you should have saved your thought and your 3'rd post for something somewhat relevant and shared it on ARF...

Johnny is a CLASS act and will get this done..
Those of us that have been here awhile respect his effort and financial outlay (which I happen to know is significant) will patiently await the product..

GreySmoke · March 26, 2012, 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by DYNOMIKE

Move along newb, with 3 whole posts on the files you clearly don't know how big a deal this is.. How much exactly of your OWN $$ and time do you have in this venture?? Since I already know the answer and your opinion means absolutely NOTHING mebe you should have saved your thought and your 3'rd post for something somewhat relevant and shared it on ARF...

Johnny is a CLASS act and will get this done..
Those of us that have been here awhile respect his effort and financial outlay (which I happen to know is significant) will patiently await the product..

Not to disparage the effort. I'm am sure that he is a person to be respected. I just lost interest. My Metal Metrics work fine. Your comments are the reason I don't post much on this board and only have 3, now 4 posts. True I am no FAL expert, so I read and listen much more than comment. So don't worry my patient friend you wont read much from me again.

**L Haney** · March 26, 2012, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreySmoke

Your comments are the reason I don't post much on this board ...

Not used to be being spoken to like an adult? This place offers education in many areas.

View Poll Results: How many polymer US made FAL mags would you buy?
I would buy one	27	4.11%
I would buy two	117	17.81%
I would buy five	279	42.47%
I would buy ten	234	35.62%
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January 31, 2012, 15:34	#766
Mason Registered FALaholic #: 18674 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 2,073	Patiently waiting for my 5, too. Keep up the good work, Johnny! __________________ "The only honorable response to violence is counter-violence." To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth, Jeff Cooper

February 10, 2012, 17:46	#767
LaConservationist IN DENIAL NOT ADDICTED!! Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 42319 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Louisiana Bayous! Posts: 6,376	OK Johnny.....I slid into the woods for almost 3 months, I buried myself into the swamps and swore I would stay until my MOSES MAGS were completed! Well I have escaped the mud and the muck........PLEASE don't make me go back now........if you knew how bad these kajun blood sucking man eating skeeters were in these parts you would make sure I receive my MOSES MAGS........SOOOOOOOOOOONNNNN OK well just wanted to say hello, check in and see how the progress is going......Please be sure to tell James and Mel I said hello!!!! Peace out!!! LaC __________________ In MEMORY of Roger "DUNKRD" Dunkelbarger September 13, 1943 - May 09, 2010 "Any one who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

February 15, 2012, 05:54	#769
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,469	Still working on the molds, just trying to get everything perfect or as perfect as they can possibly be. Thanks for the interest and support from everyone. Don't have a timeline as to when they will be for sale yet but we are a lot closer than we were 6 months ago. Soon as I have a good idea of when they will be ready I will post here. Thanks __________________ . Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2013, March 9th, May 26th(Sunday), Sept. 14th & Nov. 9th AKA "8.47"

February 15, 2012, 05:59	#770
L Haney Seriously Ponderin' Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 20446 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NW Ga Posts: 8,349	Hey, head banger! You gonna' be able to shoot with us April 7th? Lowell __________________ “I am quite sure I do not get what is so funny about my RO style." stimpsonjcat You'd have to be there, and if you ain't it's your loss.

January 27, 2012, 13:13	#761
zetabird Registered FALaholic #: 64873 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Nappanee in Posts: 206	yup lol i kinda figured they weren't available yet, and i have no doubt that the first 2000 are prolly called for, but for what i see so far i will wait patently for a few of these mags.

January 27, 2012, 13:33	#762
croftonaviation Member Contributor Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 64580 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: hopkinsville ky Posts: 285	Just curious any chance of an inch pattern magazine? Seems like the l1a1 isn't feeling the mag love anywhere. Thanks

January 31, 2012, 14:07	#765
Redneck Rob Registered FALaholic #: 21238 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Meridian, Mississippi Posts: 243	I'm still game for five. I think they will be worth the wait.

February 13, 2012, 19:09	#768
rocky321 Registered FALaholic #: 64792 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: FL Posts: 38

February 16, 2012, 04:43	#771
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,469	I am planning on it!!! And I am sure I will be using some of my moses mags too!!!! __________________ . Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2013, March 9th, May 26th(Sunday), Sept. 14th & Nov. 9th AKA "8.47"

February 16, 2012, 15:43	#772
jjjxlr8 Registered FALaholic #: 34903 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 110	Hi Johnny - I see you're unable to accept PMs right now, did you get my email last week? Thanks, Jeremy @ jjjxlr8@yahoo.com

February 17, 2012, 02:30	#773
Czechsix Registered FALaholic #: 17293 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kookifornia Posts: 536	reeeessssuuuuubbbb post.....

February 23, 2012, 17:28	#777
JKJ1911 Registered FALaholic #: 32177 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 259	Are there pics up of the prototype? In a rifle perhaps? JKJ disregard, found them. Last edited by JKJ1911; February 23, 2012 at 17:44.

February 23, 2012, 17:39	#778
hkshooter Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 5391 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,780	By Moses' own words the mags are working perfectly. Hard to imagine how they can be made any better than that. The whole thing reminds me of the Shrike. Difference is that Moses will actually eventually produce a retail product that works and that people can afford.

February 23, 2012, 17:45	#779
rocky321 Registered FALaholic #: 64792 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: FL Posts: 38	All good points!

February 23, 2012, 20:52	#780
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,469	I have videos posted here and on YouTube of the mags working in various FAL's. The "perfecting" that I speak of is more of the process of how they are made. We are modifying the molds so that the mags will be 100% workable right out of the mold. Right now we are having to do secondary steps after the mags are made to get them to the correct dimensions due to the fact that polymers shrink, expand, bow and warp and don't hold the exact dimensions they are made to. For example if the inside of the mag needs to be say .900 but when it is taken out of the mold and cools it bows in to say .860 in several spots, that is a problem because then it binds on the rounds in the mag. So we adjust the mold so it is actually wider than we want it in those particular areas and when the mag cools it bows in to the dimension we want .900. This is a very tedious task as it is kinda a trial and error process, and every change to the steel mold is a long and dawn out process, and not cheap either. Right now we are having to use a type of mandrel that we place each mag body on as it comes off the mold or place spacers inside the mag body and anneal it to get it to the correct dimension, both of these processes are too time consuming and not cost effective. We are making one change at a time because sometimes the one change will effect something else and then we have to account for that. With each change to the mold taking weeks to complete I think you can see why it is taking the amount of time it is. I hope this offers some insight to everyone eagerly awaiting the moses mags. I am just determined to do whatever it takes to get this 100% right before selling the mags to the public. Feel free to ask anymore questions you may have. __________________ . Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2013, March 9th, May 26th(Sunday), Sept. 14th & Nov. 9th AKA "8.47"

February 23, 2012, 22:20	#782
TerryN Registered FALaholic #: 55 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 1,564	Personally, I support Moses in his desire to have the finished product as close to perfect as it can be. If it takes until next week or next year, I'll still support him, and buy his products. I'd prefer to wait for a near-perfect product rather than have him rush a 'good enough' product to market. As we've seen with DSA's crappy mags and many other 'good enough' products, perfection takes time - and money. Let's see, a fully functional mag, made by a FAL Filer, that counts as 3 922r compliance parts - what's not to like? __________________ Sic Semper Tyrannis! Molon Labe!

February 24, 2012, 00:23	#783
shortround Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 1503 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Southeast, MI, USA Posts: 2,798	Moses, I haven't kept up with all 20 pages of this thread, but have you checked the mags to see if they will work with the Keltec RFB? There is a pretty good potential for sales if they work as well as surplus mags in the RFB. __________________ Nostalgia: It's just not what it used to be. I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. Someone asked if I was a procrastinator and I told them I wasn't sure but I'd get back with them tomorrow.

February 24, 2012, 06:02	#784
rocky321 Registered FALaholic #: 64792 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: FL Posts: 38	Enough said!

February 24, 2012, 10:24	#785
hkshooter Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 5391 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,780	Awesome reply and info, Moses!

March 01, 2012, 10:12	#787
bowser Registered FALaholic #: 13500 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ypsilanti Michigan Posts: 188	Moses, did the toolshop run mold flow/warp analysis before cutting steel? Some times where the cavity is gated and the type of gate will have an effect on how the part warps, or doesn't warp. Just wondering how the mold is set up. Is the inside of the mag body on a slide, or part of the core? Processing the mold is a pain, lots of variables that can be tweaked for both better and worse results. __________________ Pistols are for surprises. If you know there's going to be a problem, bring your rifle.

March 01, 2012, 11:50	#788
WarriorPoet Registered FALaholic #: 10664 Join Date: May 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,577	Ehhhhhhhh........ I think Moses has been spending the last 2-3 months just tweaking the location of his logo on the mags in order to achieve the maximum marketing/tacticool/bling effect. j/k! -WP __________________ The sword that destroys evil is the life-giving sword. - Samurai proverb

March 02, 2012, 11:45	#789
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,469	Bowser, I really have no idea what the mold company did as far as them running "mold flow/warp analysis" I am new to the mold making process and they have been in business for 40 years so I left that kind of stuff to them. I do know that they talked about the best place to put the gate and they made the gate channel a certain way for best results. I do know the gate is in a similar location as the gate on a Magpul 308 mag. Pretty sure that the inside of the body is on a core because we have already had 2 cores made and are probably looking at making a third core right now, to get this bowing in problem solved. I do know that there are slides in the mold but I don't think they have to do with the inside of the mag body but more with the top of the mag around the feed lips area, I think the slides come in contact with the core to shut off the top of the mold. I'm not really hip to all the mold lingo yet but I am learning, so if something I wrote sounds weird that's why. Thanks for all the encouragement guys!!! __________________ . Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2013, March 9th, May 26th(Sunday), Sept. 14th & Nov. 9th AKA "8.47"

March 02, 2012, 12:18	#790
hkshooter Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 5391 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,780	Hey, Moses. I wasn't to far from you a few short weeks ago. Had to spend a few day at Penske in Mooresville.

March 14, 2012, 14:01	#791
preston1026 Go Seminoles! Contributor FALaholic #: 38005 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,662	Johnny - im sure you have thought about it but whats your thoughts on having some of the moses mags cut with the square hole for the scar mag catch? As expensive as scar mags are I imagine it would be a hit. Then someone could dremel of file off the front beak and fine tune. It would be worth it for weight and $ savings.

March 14, 2012, 20:57	#792
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,469	If the SCAR mag situation is still like it is now when I get the moses mags completed I will probably make a dedicated SCAR mag. That being said pretty sure the standard moses mag should be able to be converted to fit the SCAR until then. Cool HKshooter you should have let me know! __________________ . Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2013, March 9th, May 26th(Sunday), Sept. 14th & Nov. 9th AKA "8.47"

March 15, 2012, 16:56	#793
seabee-sw Registered FALaholic #: 22372 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 32	I know I'm late to party but sign me up for some as well. At least 5, maybe 10 or more.

March 17, 2012, 03:19	#794
TFA303 Veteran Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 1300 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Northern AL Posts: 1,344	I just find the whole process fascinating, both from a technical and business point of view, and I'm honored that Moses has let us peek in the window. __________________ There is a fine line between a "hobby" and a "mental disorder".

March 26, 2012, 16:58	#795
Powerslave Registered FALaholic #: 61755 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 31	Just reading up on the progress and renewing my subscription. I'm still on for the 4 or 5 mags when they are finished. Moses, Thanks for taking the time to get it right!!!

March 26, 2012, 17:04	#796
GreySmoke Registered FALaholic #: 64578 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4	Sorry I lost interest~! A year is a bit too long

March 26, 2012, 18:26	#797
Dopavash Registered FALaholic #: 44433 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Central Texas Posts: 954	Can't rush Genius.

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