Picture from Iraq, count the weapons you'd want

Manedwolf · January 01, 2010, 13:48

I see a lot I'd want. I hope the classics don't get destroyed.

**JohnnyMac** · January 01, 2010, 14:11

Mausers
Enfields
French Gras?
FAL's
Beretta SMG
PKM
MG3
M-79 Blooper
SA-7 (or possibly SA-14) Tube and grip-stock
RPG's
60mm mortar tube
Air-rifles
Tabuk (Iraqi DMR)

What did I miss?

JMc

**bykerhd** · January 01, 2010, 15:01

I wouldn't hold out any hope for ANY of those guns, even the air rifles, to be spared destruction. It's likely thought to be better PR to destroy all the weapons that are captured.
It makes a bigger pile and pyre.

BlasterLP · January 01, 2010, 15:11

chinese pellet gun
single shot shotgun
Ppsh 41's

rusty G3 barrels sticking out there in the lower LH corner

check out those RPG launchers....some are brand new!!

I bet they get ran over and burned or something to that effect like they did to the stuff up at Taji.

frtyfivsevnty · January 01, 2010, 16:26

1919,SKS

gunner30 · January 01, 2010, 20:14

I call dibs on the Beretta SMG's. Look on the bright side, these are all weapons that won't be shooting at our soldiers anymore

nwobhm · January 01, 2010, 20:36

2 left of grenade launcher looks to be an RWS or Weirach pellet rifle.

Outlaw Patriot · January 01, 2010, 21:52

Some of that stuff def doesn't look shootable.

Also, what is the stockless thing cuddled up next to the para fal just to the right of the right soldier?

**Fred-in-PA** · January 02, 2010, 07:40

The condition of most of these firearms reminds me of the media photographs that are shown after the "local" gun buy-back program.

RG Coburn · January 02, 2010, 09:52

Okay...I'll take the two FAL Paras,one of the PKMs,the Yugo underfolder underneath the E german no.5549,the undefolder next to no.3484,and the PSL next to the PPSH41s.

Judging by the way they're sorting them,I'd guess they are going to recycle some of them. The US govt. just produced a rebuild manual for AK's,and by the way they are piling them,they might soldier on.

Were I president,my first order would be to allow troops to bring back war trophies. FA included. Just pay the tax stamp.

renaissance_warrior · January 02, 2010, 13:26

The bottom rhs appears to be an 1886 Lebel rifle in mint shape.

It does look like an international garage sale in Karachi.

What are the double-barreled AA intems next to the rpg tubes?

brownknees · January 02, 2010, 14:28

I'll take 'em all.

Maybe after I figure out what the wogs didn't break, bodge, bugger or butcher I can build one or two working somethings out of the lot of them.

**kev** · January 02, 2010, 15:38

Yep, the Beretta 12's are about the only things in there that would interest me. Maybe a PKM just because. It's a strange mix of weapons.

Gazz · January 02, 2010, 16:11

I think the one that you think is a Lebel is Steyr M95 straight pull rifle.

Outlaw Patriot · January 02, 2010, 17:57

I can't beleive some of you guys would pass on all the awesome junk there.

I'd take the recoilless rifles and 20mms just to mount up and look cool in my front yard, or living room perhaps, hmmm.

I'd take the berettas, the big guns, and rpgs, the pkms and all the aks, the ppsh's, and I might even dig through the piles of rust to see if theres an in teresting conversation piece.

Alien1 · January 02, 2010, 18:25

Missed the SVD Dragunov above the berrettas just to the right of the leftmost soldier. Id take it.

Squint · January 03, 2010, 07:25

I like the two GSH-23 auto cannons on the right side of the photo. If I could just get a MiG-23 or Mi-24 to mount them on....

**Mebsuta** · January 03, 2010, 07:34

Teh Mausers and Enfields are keepers. The rest whatever.

**Story** · January 03, 2010, 08:38

Quote:

Originally posted by RG Coburn
Were I president,my first order would be to allow troops to bring back war trophies. FA included. Just pay the tax stamp.

That'll happen when

The K98 Model 1939 ( dated 1940, carried alot but from the bore, shot very little) that I hand-carried home for the BN museum had to be demilled : chamber and muzzle welded up.

Tried to get a Mountain Howitzer back, but didn't have enough time.

RG Coburn · January 03, 2010, 08:49

That is either Bush or hussein's fault. They trust people to drive all over in three ton vehicles,all you need is the license.They trust you to carry FA stuff ,as long as you are fighting for their benefit.
I see no reason not to trust honorably discharged troops from bringing toys back.Our dads did in WW2,and greater majority of them turned out fine.

justashooter · January 03, 2010, 14:24

DP-28 to the right of the para FAL to the right of the grunt.

**xtremerange** · January 03, 2010, 15:48

Quote:

Originally posted by Story

That'll happen when

Been there.

Hungover with a bunch of Norwegians on our way back north by Sunday evening.

They though it was funny. I just wanted water and lunch.

Dirt1042 · January 03, 2010, 19:16

All I can see is a blue question mark. But from reading the posts, I think I've seen that pic posted here before.

blackmatt · January 04, 2010, 14:30

Photo was posted here around year ago. Interesting because it shows the diversity of weapons floating around Iraq. Marine in photo tells me it is in Al Anbar. I pretty sure it was taken at Al Asad AB, probably circa 2008. My guess is that they are cleaning out the conex where siezed weapons are stored.

ice9 · January 06, 2010, 15:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Gazz
I think the one that you think is a Lebel is Steyr M95 straight pull rifle.

This. Right next to the M-79 with no trigger guard.

Gazz · January 06, 2010, 18:42

The one immediately to the left of the M-79? It has a trigger guard (I get it now - the M79 doesn't have a trigger guard!) as well as a magazine box that extends beneath the stock. It also has the odd cocking knob/hook thing and the stacking post that the Steyr had. I tried to upload some picture of a Steyr rifle that I sold earlier this year to photobucket but my email has changed since I last used it and I can't. Never cared much for that site but I guess it is useful when the forum you have been a member of for over 8 years will not allow you to upload pictures.
That said, I think I would like one of the MG42s

Headhunter11 · January 07, 2010, 16:09

I see a Stinger Missle next to the M79 ,glad they captured that wouldn't want any of our men getting shot out of the sky.

Manedwolf · January 11, 2010, 08:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Headhunter11
I see a Stinger Missle next to the M79 ,glad they captured that wouldn't want any of our men getting shot out of the sky.

Stingers are IFF chipped.

This was found out the hard way by Palis when they tried to fire one they stole at an Israeli helicopter, and it took out one of their own gun emplacements instead.

Quote:

“We were disappointed by them, and they were found to have been useless,” a Hamas source said.

The source said Hamas smuggled four Stinger systems in 2008. The source said the Hamas military deployed the Stingers against Israel Air Force AH-64 Apache attack helicopters during strike missions in the northern Gaza Strip.

“Our gunners couldn’t fire the weapon,” the source recalled. “A notice came up on the display saying ‘friendly aircraft.’”

Another Hamas source said gunners deployed Stinger along with heavy machine guns in attacks on Israeli helicopters during the war in the Gaza Strip. The source said one Stinger surface-to-air missile was launched, but the projectile veered off course and struck a Hamas gunner squad.

“The Stinger was drawn by the heat of our guns rather than the engines of the Israeli helicopters,” the source said. “At that point, we stopped using this weapon.”

Longshaor · January 19, 2010, 20:33

I wonder how much the cost of operations in Iraq and Afganistan could be offset by the US government reselling all the guns they've captured on the US market? Well, maybe not the Stingers, but hey, that pile in the pic's gotta be worth a few hundred thousand!

RG Coburn · January 19, 2010, 21:32

Probably not that much. It would be nice though.

January 01, 2010, 13:48	#1
Manedwolf Registered FALaholic #: 35047 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 4,850	Picture from Iraq, count the weapons you'd want I see a lot I'd want. I hope the classics don't get destroyed. __________________ "Stay in school, work hard, stay out of trouble and when you grow up, you can pay for those who didn't."

January 01, 2010, 16:26	#5
frtyfivsevnty Registered FALaholic #: 6367 Join Date: May 2002 Location: ny Posts: 2,250	1919,SKS __________________ "I'd like to buy your deadliest gun please."-Homer Simpson

January 01, 2010, 20:14	#6
gunner30 Registered FALaholic #: 22242 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 2,278	I call dibs on the Beretta SMG's. Look on the bright side, these are all weapons that won't be shooting at our soldiers anymore __________________ Lighten up Francis

January 02, 2010, 07:40	#9
Fred-in-PA Member Contributor FALaholic #: 19037 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 156	The condition of most of these firearms reminds me of the media photographs that are shown after the "local" gun buy-back program. __________________ "Be the Bullet"

January 02, 2010, 13:26	#11
renaissance_warrior Registered FALaholic #: 13689 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 8,558	The bottom rhs appears to be an 1886 Lebel rifle in mint shape. It does look like an international garage sale in Karachi. What are the double-barreled AA intems next to the rpg tubes? __________________ "In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." - Mark Twain “The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself.” - John Adams "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome becomes bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." ~ Cicero , 55 BC ~

January 01, 2010, 14:11	#2
JohnnyMac Veteran Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 365 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Commonwealth of Virginia, CSA Posts: 1,776	Mausers Enfields French Gras? FAL's Beretta SMG PKM MG3 M-79 Blooper SA-7 (or possibly SA-14) Tube and grip-stock RPG's 60mm mortar tube Air-rifles Tabuk (Iraqi DMR) What did I miss? JMc

January 01, 2010, 15:01	#3
bykerhd Dinosaur Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2798 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Vermont area Posts: 13,262	I wouldn't hold out any hope for ANY of those guns, even the air rifles, to be spared destruction. It's likely thought to be better PR to destroy all the weapons that are captured. It makes a bigger pile and pyre.

January 01, 2010, 15:11	#4
BlasterLP Registered FALaholic #: 2081 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kansas but now Iraq, wtf was I thinking?? Posts: 950	chinese pellet gun single shot shotgun Ppsh 41's rusty G3 barrels sticking out there in the lower LH corner check out those RPG launchers....some are brand new!! I bet they get ran over and burned or something to that effect like they did to the stuff up at Taji.

January 01, 2010, 20:36	#7
nwobhm ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ FALaholic #: 9580 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 5,925	2 left of grenade launcher looks to be an RWS or Weirach pellet rifle.

January 01, 2010, 21:52	#8
Outlaw Patriot Registered FALaholic #: 33905 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,980	Some of that stuff def doesn't look shootable. Also, what is the stockless thing cuddled up next to the para fal just to the right of the right soldier?

January 02, 2010, 09:52	#10
RG Coburn Registered FALaholic #: 27406 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10,890	Okay...I'll take the two FAL Paras,one of the PKMs,the Yugo underfolder underneath the E german no.5549,the undefolder next to no.3484,and the PSL next to the PPSH41s. Judging by the way they're sorting them,I'd guess they are going to recycle some of them. The US govt. just produced a rebuild manual for AK's,and by the way they are piling them,they might soldier on. Were I president,my first order would be to allow troops to bring back war trophies. FA included. Just pay the tax stamp.

January 02, 2010, 14:28	#12
brownknees Registered FALaholic #: 14917 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: mid atlantic Posts: 12,015	I'll take 'em all. Maybe after I figure out what the wogs didn't break, bodge, bugger or butcher I can build one or two working somethings out of the lot of them.

January 02, 2010, 15:38	#13
kev Curio & Relic Contributor FALaholic #: 71 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Indiana and various others Posts: 3,777	Yep, the Beretta 12's are about the only things in there that would interest me. Maybe a PKM just because. It's a strange mix of weapons. __________________ Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. RUE?

January 02, 2010, 16:11	#14
Gazz Registered FALaholic #: 15159 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NH Posts: 1,937	I think the one that you think is a Lebel is Steyr M95 straight pull rifle. __________________ Gazz

January 02, 2010, 17:57	#15
Outlaw Patriot Registered FALaholic #: 33905 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,980	I can't beleive some of you guys would pass on all the awesome junk there. I'd take the recoilless rifles and 20mms just to mount up and look cool in my front yard, or living room perhaps, hmmm. I'd take the berettas, the big guns, and rpgs, the pkms and all the aks, the ppsh's, and I might even dig through the piles of rust to see if theres an in teresting conversation piece.

January 02, 2010, 18:25	#16
Alien1 Registered FALaholic #: 50786 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Warm climates Posts: 413	Missed the SVD Dragunov above the berrettas just to the right of the leftmost soldier. Id take it. __________________ "Well, boys, the've got us surrounded.... the bastards can't get away now!" -- Chesty Puller heheheheheh Free GGiilliiee Foundation :biggrin: http://signatures.myarmedforces.com/..._signature.png

January 03, 2010, 07:25	#17
Squint Registered FALaholic #: 95 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Goofy part of Virginia Posts: 1,008	I like the two GSH-23 auto cannons on the right side of the photo. If I could just get a MiG-23 or Mi-24 to mount them on.... __________________ http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member5581.png

January 03, 2010, 07:34	#18
Mebsuta Khemi, Stygia Contributor FALaholic #: 4143 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Khemi, Stygia Posts: 6,298	Teh Mausers and Enfields are keepers. The rest whatever.

January 03, 2010, 08:49	#20
RG Coburn Registered FALaholic #: 27406 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10,890	That is either Bush or hussein's fault. They trust people to drive all over in three ton vehicles,all you need is the license.They trust you to carry FA stuff ,as long as you are fighting for their benefit. I see no reason not to trust honorably discharged troops from bringing toys back.Our dads did in WW2,and greater majority of them turned out fine.

January 03, 2010, 14:24	#21
justashooter Registered FALaholic #: 5967 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: york, pa. Posts: 4,503	DP-28 to the right of the para FAL to the right of the grunt. __________________ If the concept of heading on down to the local Home Depot and transforming $100 worth of random pipe bits into a killing machine doesn’t appeal to you, you’re a frikkin' pansy. Also, you’re probably sane and will live significantly longer than I will. Nonetheless you disgust me, and I take comfort in the knowledge that your obituary will be nowhere near as humorous as mine. The next time I hear "THE RANGE IS NOW HOT", it just wont be the same. Max tried another question. "What sort of people live about here?" "In THAT direction," the Jin said, waving its right paw round, "lives a Han: And in THAT direction," waving the other paw, "lives a Ming Hare. Visit either you like: they're both mad." "But I don't want to go among mad people," Max remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Jin: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Max. "You must be," said the Jin, "or you wouldn't have come here."

January 03, 2010, 19:16	#23
Dirt1042 Registered FALaholic #: 21859 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Montana Posts: 3,800	All I can see is a blue question mark. But from reading the posts, I think I've seen that pic posted here before. __________________ ORO Y PLATA! ~Pain By Steel Rain~ R 5/10 2nd Mar Div

January 04, 2010, 14:30	#24
blackmatt Registered FALaholic #: 20096 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 636	Photo was posted here around year ago. Interesting because it shows the diversity of weapons floating around Iraq. Marine in photo tells me it is in Al Anbar. I pretty sure it was taken at Al Asad AB, probably circa 2008. My guess is that they are cleaning out the conex where siezed weapons are stored.

January 06, 2010, 18:42	#26
Gazz Registered FALaholic #: 15159 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NH Posts: 1,937	The one immediately to the left of the M-79? It has a trigger guard (I get it now - the M79 doesn't have a trigger guard!) as well as a magazine box that extends beneath the stock. It also has the odd cocking knob/hook thing and the stacking post that the Steyr had. I tried to upload some picture of a Steyr rifle that I sold earlier this year to photobucket but my email has changed since I last used it and I can't. Never cared much for that site but I guess it is useful when the forum you have been a member of for over 8 years will not allow you to upload pictures. That said, I think I would like one of the MG42s __________________ Gazz Last edited by Gazz; January 06, 2010 at 20:18.

January 07, 2010, 16:09	#27
Headhunter11 Registered FALaholic #: 33724 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 209	I see a Stinger Missle next to the M79 ,glad they captured that wouldn't want any of our men getting shot out of the sky.

January 19, 2010, 20:33	#29
Longshaor Registered FALaholic #: 51231 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 13	Funny thought... I wonder how much the cost of operations in Iraq and Afganistan could be offset by the US government reselling all the guns they've captured on the US market? Well, maybe not the Stingers, but hey, that pile in the pic's gotta be worth a few hundred thousand!

January 19, 2010, 21:32	#30
RG Coburn Registered FALaholic #: 27406 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10,890	Probably not that much. It would be nice though.

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