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Old February 08, 2010, 13:47   #1
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Question about SBR

OK, this is probably a stupid question, but I'm going to ask it anyway (showing my ignorance).

Is it legal to completely remove the buttstock from a registered SBR? I have a MP5K clone that has a folding stock that I plan on SBR'ing and I am wondering if it is possible to switch back and forth between the folder and an endcap?
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Old February 08, 2010, 14:08   #2
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as long as you have the tax stamp, and it can be put back to original configuration, i believe it's fine. i could be wrong, but believe this is the case.
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Old February 08, 2010, 15:50   #3
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(8) The term “short-barreled rifle” means a rifle having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length and any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if such weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches.


I don't see a problem in either configuration as long as you have the tax stamp.
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Old February 09, 2010, 13:25   #4
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Wouldn't removing the buttstock make it an AOW? I don't know if that'd be covered by the stamp for the SBR. I have no real knowledge of these issues, just what I've read on the innanet.....
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Old February 09, 2010, 20:52   #5
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Wouldn't removing the buttstock make it an AOW? I don't know if that'd be covered by the stamp for the SBR. I have no real knowledge of these issues, just what I've read on the innanet.....
Nope, Once an SBR - always an SBR , short of asking it to be removed from the registry.

Now, go the other way take a receiver that's never had a stock and have the AOW paperwork for you pistol gripped wonder pistol - if you put a butt stock on it you just created a SBR and owe a $200 tax

People who buy 12 ga AOW - then think they can mount a stock to save 195 in tax just don't get it - now they owe 205 in tax but have only paid for 5 of it.

And taking the stock back off to but the pistol grip back on doesn't erase the tax violation.
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Nope, Once an SBR - always an SBR , short of asking it to be removed from the registry.

Now, go the other way take a receiver that's never had a stock and have the AOW paperwork for you pistol gripped wonder pistol - if you put a butt stock on it you just created a SBR and owe a $200 tax

People who buy 12 ga AOW - then think they can mount a stock to save 195 in tax just don't get it - now they owe 205 in tax but have only paid for 5 of it.

And taking the stock back off to but the pistol grip back on doesn't erase the tax violation.
Thanks for clarifying that. I learn something every day on here!
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But building an 11" pistol on an FAL receiver, as long as there is no forward vertical grip should be legal. When Form 1 comes back a buttstock can be purchased and attached. Am I right? Sure hope so.
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Old February 14, 2010, 11:04   #8
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Your right - lots of people do a pistol build then form 1 to SBR then attach stock - great way to do so for a AMD-65 build - the FAL with the recoil spring out the back side may be another matter unless doing a para setup.
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Old February 15, 2010, 12:09   #9
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Art--I went with Falcon Arms alloy para lower and their bolt carrier/spring setup. Haven't gotten it up and running yet, but soon.
If the efficiency of this place would improve, I'd post a pic, since I paid my contributor dues long ago, but I guess we have to live with what we have.
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