Benelli Mod 1 Super 90

[Perched Eagle]

Any opinions on this one gents? Thx

[dscottch]

Love!

[moonbat60]

I've got the M3 Super 90 convertible, and I share dscottch's opinion. My Benelli is the only shotgun in my inventory.

What does that tell you ?

If there was not my M3, I'd have the M1 Super 90. It is to me the next best thing.



Pete

[Perched Eagle]

Great to hear...picked one up in trade over the holiday...anyone have a source for the speed feeder? Also, for home defense, any recommendations on good but not too expensive types of ammo? Finally, (being shotgun ignorant), I noted that it seems there is a sleeve in the barrel with notches in the end and some ribs farther on in. My assumption then is that it is set up to take a choke...is that the case and if so, any recommendations (again good ones but not too expensive)?

Thanks guys for your help,

P.E.

[thunderchicken]

I couldn't hit anything with mine. Tried all the different stock shims to no avail. I own over a 100 shotguns and it shot the worst for me. Of course if you just plan to use if for relatively stationary home defense stuff fit may not matter quite as much, but if you plan to take it wingshooting it needs to fit properly and mine just never did.

[J. Armstrong]

Love my M1S90. Dead stone reliable with any load even remotely potent enough for tactical use, although I have heard some of the "low recoil" 00 buck loads are iffy. I just use regular 00, slugs, sometimes BB or #4. No probs. The inertia action does seem to yield a sharp recoil impulse, but I haven't found it bothersome.

The choke tubes are - not surprisingly - Benelli. Don'know if they interchange with anything else. CDNN used to every now and then have them available pretty cheap.

You do need to practice with it regularly until the immediate action drills become second nature, as they are quite different than most pump or gas guns.

[dscottch]

I think benelli and beretta chokes interchange. They do on my Nova. I don't have a choked barrel on the M1S90. I have shot everything I could afford out of mine. Wallyworld stuff works just fine. Had mine since 1987 and never had any problems with it. Just shoot it and tell us what you think. I agree with thunderchicken, it probably isn't the best skeet gun in the world. But I do love taking my Nova to the skeet range and beating almost all those thousand dollar shotties.

Scott

[Rayman]

The S&B (Sellier Bellot?) 3" stuff works for me. I shoot it in my 121 also. It is a card over load so the fired hull is actually a tad shorter than the 2 3/4 folded american crimp loads. YMMV

[GTM1]

Shot everthing I fed it.
Easy to maintain.
But...I could not get it to fit me with the shimes worth a darn and two other words come to mind..."Benelli Thumb". Boy does that hurt.

GTM1

[Perched Eagle]

Benelli thumb? How does one manage that? Thankfully I never got the Garand thumb...

[GTM1]

It's when you catch your thumb between the end of the loading gate and the mag tube opening while loading.

[cwo4uscgret]

Benelli Thumb...yep that happened to me once...I also have an M3Super90...great tactical shotgun; not your typical trap gun though...

[Polar Bear 4/31]

I love mine. No problems.

[Perched Eagle]

I did have some guilty feelings after finding mine just out of its league when I saw a video about the AA-12 full auto shotgun...that thing is...well...something else...

Re: the thumb...So far I have just tried to keep the loading ramp pushed down with my off hand and slide the rounds in with the other while keeping the shotgun pinned under my off arm...got a sore thumb tip once loading my Remmy 11-48 and having it trapped for a bit...

Hope you all have a Merry Christmas!

[rocko]

I haven't gotten it done myself, but I've seen that some folks have their gate modified to close up the "fork" up front where your thumb is prone to catch. Older versions used to be able to be able to store an extra shell under the carrier, but they modified the bolt to prevent that - not quite sure if it had to do with the AWB or for hunting, but it's also a simple mod to correct on newer style bolts.

[yoda]

I've recently got a Benelli M-2, not sure how simular to your M-1 it is.

Been to the range a few times, it is awesome right out of the box.

I've heard a few myths about the reliability of the inertia system. It's shot every brand and type of ammo I've gotten my hands on so far. Quite a few of my friends have Benelli's, Nova's or M4's, haven't really heard anything bad about Benelli.

[Christian]

I have an M3 as well and like the fact that I can use any ammo in it I want. By that I mean that a lot of the regular Super 90s tend to have ejection issues due to tactial loads. The pump option makes that a non issue. But for everything else, the semi action is super smooth. I would definately recomend a Benelli to anyone looking for a semi shotgun.

[55bird]

Negative on those ejection issues.My M1S90 eats it all.This shotgun needs a thousand rounds to break in.Most never ever put a thousand thru anything for they are afraid of scratching it or such.Round off that loading gate on the receiver and round off the loading ramp end to lessen the thumb loading issue.Practice.This gun will outlast 5 other makes and is built like an industrial tool like the Fal is.Quit worshiping these weapons and run them as intended.

[Volksjaeger]

A little OT and sorry for the hijack...Is there a way to ID Benelli chokes without removing them? I just bought a M1 Super 90 made in '93...The choke has four notches and a small, single line indentation in one side that looks 'deliberate', like an ID of sorts...What type is it?

[dscottch]

Volksjaeger, here you go.

http://www.phoenixshooting.com/FAQ.p...anda1144223523

Scott

[Volksjaeger]

Thanks Scott...Can you use slugs through a full choke on an M1S90...or would that be BAD? (!)

Also, I'm not sure if they are including the 'removal tool' notches in the equation...Do I have 1 notch or 5? Sorry to over analyze things, my wife is rubbing off on me I guess (LOL)!

[dscottch]

You have one (1) notch. I researched the slug issue at Benelli a couple years ago. They only recommended cylinder for slugs. I think they say that for legal purposes. I will shoot them through improved cylinder, but that's as tight as I will go. I really don't know if full would be safe. I have shot soda cans at 120 yds with cylinder, well past any expectations i had. I have to ask you, why would you want to shoot them through a full choke? If it can be safely done, I would think it would kill any accuracy the slug has. Just wondering.

(The shooting through chokes I talked about above was with a Benelli Nova with rifle sights installed. The M1S90 has no choke.) I hope I'm helping.

Scott

[Volksjaeger]

You have one (1) notch. I researched the slug issue at Benelli a couple years ago. They only recommended cylinder for slugs. I think they say that for legal purposes. I will shoot them through improved cylinder, but that's as tight as I will go. I really don't know if full would be safe. I have shot soda cans at 120 yds with cylinder, well past any expectations i had. I have to ask you, why would you want to shoot them through a full choke? If it can be safely done, I would think it would kill any accuracy the slug has. Just wondering.

After I posted that I looked up some images and figured out the notch thing, so pardon the brain damage at the time (LOL). What confused me was the fact that it was set up as a tactical model with ghost ring sights, pistol grip, all the Mall Ninja stuff, and that sort of gun would possibly shoot slugs. I got a Hell of a deal on it, and couldn't pass it up...plus it was made in '93 and looked new. I'm new to shotguns other than a Mossberg 500, and I don't have a desire to hurt myself or the shotgun, thus the questions. Also, the Internet research I did is, of course, 50/50 on the subject of full choke and slugs *sigh*. I've found a set of appropriate cylinder bore and improved cylinder flush mount tubes for pretty reasonable and have them coming. I can only guess that the previous owner intended to ONLY shoot buckshot from this gun, or that was the way it was when it was sold off...who knows? What would be a good comprimise in tubes for shooting 00 buck and slugs? IC or cylinder bore?

Thanks for the info and putting up with a shotgun newby!!

P.S. Sorry again for the thread hijack!!!

[dscottch]

Originally posted by Volksjaeger

Thanks for the info and putting up with a shotgun newby!!

I'm glad to help. No thanks needed. I wish I could answer your question with a simple answer, unfortunately it couldn't be the right answer. The questions you have to ask yourself are:

1. What am I going to shoot with this? (Bad guys in house, deer, boar, MIL )
2. At what distance am I likely to take the shot?
3. How tight of a pattern (buck shot) or group (slugs) at those distances do you want?

Then, (this is the fun part) buy some ammo (different name brands), set up targets and start testing. Every shotgun is a little different, hence this testing. Be sure to use targets big enough to catch all pellets. Shoot with both chokes at all distances (and a little further) to pattern your gun. You'll learn what your shotty does and likes. You will improve with the training. Remember that you can have the best of both chokes, you're not limited to just one. Good luck and don't hesitate to ask if you have more questions.

Scott

[moonbat60]

Shooting slugs through a full choke barrel or a screw-in full choke is not recommended, for the full choke is the tightest " restriction " that there is.

It'll ruin the choke in no time flat, and I guess that accuracy is going to suffer. I was told and trained in the past to use slugs only in cyl. bore or imp. cyl. barrels.

Chokes are fine for all kinds of shot, but with slugs..............stay with the cylinder bore.



Pete


Btw, Benellis rock ! My M3 S90 is the only shotgun in my inventory. After I bought it and broke it in, I never felt the need to buy another shotgun.

[Skilter]

I have seen some M1S90s not cycle on some low recoil tactical loads. But this was almost always with relatively new, non broken in guns with operators that did not shoulder the weapon properly. Once it was shot in, most of the problems went away.

And, Benelli thumb sucks in 20 degree weather...

[moonbat60]

The Benellis are like a good car or motorbike. They all need to have their break-in time, period.

Afterwards they are a joy to shoot. If you buy a new Benelli, just buy a couple of cases of shotshells or slugs and run them through the gun. Clean it, lube it, and then do it all over again.

That way you'll gain 4 things :

# 1 A Benelli that is broke in.

# 2 The POA / POI experience.

# 3 Lots of target practice.

# 4 A ton of fun.

On top of it all, you'll learn to like / love your Benelli for what " she " can do.



Pete

[Ssarge]

Picked up an M2S90 at the funshow this weekend. I have owned M1S90s before and they are great shotty's! I'm looking forward to giving my new M2S90 a work out this week on the range.

[Para Driver]

love my m1s90, stone reliable...

[BroncoMafia]

M1S90 tactical.
LOVE IT!!
never failed with any ammo, even multiple brands of low recoil tactical slugs and buck, amazingly accurate.
everyone should own one.

[Ssarge]

CDNN had killer prices on tactical slugs and tactical 00 buckshot. It's all Winchester Ranger LE ammo. The 00 comes in 25 round boxes and is the low brass, low recoil type. You either have to have an ammo statement or C&R/01FFL with them to order.