Pistol carry when using Deuce gear???

Deltaten · January 09, 2010, 16:04

Ok fellas; here's the question/problem.....When saddled up with either LC-2 harness and/or Alice pack, what do you do for pistol holster???

I find leg/thigh straps and holster dropped from belt to be cumbersome and restricting.
When I make room on the belt; either there's no way to access or things keep banging into the grip. I don't see a way to use a shoulder holster and avoid rifle butts and harness hangups.

Nearest thing I can figger is using the UM holster somehow mounted to the off-side LC-2 shoulder strap.
ANyone else do this; or have a better way???

Off to the storage tubs ta see what might work out

TIA,
Paul

Alien1 · January 09, 2010, 16:18

Isnt it amazing how nothing really works well with an ALICE pack, with that said the only way I've ever used is with the aforementioned drop thigh leg holster, not attached to the web pistol belt of old but attached to the pants belt. Alot would have to do with size of your sidearm also. Being military I was restricted to using the long/heavy useless M9/shitretta 92. If you were toting something smaller a molle holster at an angle on the weak hand side of the LC-2 in a modified crossdraw works well. The M9/shitretta 92 is too heavy for this.

chet · January 09, 2010, 19:26

For me, offside/crossdraw secondary weapons are non starter for deuce gear. Usually, you get a system that makes drawing with either hand difficult and drawing from the prone dang near impossible.

I do think a flap holster is a good, inexpensive way to go if you plan on using your gear in the dirt and it pretty much has one "right" place on an LC-2 belt. Granted, it's not IPSC fast but, you say you can't access it from there. How come exactly?

A rigger made a short drop tab for me once that lowered a knife scabbard below the edge of my cami blouse when hung from my web belt. It works equally well for an M92 flap holster. Take about a foot long piece of 2" strap and sew two 3" loops in each end and then fold them up at 45 degree angles.

While this will drop it off your deuce gear belt and onto your trouser belt, it will also be tempting to fill that space on your deuce gear belt again. That will make the pistol hard to get to again.

Ever consider ditching the LC 2 and going to a split system: battle belt and chest harness? Solves a lot of issues.

brownknees · January 09, 2010, 19:32

Did you see the mod I made to my knife sheath at the pool?

Somewhere between an on the belt & a full drop type strap. Maybe that would work for pistol as well?

I just made a short double length of web strap, just long enough to wap round the pistol belt on the deuce rig, then left enough to take 4 chicago screws into the original loop. To use without the deuce just remove the screws.

I'm not sure if it'd work for a pistol as well as it did for the knife because of the extra weight & different shape.

0302 · January 10, 2010, 20:28

i just attach the military bianchi to the pack waist belt or to the side of the pack - the bianchi holster has the quick detach capability - works like a charm

i usually wore the alice pack over the war belt - harness - butpack - holster - very uncomfortable but standard fo usmc - of course ya cant use the alice pack belt and your shoulders go numb...can't have it all

**Hot Diggity** · January 11, 2010, 22:39

Got an LBV in your tubs? Much more comfortable than the LC-2 harness, has lots of storage space, different attachments, and you can attach an M12 holster to either the upper or lower front straps (right or left) behind the buckles and it's right there where you can easily access it. (I just dragged everything out of my tubs and tried it, since I usually have the M12 attached to the loops on the flak vest, but it works)

If all else fails, my favorite option with the M9 was to just stick it in my right front trouser pocket with the green nylon GI pistol lanyard around my neck and shoulder. (around base camp, beer tent, won't fall into the latrine, good security)

HD

January 09, 2010, 16:04	#1
Deltaten Registered FALaholic #: 124 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lancaster, PA USA Posts: 8,498	Pistol carry when using Deuce gear??? Ok fellas; here's the question/problem.....When saddled up with either LC-2 harness and/or Alice pack, what do you do for pistol holster??? I find leg/thigh straps and holster dropped from belt to be cumbersome and restricting. When I make room on the belt; either there's no way to access or things keep banging into the grip. I don't see a way to use a shoulder holster and avoid rifle butts and harness hangups. Nearest thing I can figger is using the UM holster somehow mounted to the off-side LC-2 shoulder strap. ANyone else do this; or have a better way??? Off to the storage tubs ta see what might work out TIA, Paul __________________ All or Nothing! Senator McCarthy was right! and as always......FYB!

January 09, 2010, 16:18	#2
Alien1 Registered FALaholic #: 50786 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Warm climates Posts: 413	Isnt it amazing how nothing really works well with an ALICE pack, with that said the only way I've ever used is with the aforementioned drop thigh leg holster, not attached to the web pistol belt of old but attached to the pants belt. Alot would have to do with size of your sidearm also. Being military I was restricted to using the long/heavy useless M9/shitretta 92. If you were toting something smaller a molle holster at an angle on the weak hand side of the LC-2 in a modified crossdraw works well. The M9/shitretta 92 is too heavy for this. __________________ "Well, boys, the've got us surrounded.... the bastards can't get away now!" -- Chesty Puller heheheheheh Free GGiilliiee Foundation :biggrin: http://signatures.myarmedforces.com/..._signature.png

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January 09, 2010, 19:32	#4
brownknees Registered FALaholic #: 14917 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: mid atlantic Posts: 12,015	Did you see the mod I made to my knife sheath at the pool? Somewhere between an on the belt & a full drop type strap. Maybe that would work for pistol as well? I just made a short double length of web strap, just long enough to wap round the pistol belt on the deuce rig, then left enough to take 4 chicago screws into the original loop. To use without the deuce just remove the screws. I'm not sure if it'd work for a pistol as well as it did for the knife because of the extra weight & different shape.

January 10, 2010, 20:28	#5
0302 Registered FALaholic #: 348 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 3,688	i just attach the military bianchi to the pack waist belt or to the side of the pack - the bianchi holster has the quick detach capability - works like a charm i usually wore the alice pack over the war belt - harness - butpack - holster - very uncomfortable but standard fo usmc - of course ya cant use the alice pack belt and your shoulders go numb...can't have it all

January 11, 2010, 22:39	#6
Hot Diggity Senior Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 12470 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Pole Cat Hollow, NC Posts: 807	Got an LBV in your tubs? Much more comfortable than the LC-2 harness, has lots of storage space, different attachments, and you can attach an M12 holster to either the upper or lower front straps (right or left) behind the buckles and it's right there where you can easily access it. (I just dragged everything out of my tubs and tried it, since I usually have the M12 attached to the loops on the flak vest, but it works) If all else fails, my favorite option with the M9 was to just stick it in my right front trouser pocket with the green nylon GI pistol lanyard around my neck and shoulder. (around base camp, beer tent, won't fall into the latrine, good security) HD