OBAMACARE-READ THE BILL!

gunsmoke · June 07, 2009, 13:11

OBAMACARE-READ THE BILL!

http://s7y.us/s7t

garandguy10 · June 07, 2009, 14:37

How about just the highlights [lowlights?] in a nutshell......

Radio · June 07, 2009, 15:25

I gots better things to do. Like waiting for my Welfare check. And free health care!!

gunsmoke · June 07, 2009, 19:49

NUTSHELL:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/23162.html

Radio · June 07, 2009, 21:53

Read just enough to see it's the same old song.

"If the vote were to be held TODAY.........."

Well, it isn't. Gonna be quite some time in fact. There has been talk about ramming this through using certain Congressional rules but even those "in power" say it would be a bad idea that while "on the table" is not very likely to happen. Even those "in power" realize there has got to be some bipartisan agreement and gov't -vs- private industry agreement.

What the final landscape will be is anybody's guess, but it won't be like what you posted up.

--Radio

gunsmoke · June 07, 2009, 23:15

Of course any word of any piece of legislation can be changed at any time. Some people are lazy can't or don't want to think for themselves. I'm not psychic nor do I claim to be, but if you want to know what the goals are they can generally be found in the original draft of the legislation.

If you're not interested, don't care or want the CHRIS MATTHEWS/KEITH OLBERMANN version of the truth, that is entirely up to you!

V guy · June 08, 2009, 10:27

On Friday, commie Senator Bernie Sanders was interviewed by Laura Ingraham.
He was shouting that there is no bill and was no bill and no bill would likely even be printed before August at the earliest.

I am happy to see that you cannot trust a lying commie anytime, anyday, anywhere.

The final bill wil be "speed read" and no one will ever know what is in the bill until weeks later.

Radio · June 08, 2009, 16:50

Let's just say I'm "in the health care industry" and it is VERY likely there won't be any bill until at LEAST August. I will predict that whatever it is will not get rammed through but will have MUCH comment from MANY sources including Conservatives, drug companies and private insurers such as Humana and BCBS etc.

--Radio

gunsmoke · June 08, 2009, 18:23

Largely BS. The private insurers aren't going to have ANY influence whatsoever, they may have a lot to say but no one is lisenting. That is largely because of the rationing and other games they have played as an industry over the years to keep collecting premiums and avoid paying benefit.

Providers and consumers have both come to see them as the enemy and just like the UNIONS vs. the automakers, nobody be cryin for no automakers.

Providers with a national presence and those with a regional presence are trying at this very moment to carve up the country to get their slice of the pie and the salaried "DOCTORS" who work for them are touting LOUDLY the "BENEFITS" of a single-payer system.

The game is to ELIMINATE the private insurers, not outlaw them, rather render them redundant. Like taking a fish out of water.

The private insurers are the flock, the politicians and the regional and national providers are the pack of wolves.

I have no sympathy for these particular sheep. But I am insured by them and I have ALWAYS paid my own premiums with after-tax dollars. And me with my monthly premiums and my insurer BCBS with my contract with them make my health-care decisions, not some "DOCTOR" on a government payroll. When THAT occurs, NONE of us will have ANY SAY WHATSOEVER in our own health care.

Its is NOT any advantage to the consumer, the patient, to remove the private insurers from the loop however evil they may be.

THEY ARE THE CHECK AND BALANCE IN THE SYSTEM. AND AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING THIS IS STILL A CAPITALIST SYSTEM.

Go to a public hospital in Great Britain or in Canada or France or RUSSIA and you'll get a good idea of where this is headed. Dirty floors, surgical implements rinsed off in cold water and reused and durt under the fingernails of the "DOCTORS" who "TREAT" you.

gunsmoke · June 08, 2009, 23:10

http://us.mobile.reuters.com/m/FullA...5570TN20090608

Link to a REUTERS article on the desperate efforts and organizing being done by Democrats and their minions to promote ObamaCare/

Radio · June 09, 2009, 16:58

I wouldn't worry. Obama will help you with lots of tin foil, so you won't run out of hats.

Hope this helps.

--Radio

gunsmoke · June 09, 2009, 20:13

As you sip your daily KOOL AID read the bill and find out the "PROMISE"" o MADE FOR CONTINUED ACCCESS TO PRIVATE HEALTH INSURENCE HAS ALREADY BEEN BROKEN. iF YOU EVEN BOTHERED TO READ THE reuters ARTICLE YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN MY TIN FOIL LUNACY QUOTED BYT O'S ORGANIZERS.

But then there are your famous KOOL AID drinking last words, "IJUST DON'T HAVE TIME."

gunsmoke · June 10, 2009, 22:58

This is an article from the Wall Street Journal. If you are interested in what the Obama Administrations strategy is regarding ObamaCare:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124467554761003983.html

gunsmoke · June 16, 2009, 20:34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ-6ebku3_E

Here is a nice little YOUTUBE vid of BHO in his own two faces explaining his strategy and some of his agents vilifying and trying to make all private insurers THE ENEMY.

Also Obama has been using hius fund-raising list and his PAC to raise mioney for the fight, that should show you how important they view the ObamaCare to their agenda.

ALSO ABC is going to do a White House INFOMERCIAL with NO OPPOSING viewpoints in SUPPORT OF OF OBAMACARE.

THEY ARE PULLING OUT ALL THE STOPS IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO WIN A PUBLIC OPTION FOR HEALTHCARE WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GO BACK!

**2barearms** · June 16, 2009, 20:56

I see a major whitewater rapid in front of the Barakula Administration.
Do you think he can serve two masters? His largest donor group by
far is the Trial Lawyers Association and the Doctors want caps on
malpractice, good luck cutting lawyers out of a paycheck. Is the plan
to have public sector doctors and private pay doctors? The California
Nurses Association has been very active here in Houston starting early
last year trying to recruit ahead of the Anointed Ones Coronation. The
unions will factor in as well. Way too many 'special' interests to make
happy.

gunsmoke · June 16, 2009, 22:32

Quote:

Originally posted by 2barearms
I see a major whitewater rapid in front of the Barakula Administration.
Do you think he can serve two masters? His largest donor group by
far is the Trial Lawyers Association and the Doctors want caps on
malpractice, good luck cutting lawyers out of a paycheck. Is the plan
to have public sector doctors and private pay doctors? The California
Nurses Association has been very active here in Houston starting early
last year trying to recruit ahead of the Anointed Ones Coronation. The
unions will factor in as well. Way too many 'special' interests to make
happy.

You're right, so watch the video and listen well to what he said, he wants a "SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM" that means NO private insurence, no medigap insurence nothing but medicare expanded to everyone.

The larger national and regional providers have been banking on this for some time and are already practicing their own system of rationing so they will be ready to get their slice of the pie.

Listen to the unions, they are vilifing the private insurers.

fixit · June 16, 2009, 23:29

Just wondering what the wait will be like when 20M+ individuals are added to the current healthcare workload without a proportional increase in healthcare personell. Like sick-call in the military...

gunsmoke · June 17, 2009, 07:45

Quote:

Originally posted by fixit
Just wondering what the wait will be like when 20M+ individuals are added to the current healthcare workload without a proportional increase in healthcare personell. Like sick-call in the military...

ASTIUTE OBSERVATION - THAT will no doubt be one of the biggest contrpl mechanisms/excuse for RATIONING which of sourse will serve as the genus of the NEXT crisis for the expansion of government authority, increased tazes and the further dimunition of vhoice and individual liberty when it comes to healthcare.

For example as in GB now a woman with Stag IV or worse Breasy Cancer gets NO treatment, she is simply allowed to die, she may still get surgery but she will not get chemo or radiation.

One of the side-effects will be the creation of a black markt in drugs and therapies and in scams and quackery to bleed the desperate and dying of their estates.

AN EXAMPLE:

http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/h.../nygrisly.html

Its not about healthcare its about control.

davedude · June 17, 2009, 10:15

Quote:

Its not about healthcare its about control.

Bingo!!!!!!!

Control of the MONEY---look who benefits from obama's legislation, any of it...it is always his buddies. Chicago style corruption gone national. Anything obama does funnels MONEY TO HIS BUDDIES who give him back the power to steal even more.

I have never seen a bigger or more dishonest criminal than barak obama in my entire life. There has never been a bigger crime that the theft of trillions of American taxpayer dollars by barak obama and the retards.

If obama does not go to jail before his first term is over I will be shocked.

Dave Dude

Manedwolf · June 17, 2009, 13:34

Quote:

Originally posted by fixit
Just wondering what the wait will be like when 20M+ individuals are added to the current healthcare workload without a proportional increase in healthcare personell. Like sick-call in the military...

Most of those in healthcare are going to leave the field, or leave the country if doctors, and set up shop in the islands. What incentive would they possibly have to remain in the industry?

gunsmoke · June 17, 2009, 21:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Manedwolf

Most of those in healthcare are going to leave the field, or leave the country if doctors, and set up shop in the islands. What incentive would they possibly have to remain in the industry?

THERE ARE ACTUALLY "doctors" who work for large national or regional providers and they ARE ON SALARY, they own NO practice of their own. They are supporting the single payer consept. It is an advantage to them. These are corporate healthcare providers. The advantage that a single payer system to them is that it eleiminates the competition from those who are in practice for themselves.

The professionals and paraprofessionals lower in the food chain, nurses therapists ENTs are going to be the first to be screwed and the worst to be screwed, the second will be individuals like me who have VERY GOOD health insurence that I pay for myself with after-tax dollar$.

We no longer get to make our own healthcare decisions between myself my insurer and my providers and shifts that decision making to bureaucrats like those in Britain who decided that a woman who has stage IV or worse breast cancer get pain and anxiety medication only, no radiation or chemo or surgery will be "wasted" on them.

GOOD LUCK ALL!

raexcct2 · June 17, 2009, 23:17

Quote:

If obama does not go to jail before his first term is over I will be shocked. Dave Dude

Dude,

He's from the Daley Chicago political machine. Only the opposition will go to jail.

Firestarter · June 19, 2009, 17:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Radio
I wouldn't worry. Obama will help you with lots of tin foil, so you won't run out of hats.

Hope this helps.

--Radio

Here is a fine example of what to expect with nationalized healthcare. One only need to look no further than the VA.

http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com...lpractice.html

And good luck suing. Obama almost showed this card in the recent speech he made to doctors...but he caught himself in time.

Hope this helps Radio, although I don't figure you to be smart enough for it to matter much.

Radio · June 19, 2009, 21:51

Obama will fix everything. We should try to appreciate what he is doing. Health care for all!!

--Radio

gunsmoke · June 20, 2009, 05:41

Quote:

Originally posted by raexcct2

Dude,

He's from the Daley Chicago political machine. Only the opposition will go to jail.

Jail is not where he is going. History tells us the fate of ALL SAVIORS.

The story is unbeleiveable unless the inevitable conclusion comes.

Deltaten · June 20, 2009, 08:55

Just an observation....

WTF is it doing in RKBA???

Is there a hidden gun control item in the reams of paperwork? Did CDC get their wish AFA having doctors enumerate yer cannons? Is a GSW now a disease?

Paul

raexcct2 · June 20, 2009, 09:01

Quote:

Jail is not where he is going. History tells us the fate of ALL SAVIORS.

I hope you are being sarcastic here since Obama is NO SAVIOUR to this country but is instead the instrument of our downfall.

Firestarter · June 20, 2009, 09:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Deltaten
Just an observation....

WTF is it doing in RKBA???

Is there a hidden gun control item in the reams of paperwork? Did CDC get their wish AFA having doctors enumerate yer cannons? Is a GSW now a disease?

Paul

My guess is the "& legal" part of this forum. It (this forum) just doesn't see many threads that don't have to do with RKBA.

I thought it odd also, until I realized that it was probably in the right place after all.

gunsmoke · June 20, 2009, 13:08

Quote:

Originally posted by Deltaten
Just an observation....

WTF is it doing in RKBA???

Is there a hidden gun control item in the reams of paperwork? Did CDC get their wish AFA having doctors enumerate yer cannons? Is a GSW now a disease?

Paul

I started this thread here ASSUMING that since my subject was the legal aspects of what is being proposed actually MATTERED (HOW MUCH OF THE OBAMA LEGISLATION HAS ACTUALLY BEEN READ BY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS?) maybe I was wrong, maybe everyone has been sipping at the koolaid and just doesn't give a shit and are content to sit back close their eyes and think of the good of society while they get screwed?

People RIGHT HERE ON THIS FORUM bitched and screamed over the Bush use of the FISA court which had been in existence since BEFORE REAGAN TOOK OFFICE but Barry O has wiped his ass 12 times a day with THE CONSTITUTION byexecutive fiat since the day he took office and no one seems upset in the least. Oh well enjoy the change and hope to live through it.

gunsmoke · June 20, 2009, 13:16

Quote:

Originally posted by raexcct2

I hope you are being sarcastic here since Obama is NO SAVIOUR to this country but is instead the instrument of our downfall.

I did NOT write the script, I just call em like I see 'em. Talk to the Chicago Machine the DEMOCRAT and REPUBLICAN leadership that selected the Nominees last year, RAHM EMMANUEL and the TelePromptR operators and most of all the MSM who cannot wait to declare him a "ROCK STAR" every time he tales a shit!

Firestarter · June 20, 2009, 22:32

gunsmoke.

Chill out.

You are among friendly people. So unless you are half baked and half cocked...chill.

You will not get your point across as you are.

Sorry for pointing this out in public.

You are spot on though bro..in many a way.

John Culver · June 24, 2009, 21:37

The UK kills 15,000 cancer patients a year, due to their social medicine, coming soon to the US

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8117561.stm

Firestarter · June 26, 2009, 19:47

Vlad Tepes the impaler once according to legend invited all the poor in his realm to an immense feast...where he poisoned them all and claimed having ended poverty in his kingdom.

Social Security is going broke..what better way to tax those that they can, and kill off the rest that don't "qualify".

The elderly, premature, and special needs will be left to die with his plan.

Baracula...

Firestarter · June 26, 2009, 23:19

It's time to write or call your congressmen.

Ask them if they will get on the public plan if it becomes law.

Seriously.

**Seaweed** · June 27, 2009, 17:27

The question for me is not whether or not we have free health care, but exactly who will be paying for it.

June 07, 2009, 13:11	#1
gunsmoke Registered FALaholic #: 14772 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: LOUISIANA Posts: 1,196	OBAMACARE-READ THE BILL! OBAMACARE-READ THE BILL! http://s7y.us/s7t __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

June 07, 2009, 15:25	#3
Radio Registered FALaholic #: 263 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 9,868	I gots better things to do. Like waiting for my Welfare check. And free health care!! __________________ Train Like You Fight: Second PLace is NOT an Option. --E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II* "You seem to fantasize about me a lot. Maybe you should tell your boyfriend? He could dress up like me or something." --*K.O.A.M.*, November 9th, 2009 "You're better off hoping she don't miss, it's quicker that way." --ce, December 15, 2009

June 07, 2009, 19:49	#4
gunsmoke Registered FALaholic #: 14772 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: LOUISIANA Posts: 1,196	NUTSHELL: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/23162.html __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

June 07, 2009, 21:53	#5
Radio Registered FALaholic #: 263 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 9,868	Read just enough to see it's the same old song. "If the vote were to be held TODAY.........." Well, it isn't. Gonna be quite some time in fact. There has been talk about ramming this through using certain Congressional rules but even those "in power" say it would be a bad idea that while "on the table" is not very likely to happen. Even those "in power" realize there has got to be some bipartisan agreement and gov't -vs- private industry agreement. What the final landscape will be is anybody's guess, but it won't be like what you posted up. --Radio __________________ Train Like You Fight: Second PLace is NOT an Option. --E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II* "You seem to fantasize about me a lot. Maybe you should tell your boyfriend? He could dress up like me or something." --*K.O.A.M.*, November 9th, 2009 "You're better off hoping she don't miss, it's quicker that way." --ce, December 15, 2009

June 07, 2009, 23:15	#6
gunsmoke Registered FALaholic #: 14772 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: LOUISIANA Posts: 1,196	Of course any word of any piece of legislation can be changed at any time. Some people are lazy can't or don't want to think for themselves. I'm not psychic nor do I claim to be, but if you want to know what the goals are they can generally be found in the original draft of the legislation. If you're not interested, don't care or want the CHRIS MATTHEWS/KEITH OLBERMANN version of the truth, that is entirely up to you! __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

June 07, 2009, 14:37	#2
garandguy10 Registered FALaholic #: 10840 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: some where Posts: 2,796	How about just the highlights [lowlights?] in a nutshell......

June 08, 2009, 10:27	#7
V guy Registered FALaholic #: 10282 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: miami Posts: 8,213	On Friday, commie Senator Bernie Sanders was interviewed by Laura Ingraham. He was shouting that there is no bill and was no bill and no bill would likely even be printed before August at the earliest. I am happy to see that you cannot trust a lying commie anytime, anyday, anywhere. The final bill wil be "speed read" and no one will ever know what is in the bill until weeks later.

June 08, 2009, 16:50	#8
Radio Registered FALaholic #: 263 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 9,868	Let's just say I'm "in the health care industry" and it is VERY likely there won't be any bill until at LEAST August. I will predict that whatever it is will not get rammed through but will have MUCH comment from MANY sources including Conservatives, drug companies and private insurers such as Humana and BCBS etc. --Radio __________________ Train Like You Fight: Second PLace is NOT an Option. --E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II* "You seem to fantasize about me a lot. Maybe you should tell your boyfriend? He could dress up like me or something." --*K.O.A.M.*, November 9th, 2009 "You're better off hoping she don't miss, it's quicker that way." --ce, December 15, 2009

June 08, 2009, 18:23	#9
gunsmoke Registered FALaholic #: 14772 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: LOUISIANA Posts: 1,196	Largely BS. The private insurers aren't going to have ANY influence whatsoever, they may have a lot to say but no one is lisenting. That is largely because of the rationing and other games they have played as an industry over the years to keep collecting premiums and avoid paying benefit. Providers and consumers have both come to see them as the enemy and just like the UNIONS vs. the automakers, nobody be cryin for no automakers. Providers with a national presence and those with a regional presence are trying at this very moment to carve up the country to get their slice of the pie and the salaried "DOCTORS" who work for them are touting LOUDLY the "BENEFITS" of a single-payer system. The game is to ELIMINATE the private insurers, not outlaw them, rather render them redundant. Like taking a fish out of water. The private insurers are the flock, the politicians and the regional and national providers are the pack of wolves. I have no sympathy for these particular sheep. But I am insured by them and I have ALWAYS paid my own premiums with after-tax dollars. And me with my monthly premiums and my insurer BCBS with my contract with them make my health-care decisions, not some "DOCTOR" on a government payroll. When THAT occurs, NONE of us will have ANY SAY WHATSOEVER in our own health care. Its is NOT any advantage to the consumer, the patient, to remove the private insurers from the loop however evil they may be. THEY ARE THE CHECK AND BALANCE IN THE SYSTEM. AND AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING THIS IS STILL A CAPITALIST SYSTEM. Go to a public hospital in Great Britain or in Canada or France or RUSSIA and you'll get a good idea of where this is headed. Dirty floors, surgical implements rinsed off in cold water and reused and durt under the fingernails of the "DOCTORS" who "TREAT" you. __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

June 08, 2009, 23:10	#10
gunsmoke Registered FALaholic #: 14772 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: LOUISIANA Posts: 1,196	http://us.mobile.reuters.com/m/FullA...5570TN20090608 Link to a REUTERS article on the desperate efforts and organizing being done by Democrats and their minions to promote ObamaCare/ __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

June 09, 2009, 16:58	#11
Radio Registered FALaholic #: 263 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 9,868	I wouldn't worry. Obama will help you with lots of tin foil, so you won't run out of hats. Hope this helps. --Radio __________________ Train Like You Fight: Second PLace is NOT an Option. --E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II* "You seem to fantasize about me a lot. Maybe you should tell your boyfriend? He could dress up like me or something." --*K.O.A.M.*, November 9th, 2009 "You're better off hoping she don't miss, it's quicker that way." --ce, December 15, 2009

June 09, 2009, 20:13	#12
gunsmoke Registered FALaholic #: 14772 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: LOUISIANA Posts: 1,196	As you sip your daily KOOL AID read the bill and find out the "PROMISE"" o MADE FOR CONTINUED ACCCESS TO PRIVATE HEALTH INSURENCE HAS ALREADY BEEN BROKEN. iF YOU EVEN BOTHERED TO READ THE reuters ARTICLE YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN MY TIN FOIL LUNACY QUOTED BYT O'S ORGANIZERS. But then there are your famous KOOL AID drinking last words, "IJUST DON'T HAVE TIME." __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

June 10, 2009, 22:58	#13
gunsmoke Registered FALaholic #: 14772 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: LOUISIANA Posts: 1,196	This is an article from the Wall Street Journal. If you are interested in what the Obama Administrations strategy is regarding ObamaCare: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124467554761003983.html __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

June 16, 2009, 20:34	#14
gunsmoke Registered FALaholic #: 14772 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: LOUISIANA Posts: 1,196	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ-6ebku3_E Here is a nice little YOUTUBE vid of BHO in his own two faces explaining his strategy and some of his agents vilifying and trying to make all private insurers THE ENEMY. Also Obama has been using hius fund-raising list and his PAC to raise mioney for the fight, that should show you how important they view the ObamaCare to their agenda. ALSO ABC is going to do a White House INFOMERCIAL with NO OPPOSING viewpoints in SUPPORT OF OF OBAMACARE. THEY ARE PULLING OUT ALL THE STOPS IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO WIN A PUBLIC OPTION FOR HEALTHCARE WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GO BACK! __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

June 16, 2009, 20:56	#15
2barearms 3 Percent Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 13866 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Houston,Texas Posts: 8,657	I see a major whitewater rapid in front of the Barakula Administration. Do you think he can serve two masters? His largest donor group by far is the Trial Lawyers Association and the Doctors want caps on malpractice, good luck cutting lawyers out of a paycheck. Is the plan to have public sector doctors and private pay doctors? The California Nurses Association has been very active here in Houston starting early last year trying to recruit ahead of the Anointed Ones Coronation. The unions will factor in as well. Way too many 'special' interests to make happy.

June 16, 2009, 23:29	#17
fixit Registered FALaholic #: 14938 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 180	Just wondering what the wait will be like when 20M+ individuals are added to the current healthcare workload without a proportional increase in healthcare personell. Like sick-call in the military...

June 19, 2009, 21:51	#24
Radio Registered FALaholic #: 263 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 9,868	Obama will fix everything. We should try to appreciate what he is doing. Health care for all!! --Radio __________________ Train Like You Fight: Second PLace is NOT an Option. --E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II* "You seem to fantasize about me a lot. Maybe you should tell your boyfriend? He could dress up like me or something." --*K.O.A.M.*, November 9th, 2009 "You're better off hoping she don't miss, it's quicker that way." --ce, December 15, 2009

June 20, 2009, 08:55	#26
Deltaten Registered FALaholic #: 124 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lancaster, PA USA Posts: 8,499	Just an observation.... WTF is it doing in RKBA??? Is there a hidden gun control item in the reams of paperwork? Did CDC get their wish AFA having doctors enumerate yer cannons? Is a GSW now a disease? Paul __________________ All or Nothing! Senator McCarthy was right! and as always......FYB!

June 20, 2009, 22:32	#31
Firestarter Registered FALaholic #: 11413 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: **** you Posts: 5,672	gunsmoke. Chill out. You are among friendly people. So unless you are half baked and half cocked...chill. You will not get your point across as you are. Sorry for pointing this out in public. You are spot on though bro..in many a way.

June 24, 2009, 21:37	#32
John Culver Registered FALaholic #: 6035 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Klamath Falls, OR Posts: 8,619	The UK kills 15,000 cancer patients a year, due to their social medicine, coming soon to the US http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8117561.stm __________________ The speculative line of demarcation, where obedience ought to end and resistance must begin, is faint, obscure, and not easily definable. --Burke. ---------------------- The CPU Shack - CPU History and Microprocessor Collection.

June 26, 2009, 19:47	#33
Firestarter Registered FALaholic #: 11413 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: **** you Posts: 5,672	Vlad Tepes the impaler once according to legend invited all the poor in his realm to an immense feast...where he poisoned them all and claimed having ended poverty in his kingdom. Social Security is going broke..what better way to tax those that they can, and kill off the rest that don't "qualify". The elderly, premature, and special needs will be left to die with his plan. Baracula...

June 26, 2009, 23:19	#34
Firestarter Registered FALaholic #: 11413 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: **** you Posts: 5,672	It's time to write or call your congressmen. Ask them if they will get on the public plan if it becomes law. Seriously.

June 27, 2009, 17:27	#35
Seaweed Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 2736 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Newport, OR Posts: 1,280	The question for me is not whether or not we have free health care, but exactly who will be paying for it.

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